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slplss

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I just got my 12.9 and i was VERRY worried about this thing before getting it.
However..... The screen is ****ing awesome.
Watching youtube LG OLED test. O_O <- My reaction.

To the blooming issue:

I tested with blackout curtains in pitch black room and with 100% brightness you can see the bloom for sure.
To my eyes, my 11 pro max also has bloom in pitch black room at 100% brightness.

Camera makes it worse, wayyy worse. Off angle you can see the bloom more clearly and with with text there is bloom. But here's the catch.

Lowered the brightness to <50% and boom, no bloom or minimal blooming.
I suggest you to watch this tonight in complete darkness, you will be floored by how bright can XDR get.
 

PBG4 Dude

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in my pic you can see ghosting because it is a photo of video in motion. It’s actually a Live Photo too so I can move through frames. If it were blooming then it would 1. Not be yellow, 2. Not be sharp Edged, it would be like light bloom. Pmsl

heres another shot, room is lighter this time.
View attachment 1780425
Just stumbled onto Ryan George recently and this short killed me

 
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LFC2020

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Light bleed, yellow tint, blooming, shadows.

No light bleed, fake news, no yellow tint, more fake news, no blooming, even more fake news, shadows, way overblown haven’t noticed them again since someone mentioned them on here.
 

Super Xander

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I just got my 12.9 and i was VERRY worried about this thing before getting it.
However..... The screen is ****ing awesome.
Watching youtube LG OLED test. O_O <- My reaction.

To the blooming issue:

I tested with blackout curtains in pitch black room and with 100% brightness you can see the bloom for sure.
To my eyes, my 11 pro max also has bloom in pitch black room at 100% brightness.

Camera makes it worse, wayyy worse. Off angle you can see the bloom more clearly and with with text there is bloom. But here's the catch.

Lowered the brightness to <50% and boom, no bloom or minimal blooming.
This is the way I would describe the blooming as well. Neutral comment compared to a lot of other ones in the forum.
 

slplss

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Yes this is the exact video I showed my other half when I switched on the 12.9

Lets just say, I had to scoop her chin off the floor….

the picture quality was just outstanding!
Yeah it was like real stage lights were shining right at your face, with the rest of the screen staying dim. I’ve never seen anything like that on a screen. Wish there was more HDR content like that, the ”LG 2020 OLED” video wasn’t nearly as impressive, and it’s hard to find TV Show/movie that would fully utilise XDR capabilities. But that’s all just the icing on the cake for me, I was only in need of a new iPad, after all those (9) years, and I couldn’t be happier with what I got.
 
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HerbertDerb

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Screen shadow is similar to eye floaters - you notice them only if you want to (sorry for ruining your vision for today, everyone).
I have been toying wit this device for few hours now. Exactly this.
It's the same with blooming. If you WANT to see it, you will see it 100%.

In my main monitor there is a tiny tiny small scratch in the bottom of the screen. In white background you can see it if you look for it. 99% time i don't even see it and compared to the shadow blooming issue it's waaaaay worse.

Imo it was the same on normal IPS. ether there is IPS glow or backlight bleed and you have to go through same swapping prosess over and over and over again. To me, this situation is preferable. My OCD is in rest when i know swapping it wont make tiny bit of difference and same "issues" are in 5000-6000€ pro screen.

It's basically this: If you don't have any other "issues" that small uniform shadows or small glow when you search for it. That's it, there is no "better unit" available.

Or yeah, there might be in 2-3 years when Apple switches to Micro-led.

To me, this is better screen than OLED. And it's step forward in progress compared to that.
 
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LFC2020

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Yeah it was like real stage lights were shining right at your face, with the rest of the screen staying dim. I’ve never seen anything like that on a screen. Wish there was more HDR content like that, the ”LG 2020 OLED” video wasn’t nearly as impressive, and it’s hard to find TV Show/movie that would fully utilise XDR capabilities. But that’s all just the icing on the cake for me, I was only in need of a new iPad, after all those (9) years, and I couldn’t be happier with what I got.
Think you’re happy now, wait till we’re forking out the big bucks for micro led iPads ?‍♂️?? can see myself keeping this mini led iPad for 5 years ? who am I kidding ?
 

LFC2020

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I have been toying wit this device for few hours now. Exactly this.
It's the same with blooming. If you WANT to see it, you will see it 100%.

