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The popular Anker 30W wall charger just became unavailable:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y427WT7/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I17UOACE3P3PN6&colid=3S5TFB4HJVZ4D

Is Anker doing some upgrading to this product?

Also, how about the 30W wall charger in this bundle?:
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerC...=UTF8&qid=1510486210&sr=8-3&keywords=26800+pd
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Hey guys, got a 2nd charger for my iPhone 8, and can confirm with iPad pro 10.5" this charger plus apple cable will charge at 30w!
Charged my iPad and registered 33w from my power meter at 36% dropping to 21 after 50%
iClever Portable USB Type-C 30W Wall Charger with Power Delivery Adapter for Apple Macbook 12" 2015 (Not 2016), Galaxy Note 6, Nexus 5X/6P, HTC 10, LG https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZLUIK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_1mytA8NJ3KuBT

Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you buy the charger in the link or the "newer model" which is $4 more?
 
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I like Anker brand, my iPad 10.5 charges very slow, so I need a fast charger just can’t bring myself to spend $50 on the Apple brand charger...then more money on the usb c to lightning cable.

What’s the best setup right now? Since Anker looks like not to have a charger available.
 
Now testing Apple's charger with Lightning AV Adapter. I discharged the iPad entirely with GFX Bench before letting it charge while letting its screen be on.

Here's my preliminary data:
0% @ 0 minutes
10% @ 30 minutes
20% @ 60 minutes
28% @ 90 minutes
38% @ 120 minutes

I stopped the experiment at this point of time seeing that it is clear that the quick charge will not work over the Lightning AV adapter. I swapped back to the USB 3 CCK and here are the results:
38% @ 0 minutes
55% @ 60 minutes
73% @ 90 minutes
91% @ 120 minutes
100% @ 150 minutes
 
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I stopped the experiment at this point of time seeing that it is clear that the quick charge will not work over the Lightning AV adapter

I saw it mentioned in another thread that quick charging with USB-C PD actually uses all 16 contacts in the lightning connector (8 on each side). Until now only one side’s worth of pins were active, so a lot of older accessories only pass through 8 conductors. These will not work with the new USB-C PD
 
I saw it mentioned in another thread that quick charging with USB-C PD actually uses all 16 contacts in the lightning connector (8 on each side). Until now only one side’s worth of pins were active, so a lot of older accessories only pass through 8 conductors. These will not work with the new USB-C PD

This makes sense seeing that the USB 3 CCK was released shortly after the iPad Pro 1st Gen while the Lightning AV Adapter came way before that

I wonder if a new version of the Lightning AV adapter that can handle 4K and USB-C PD will be released but I will not hold my breath
 
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(10/8/2017) tldr; Chart of % gain over minutes for the Anker 30W charger described below, in case you just want to verify that your charger is charging at full speed.

View attachment 724470

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Original post follows:

I finally managed to get my hands on both the 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9" and the new iPad Pro 10.5", and I figured I'd run some tests on how they perform, both on the original Apple 29W USB-C to Lightning adapter, as well as some third party adapters.

I originally reviewed Anker's original 60W USB-C adapter, which reportedly supplies 29W of power to the 12" MacBook. Unfortunately it wasn't able to fast charge the iPad Pro.

With the new iPad Pros and the passage of time, I hoped that the situation would improve on both sides - Apple and 3rd Party adapters - so that 29W charging would be feasible without having to spend so much on Apple's 29W adapter. I did a quick search on Amazon, and I found 2 that looked promising:
The Aukey is cheaper and comes with an odd USB-C to 2 USB-A adapter, whereas the Anker has a more straightforward design.

Here are the electrical specifications:

Aukey

View attachment 704986

5V x 3A, 9V x 3A, 14.5V x 2A

Anker

View attachment 704987

5V x 3A, 9V x 3A, 15V x 2A, 20V x 1.5A

Apple (reference)

View attachment 704988


5.2V x 2.4A, 14.5V x 2A

The Anker is a little heavier, but seems better built, and also has the additional 20V output which would be suitable for MacBook Pros.
  • Battery Drain Methodology: I downloaded GFX Metal Bench and used the Battery loop test. I'm not sure if there's another tool that has a better way of draining the battery.
  • Power Drain Meter: I used the Zhurui PR10-E US15A. It seems to have a good review.
  • Cable used: Apple's official USB-C to Lightning cable, 1m
Here are the results of the testing:

iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 2

Battery Level: ~33%

View attachment 704991

All 3 seem to charge at 29W!

iPad Pro 10.5"

Battery Level: ~34%

View attachment 704992

Again, all 3 seem to charge at 29W, although it seems to be slightly lesser for the 10.5" iPad Pro.

