No more KPs so far from me.So how is everyone getting on with KPs and the 2nd supp. update? Unfortunately I cannot comment as the update did not apply to my iMP.
No more KPs so far from me.So how is everyone getting on with KPs and the 2nd supp. update? Unfortunately I cannot comment as the update did not apply to my iMP.
So now it sounds like people are having high temperature issues...?
Supplemental update 2 didn't help me with this. When I put mine to sleep it gets maybe 20 seconds per hour of actual sleep (the LED on my CalDigit TS3+ shows when the machine is awake). And it's always warm to the touch.
It's not great.
It's not great technically at least. Winter is coming to Denmark, and the prospect of always picking up a warm laptop is actually kind of charming.
I had that same bar on two different iMacs 2010, 2011 models running El Capitan. They wouldn't reboot, jumped thru all the hoops, reformatted the drives, etc. Tried every OS I could get my hands on and nothing would ever reload. This was all last year, one more died, took em all to the boneyard. Now, Apple wants to say this is just 2018 models with T2 chips.Yeah, consider my issue "unresolved"
Thanks for conveniently quoting this lol. Part of my issue is when do I do the second steps? I think the last time, I did JUST the first steps, then at the login screen, shut down and did JUST the second steps. I get the apple logo and a loading bar that stops at ~60% and never gets further. I tried leaving it overnight last time :/
I think we're moving into hardware land here as well. None of these machines run at proper temps. Complete design flaw from Apple. Also, there is no way to check the side effects on ssd's - it's not like too much heat won't crash those as well. With all the random KP crashes, makes me start to think that overheating in general is causing random errors in the CPU, GPU and SSD's. That is my current thoughts, since all of this happened on 2010, 2011 iMacs I had. Now that those units are conveniently in the boneyard, Apple can pretend like it's bad peripherals and 3rd party plugins on just their new stuff.... not buying it.....it was last year, but one of my ssd's died from heat... that's what made me think of it, now that you guys are talking heating issues, hope that helps, I think you're on to something here.....Funny you mention 800MHz speed. The user who posted the undervoltage fix for overheating before Apple’s first fix was released noted that 800MHz is the speed the CPU gets dropped to if the VRM hits max temperature. This is why they went the route of reducing CPU voltage, in order to keep VRM temps from spiking.
That eliminates the "only T2 chip" argument; I knew this could happen on any Apple machine right now, that's why I just bought a Dell. I waited from December until August before purchasing anything to confirm that Apple has bigger issues on their hands and it wasn't an isolated incident. This growing thread is all the proof I need that moving to Windows is the only option for me. Best of luck to everyone with this. I'm going to stay on this thread. Curious if Apple is going to fix their mess and stay in the computer business....or just sell iOS products by 2020....I know this can’t be related but while my MBP 18 is fine (so far) my 2017 iMac 27” 5k (without the T2 chip) constantly crashes during sleep when connected to the Caldigit TS3 plus. Every night between 3am and 4am it seems to crash and reboot.
Crash log refers to USB controller and ISP router has literally hundreds of IP lease renewal requests, every 30 seconds or so, before the crash occurs.
The deductive leaps and seeming facts (none of these machines run at the right temps? Comparing an isolated KP issue to your ancient iMacs failing to boot?What?) you are asserting here literally don’t add up to the conclusions. I get you’re angry but right now you’re stepping into a nuanced conversation with the bluster of a Genius Bar customer who got some bad, but not abnormal news. My moms 2010 21.5” iMac is working fine.I had that same bar on two different iMacs 2010, 2011 models running El Capitan. They wouldn't reboot, jumped thru all the hoops, reformatted the drives, etc. Tried every OS I could get my hands on and nothing would ever reload. This was all last year, one more died, took em all to the boneyard. Now, Apple wants to say this is just 2018 models with T2 chips.
B.S. It's system wide, they have no clue yet. The programmers that built Sierra have destroyed MacOS, they can try and sweep it under the rug, but this one ain't going away anytime soon. Apple wouldn't even look at my older machines, isn't that convenient.... forced obsolescence, sweep it under the rug.