In my main monitor there is a tiny tiny small scratch in the bottom of the screen. In white background you can see it if you look for it. 99% time i don't even see it and compared to the shadow blooming issue it's waaaaay worse.

Imo it was the same on normal IPS. ether there is IPS glow or backlight bleed and you have to go through same swapping prosess over and over and over again. To me, this situation is preferable. My OCD is in rest when i know swapping it wont make tiny bit of difference and same "issues" are in 5000-6000€ pro screen.

It's basically this: If you don't have any other "issues" that small uniform shadows or small glow when you search for it. That's it, there is no "better unit" available.

Or yeah, there might be in 2-3 years when Apple switches to Micro-led.
I’ve got my oled TV set to vivid mode, because lg can’t calibrate their TVs and neither can I ? it’s the only mode I like, since it’s on vivid mode I can easily see blooming because it’s so bright, been using my mini led iPad for the last 5 hours in dark mode at 30-40% brightness not seeing any blooming, you’ll see blooming on any display tech at high level brightness.
 

slplss

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Think you’re happy now, wait till we’re forking out the big bucks for micro led iPads ?‍♂️?? can see myself keeping this mini led iPad for 5 years ? who am I kidding ?
I will 100% upgrade to microLED when the time comes, miniLED XDR will replace the poor Galaxy Tab S5e my family has to share now. Inject those microLEDs into my eyes, Apple!
 
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HerbertDerb

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I’ve got my oled TV set to vivid mode, because lg can’t calibrate their TVs and neither can I ? it’s the only mode I like, since it’s on vivid mode I can easily see blooming because it’s so bright, been using my mini led iPad for the last 5 hours in dark mode at 30-40% brightness not seeing any blooming, you’ll see blooming on any display tech at high level brightness.
Last night i tried to game on my 11 pro max at 100% brightness in pitch black room.
A) it's bright as F
B) It didn't have blooming, it's and OLED. But to my eyes it did seem like it.
 
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off3nc3

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Alright so my ipad pro 12.9 just arrived , way late so I gotta post my 2cents before I take my leave. First thing I did after restoring my backup was booting Netflix at 100% brightness , no bloom also nothing around the UI elements either. Did the same on notes , dark settings menu , the darkest webpages with white text I could find no bloom , nothing at all compared to what I have seen on this forum or reddit.

My room is almost always pretty dark but for the last test I shut down my pc's / monitors , closed the drapes completely dark room I started noticing the bloom around the netflix UI elements and on notes dark mode elements at 50% brightness and at 100% brightness just about the same but still minimal as heck nothing alike you see in these pictures circulating.

The shadowy effect around the edges is extremely minor even if you focus on it 2 inches from your nose you can barely spot it, it's insane how exaggerated this issue was.

All in all you will never have this problem with seeing any blooming ( if you want to call it that ) unless you operate in blind darkness 24/7 and you are the biggest nitpicker in the galaxy.

That being said i'll see you gents when the iphone 13 gets a release date. Cheerio
 

Faelan

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Screen shadow is similar to eye floaters - you notice them only if you want to (sorry for ruining your vision for today, everyone).
That is unfortunately not true for everybody. I try to live with it as best as I can because there’s not much of a choice, but when your floaters are big enough to cover whole words or in some cases short sentences on a written page and you can easily count 10+ of those stringy semi-translucent web-like abominations just hovering in your field of view, it’s kinda hard to ignore. I could go on and describe how some of my floater experiences when going outside feel like being in a Stephen King novel because they’re not all innocent looking tiny black dots, but I think I got my point across. As I said, you learn to cope as best as you can, but the only time I am able to truly ignore them is when I’m having a really good time and completely absorbed by something awesome.
 

Slartibart

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That is unfortunately not true for everybody. I try to live with it as best as I can because there’s not much of a choice, but when your floaters are big enough to cover whole words or in some cases short sentences on a written page and you can easily count 10+ of those stringy semi-translucent web-like abominations just hovering in your field of view, it’s kinda hard to ignore. I could go on and describe how some of my floater experiences when going outside feel like being in a Stephen King novel because they’re not all innocent looking tiny black dots, but I think I got my point across. As I said, you learn to cope as best as you can, but the only time I am able to truly ignore them is when I’m having a really good time and completely absorbed by something awesome.
You should visit an ophthalmologist or make an appointment for an eye exam - this sounds more like a developing cataract. Most cataracts develop slowly and don't disturb your eyesight early on. But with time, cataracts will eventually interfere with your vision.
 