Overall, I think this is good news! It looks like either the USB PD circuitry in the new iPad Pros or the 3rd party adapters are now in sync.

If you're deciding on which one to buy, the Aukey seems like a good option if you're on a budget. It's also lighter and has the option to convert to 2 USB-A ports, although that seems like a gimmick.

The Anker seems better built, and I suspect that the 20V output can be useful if you want to use it to charge the latest USB-C MacBook Pros.

Either way, I think it can be safely said that we no longer have to rely on the Apple 29W USB-C adapter to charge at full speed.

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Data points / Special Note regarding 10.5"

@BeatCrazy has actually already tested the 10.5", but his results were different in that he got a reading of only 18W - ref https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/10-5-ipad-pro-fast-charging.2050391/page-3#post-24713109

I have done some quick tracking of the charging progression and here are some data points:
  • 0 mins - 35%, draw 30W
  • 10 mins - 46%, draw 30W, gain/min = 1.1% / min
  • 21 mins - 57%, draw 22W
  • 33 mins - 67%, draw 22W, gain/min = 0.83% / min
  • 40 mins - 72%, draw 18W
  • 48 mins - 77% draw 18W
It looks like the 10.5" iPad Pro switches to a lower charging rate (probably 9V/2A or 18W) once it goes past 50%. It seems to drop again after 70% to maybe 15W.

Follow up data points:
  • 0 mins - 78%, draw 18W
  • 6 mins - 82%, draw 22W (outlier?)
  • 31 mins - 93%, draw 7W
  • 47 mins - 96%, draw 3.8W
Once the iPad charge goes beyond 90%, the charging speed drops drastically.


Hello!

I found a Tronsmart wall charger with this speficiation:
USB C port output:3.6V-6.5V/3.0A,6.5V-9V/2.0A,9V-12V/1.5A(MAX)

Will it fast charge my iPad Pro 12.9 like the Apple 29w charger?
 
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Heads up! You can get a RAVPower 26800mAh USB-C PD Power Bank + Free USB-C charger for $56 before taxes on Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LRQDAEI/ - not sure how long it'll last.

(Remember to add the promotion that adds the charger)

EDIT: Nevermind, read the fine print, the "free charger" doesn't support the USB-C to Lightning cable. Weird...

However that power bank itself does fast charge and iPad Pro. A helpful person confirmed it for me on another thread with a pic of the voltmeter to confirm.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...r-ipad-pro-fast-charge.2081529/#post-25317297
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Glad it’s working for you too. I checked and mine’s running iOS 11.0.2. Just tried plugging an iPhone and iPad in to two of the USB-A ports along with my 1st gen 12.9” iPad Pro and it still draws 15.1V/1.9A from the USB-C port. See pic - taken before I plugged in the second USB-A cable but still the same.

View attachment 730223


Yes, that’s the one :)

This seems great but it still says

“To ensure best performance, we strongly recommend charging your iPhone and iPad (including iPad Pro) via the PowerIQ ports.”

Not sure why the warning “strongly recommend”. Makes me a bit nervous about plugging in an £800 IPad
 
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This seems great but it still says

“To ensure best performance, we strongly recommend charging your iPhone and iPad (including iPad Pro) via the PowerIQ ports.”

Not sure why the warning “strongly recommend”. Makes me a bit nervous about plugging in an £800 IPad

Yes not sure why it says that, maybe a left over from when the Anker didn’t properly negotiate Power Delivery with Apple’s USB-C/Lightning cable and hence was stuck at 5V?

I’ve had no issues (so far!) with either my iPad Pros (12.9 1st Gen/10.5), or iPhone X. The iPads negotiate PD at 15V while the iPhone prefers 9V with the Anker but still does 14.5V with the Apple 29W.
 