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I think we're moving into hardware land here as well. None of these machines run at proper temps. Complete design flaw from Apple. Also, there is no way to check the side effects on ssd's - it's not like too much heat won't crash those as well. With all the random KP crashes, makes me start to think that overheating in general is causing random errors in the CPU, GPU and SSD's. That is my current thoughts, since all of this happened on 2010, 2011 iMacs I had. Now that those units are conveniently in the boneyard, Apple can pretend like it's bad peripherals and 3rd party plugins on just their new stuff.... not buying it.....it was last year, but one of my ssd's died from heat... that's what made me think of it, now that you guys are talking heating issues, hope that helps, I think you're on to something here.....
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That eliminates the "only T2 chip" argument; I knew this could happen on any Apple machine right now, that's why I just bought a Dell. I waited from December until August before purchasing anything to confirm that Apple has bigger issues on their hands and it wasn't an isolated incident. This growing thread is all the proof I need that moving to Windows is the only option for me. Best of luck to everyone with this. I'm going to stay on this thread. Curious if Apple is going to fix their mess and stay in the computer business....or just sell iOS products by 2020....
ya, I'm running a Yosemite 2008 checking my emails on it, no problems. Let me know when your mom decides to load Logic Pro with plugins and run a session with no KP's... no offense. You weren't here, now you're the one jumping to conclusions....The deductive leaps and seeming facts (none of these machines run at the right temps? Comparing an isolated KP issue to your ancient iMacs failing to boot?What?) you are asserting here literally don’t add up to the conclusions. I get you’re angry but right now you’re stepping into a nuanced conversation with the bluster of a Genius Bar customer who got some bad, but not abnormal news. My moms 2010 21.5” iMac is working fine.
it was last year, but one of my ssd's died from heat...
I’m bout to go drop a bag on a 2018 tomorrow, crossing my fingers, wish me luck...
I’ll keep you guys posted if I run into anything
Curious if the second supplemental will be preinstalled or not
My wife’s 2.9 has been a model citizen.I’m bout to go drop a bag on a 2018 tomorrow, crossing my fingers, wish me luck...
I’ll keep you guys posted if I run into anything
Curious if the second supplemental will be preinstalled or not
I know this can’t be related but while my MBP 18 is fine (so far) my 2017 iMac 27” 5k (without the T2 chip) constantly crashes during sleep when connected to the Caldigit TS3 plus. Every night between 3am and 4am it seems to crash and reboot.
Crash log refers to USB controller and ISP router has literally hundreds of IP lease renewal requests, every 30 seconds or so, before the crash occurs.
I’m bout to go drop a bag on a 2018 tomorrow, crossing my fingers, wish me luck...
I’ll keep you guys posted if I run into anything
Curious if the second supplemental will be preinstalled or not
Damn. How can I check to see if mines the same? I woke up just after 2am and it had crashed.
I just found this on the Caldigit site - http://www.caldigit.com/kb/index.asp?KBID=228&viewlocale=1
On checking my TB3 firmware - I'm running version 30.2 - could this be the problem for some of us running Caldigit Docks?
How the heck can a brand new machine running the latest PB have an old TB3 controller firmware version?
Their support - "If any of the items above are showing older versions, you will need to update your macOS to the latest version or re-install your macOS in the event that you have the latest macOS but are still showing older Thunderbolt Firmware prior to 33.2. You will need to reset the NVRAM on your Mac before re-installing your macOS."
Is this really the only way to upgrade the firmware for TB3 controllers?
My TB3 firmware says 33.1 so that might explain some of the issues
Sorry meant to say that was the iMacIs that on an iMac or a MacBook Pro?
Damn. How can I check to see if mines the same? I woke up just after 2am and it had crashed.
I just found this on the Caldigit site - http://www.caldigit.com/kb/index.asp?KBID=228&viewlocale=1
On checking my TB3 firmware - I'm running version 30.2 - could this be the problem for some of us running Caldigit Docks?
How the heck can a brand new machine running the latest PB have an old TB3 controller firmware version?
Their support - "If any of the items above are showing older versions, you will need to update your macOS to the latest version or re-install your macOS in the event that you have the latest macOS but are still showing older Thunderbolt Firmware prior to 33.2. You will need to reset the NVRAM on your Mac before re-installing your macOS."
Is this really the only way to upgrade the firmware for TB3 controllers?