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Macalway

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I have been toying wit this device for few hours now. Exactly this.
It's the same with blooming. If you WANT to see it, you will see it 100%.
I agree with this. It's a perception thing. You choose to fret and worry. It's a choice. And with this stuff, it must be very disturbing considering the imperfections that are everywhere.
 
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Faelan

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You should visit an ophthalmologist or make an appointment for an eye exam - this sounds more like a developing cataract. Most cataracts develop slowly and don't disturb your eyesight early on. But with time, cataracts will eventually interfere with your vision.
I have. I even went to see one of the experts in treating floaters in my country (I tell you, there aren’t many). The problem is that I’m very near-sighted and my pupils rarely dilate on their own (most likely due to medicine and other medical conditions), so they’re basically being magnified. I was told that laser treatment is an option, but it may not really work for me because it mostly just blasts bigger ones into many smaller ones. Over time they may get entangled and form bigger blobs. That’s when the laser treatment becomes an option. For now, the best technique when one enters my focal point, is to just flick my eyes left-right or up-down and watch the snow globe effect for a second and hope none of them lands right in my focal point once things settle. It usually works.
 
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Slartibart

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I have. I even went to see one of the experts in treating floaters in my country (I tell you, there aren’t many). The problem is that I’m very near-sighted and my pupils rarely dilate on their own (most likely due to medicine and other medical conditions), so they’re basically being magnified. I was told that laser treatment is an option, but it may not really work for me because it mostly just blasts bigger ones into many smaller ones. Over time they may get entangled and form bigger blobs. That’s when the laser treatment becomes an option. For now, the best technique when one enters my focal point, is to just flick my eyes left-right or up-down and watch the snow globe effect for a second and hope none of them lands right in my focal point once things settle. It usually works.
It’s difficult without a full anamnesis, but the suggested LASIK treatment solves probably your myopia (changing basically the curvature of the cornea) - but not what often is called “floaters” or “clouds”. That’s commonly affecting the lense (there is an age related haze/change of opacity occurring in the lense of the human eye which none of us can avoid).
But there are also other conditions which have an impact) or sometimes the vitreous. (Of course there are some other things which might result in the visual impression of something floating in your visual field (and where laser treatment can facilitate certain symptoms e.g. re”tacking” a partly detached retina).

Enough of the little excursion into vision science ? - any ophthalmologist should be able to check that quick and easily. .
 

stevocg13

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Mar 2, 2021
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Much better, happy camper :)
Happy to hear! Would you mind elaborating on the differences between the two units? Was it just that the first one had the yellow tint and the new one doesn't? Also, did you/do you see blooming at maximum brightness?
 

colinw123

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Jan 21, 2013
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Regarding the shadow I saw it as soon as I turned it on and then found there was a topic on it here. I can’t really unsee it and seem to keep focusing on the right had side more than any other side. To me the left side is not as noticeable, but this might be the placebo effect lol. I can even see it when watching YouTube videos in full screen.
Will see if I can tolerate it over time.
 

leebroath

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Happy to hear! Would you mind elaborating on the differences between the two units? Was it just that the first one had the yellow tint and the new one doesn't? Also, did you/do you see blooming at maximum brightness?
1/ No yellow tint
2/ Battery seems to be better

haven’t checked the blooming but do notice the shadowing, which I can only see if I go looking for it, it doesn’t bother me.
 

scupking

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I have. I even went to see one of the experts in treating floaters in my country (I tell you, there aren’t many). The problem is that I’m very near-sighted and my pupils rarely dilate on their own (most likely due to medicine and other medical conditions), so they’re basically being magnified. I was told that laser treatment is an option, but it may not really work for me because it mostly just blasts bigger ones into many smaller ones. Over time they may get entangled and form bigger blobs. That’s when the laser treatment becomes an option. For now, the best technique when one enters my focal point, is to just flick my eyes left-right or up-down and watch the snow globe effect for a second and hope none of them lands right in my focal point once things settle. It usually works.
I have had floaters for ten years. They are so annoying…. I just wish they would go away….
 
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