(10/8/2017) tldr; Chart of % gain over minutes for the Anker 30W charger described below, in case you just want to verify that your charger is charging at full speed.

View attachment 724470

---

Original post follows:

I finally managed to get my hands on both the 2nd gen iPad Pro 12.9" and the new iPad Pro 10.5", and I figured I'd run some tests on how they perform, both on the original Apple 29W USB-C to Lightning adapter, as well as some third party adapters.

I originally reviewed Anker's original 60W USB-C adapter, which reportedly supplies 29W of power to the 12" MacBook. Unfortunately it wasn't able to fast charge the iPad Pro.

With the new iPad Pros and the passage of time, I hoped that the situation would improve on both sides - Apple and 3rd Party adapters - so that 29W charging would be feasible without having to spend so much on Apple's 29W adapter. I did a quick search on Amazon, and I found 2 that looked promising:
The Aukey is cheaper and comes with an odd USB-C to 2 USB-A adapter, whereas the Anker has a more straightforward design.

Here are the electrical specifications:

Aukey

View attachment 704986

5V x 3A, 9V x 3A, 14.5V x 2A

Anker

View attachment 704987

5V x 3A, 9V x 3A, 15V x 2A, 20V x 1.5A

Apple (reference)

View attachment 704988


5.2V x 2.4A, 14.5V x 2A

The Anker is a little heavier, but seems better built, and also has the additional 20V output which would be suitable for MacBook Pros.
  • Battery Drain Methodology: I downloaded GFX Metal Bench and used the Battery loop test. I'm not sure if there's another tool that has a better way of draining the battery.
  • Power Drain Meter: I used the Zhurui PR10-E US15A. It seems to have a good review.
  • Cable used: Apple's official USB-C to Lightning cable, 1m
Here are the results of the testing:

iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 2

Battery Level: ~33%

View attachment 704991

All 3 seem to charge at 29W!

iPad Pro 10.5"

Battery Level: ~34%

View attachment 704992

Again, all 3 seem to charge at 29W, although it seems to be slightly lesser for the 10.5" iPad Pro.

Overall, I think this is good news! It looks like either the USB PD circuitry in the new iPad Pros or the 3rd party adapters are now in sync.

If you're deciding on which one to buy, the Aukey seems like a good option if you're on a budget. It's also lighter and has the option to convert to 2 USB-A ports, although that seems like a gimmick.

The Anker seems better built, and I suspect that the 20V output can be useful if you want to use it to charge the latest USB-C MacBook Pros.

Either way, I think it can be safely said that we no longer have to rely on the Apple 29W USB-C adapter to charge at full speed.

---

Data points / Special Note regarding 10.5"

@BeatCrazy has actually already tested the 10.5", but his results were different in that he got a reading of only 18W - ref https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/10-5-ipad-pro-fast-charging.2050391/page-3#post-24713109

I have done some quick tracking of the charging progression and here are some data points:
  • 0 mins - 35%, draw 30W
  • 10 mins - 46%, draw 30W, gain/min = 1.1% / min
  • 21 mins - 57%, draw 22W
  • 33 mins - 67%, draw 22W, gain/min = 0.83% / min
  • 40 mins - 72%, draw 18W
  • 48 mins - 77% draw 18W
It looks like the 10.5" iPad Pro switches to a lower charging rate (probably 9V/2A or 18W) once it goes past 50%. It seems to drop again after 70% to maybe 15W.

Follow up data points:
  • 0 mins - 78%, draw 18W
  • 6 mins - 82%, draw 22W (outlier?)
  • 31 mins - 93%, draw 7W
  • 47 mins - 96%, draw 3.8W
Once the iPad charge goes beyond 90%, the charging speed drops drastically.


It seems like a USBc multimeter might be a good investment as the future is USBc. Just to check batteries and chargers before using them. Do you think a basic one like this that shows current and voltage only is sufficient to make sure chargers/batteries are providing correct and safe power delivery? (I have seen various videos using the Satechi one, never seen the plugable one before. Although it is a bit cheaper).

Satechi USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_9GndAbGVZ6AG4

Plugable USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plugable-A...d=1510793290&sr=1-1&keywords=usbc+power+meter
 
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It seems like a USBc multimeter might be a good investment as the future is USBc. Just to check batteries and chargers before using them. Do you think a basic one like this that shows current and voltage only is sufficient to make sure chargers/batteries are providing correct and safe power delivery? (I have seen various videos using the Satechi one, never seen the plugable one before. Although it is a bit cheaper).

Satechi USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_9GndAbGVZ6AG4

Plugable USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Plugable-A...d=1510793290&sr=1-1&keywords=usbc+power+meter
A basic one will show you voltage and current but not other characteristics such as noise, ripple, sag, etc, or how safely isolated the high and low voltage side of an AC charger is designed. It’s sufficient for checking that PD voltage/current is negotiated properly but not necessarily the quality of the charger itself.

Hence for USB-C PD I’d stick to well known brands.

Those two in-line power meters you mentioned use the same chip so are functionally equivalent. The main difference will be physical design and robustness. I bought the Satechi because of its additional mAh reading but the way it’s implemented is useless if voltage is stepping up/down during the charge cycle... needs Wh to be useful.
 
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Hey guys, got a 2nd charger for my iPhone 8, and can confirm with iPad pro 10.5" this charger plus apple cable will charge at 30w!
Charged my iPad and registered 33w from my power meter at 36% dropping to 21 after 50%
iClever Portable USB Type-C 30W Wall Charger with Power Delivery Adapter for Apple Macbook 12" 2015 (Not 2016), Galaxy Note 6, Nexus 5X/6P, HTC 10, LG https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CZLUIK8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_1mytA8NJ3KuBT
A lot of reviews under this product are saying that it will not fast charge (at 30W) for any Ipad Pro. Do you have a more detailed record of the wattage and charging time?

Thanks!
 
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Heads up, the ZeroLemon charger mentioned earlier is not available on Amazon for now, you will want to consider other models

I didn't manage to order it unfortunately
 
Both the RAV power 26800 PD battery and the Anker 4xusbA 2.4A 1xUSBC PD@30w wall adapter were on lightning deals today on amazon for £10 off in the UK. Both of these have been confirmed as working with the Ipad Pro for fast charge (for the Anker only the latest version works, they did a silent update so hopefully they are selling the latest ones).

This usually means they will be on lightning deals again over the weekend or on cyber monday.
[doublepost=1511558248][/doublepost]Turns out they are still on sale for 2 more hours

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Prem...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=VST2RXMMRP5DW0AX7D6J

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delivery-R...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=VST2RXMMRP5DW0AX7D6J
 
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Is there already a 3rd party USB-C lightning cable out there which works as good as the original one?
 
Glad it’s working for you too. I checked and mine’s running iOS 11.0.2. Just tried plugging an iPhone and iPad in to two of the USB-A ports along with my 1st gen 12.9” iPad Pro and it still draws 15.1V/1.9A from the USB-C port. See pic - taken before I plugged in the second USB-A cable but still the same.

Despite being an old post, thanks for this update. I’m ordering one now since I still want a nice travel charger that has a PD port. The last one I got only kinda works.

Looking over the manual, it looks like 30W goes to the 5 USB-A ports, and 30W goes to the PD USB-C port. So it should be fine charging on all the ports. The ZeroLemon model can push more wattage over PD, but if you aren’t traveling with a laptop, the 60W PD port is going to waste.
 
Just got my Anker Charger with
4x USB-A
1x USB-C PD

I can confirm the versions being sold on amazon uk now charge the IpadPro 10.5 on a fast charge verified by my USB-C power meter (with all the uncertainty with USB PD I figured the only way to be sure was to buy a meter).

It is reading 1.96A @ 15.1V

Roughly 1% per minute increase while also watching Netflix.

I also tested the USB-A ports which seem to deliver a better USB-A charge than the Apple charger that comes with the IPad (or at least as good as the difference may be within a reasonable margin for error)

Apple Charger
2.16A @ 4.87
Anker Charger
2.19A @ 4.94v

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Prem...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=VST2RXMMRP5DW0AX7D6J

Super happy as I really wanted a single charger to do it all. Was disappointed when the earlier versions of these units didn't work with the IPad Pro for fast charge. Its strange even though the new units being sold now work to fast charge the IPad Pro via USB-C, they still list that the IPad Pro is best charged via its USB-A ports.
 
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