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Seems regarding Android everyone is hung up on Samsung. Bixby button's annoying etc. There are lots of Android devices. Samsung not the end all solution. Would be my last choice, or just stick with iPhone. Samsung can't even wake the assistant from sleep with a voice request. That's a big lose.
Truth is there is no end all device. Everyone has their own thing.
 

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Truth is there is no end all device. Everyone has their own thing.
Agreed. Samsung hype is over rated. Their marketing Dept rocks tho. And everyone can take full advantage of all the various choices. One size does not fit all, but their certainly a size for each one's needs totally.
 

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Seems regarding Android everyone is hung up on Samsung. Bixby button's annoying etc. There are lots of Android devices. Samsung not the end all solution. Would be my last choice, or just stick with iPhone.
Not sure how you got to that conclusion. There's plenty of Android users who prefer the vanilla experience with devices like the Pixel or prefer using devices from those outside of Samsung. Also, not sure if you noticed, but Apple have made the power button on the iPhone X also act as a button to activate Siri if you hold it down.

Samsung can't even wake the assistant from sleep with a voice request. That's a big lose.
You can activate Bixby or Google Now while it's sleep by saying "Hey Bixby" or "OK Google".
 

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Do you use all the stock Apple apps? Looking at my iPhone and iPad Pro, I don’t use a single apple app except iMessage. Chrome, Outlook, Gboard, Pocketcasts, Spotify, Wunderlist, etc.

I’d be curious to know how many iPhone users continue to use Apple apps or if they switch to something else?
I may be boring, but I keep my 7 Plus light on apps, usually only the the apps I use A LOT (otherwise I delete apps and download when I need them) and I usually try to use only Apple's apps or apps that are highly rated or recommended either by Apple or users on the App Store. I have found since switching from Andorid back in 2011, where I used to customize everything down to the text message bubbles for each conversation, that keeping things as close to stock iOS and apple apps and staying lean on apps, my phones never have had issues, always run incredibly smooth. To each their own, like all things, but simple is better most of the time and when technology comes together and just works, it's hard to beat that.

At this point, my wife and I have iPhone 7 Plus, 12.9" and 10.5" iPad Pros, Apple Watches, and a MacBook Pro plus Apple TV. It would be very painful to switch to another brand. We are quite happy in the iOS/Apple ecosystem any way.

On sort of a separate note, I don't understand all of the people who complain about Apple not innovating or that the new iPhones aren't different enough etc. I believe we are at a point (and probably have been since the iPhone 5S) of diminishing returns. How much faster does a phone need to be year to year over the iPhone 7 Plus? How many new additional features do phones need to have on them? Functional and safe Face ID may be a game changer, but nothing about the latest flagship smartphones do much of anything all that better than the iPhone 5S truth be told.
 

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But to be fair the Apple hype is overrated and their marketing department rocks. See it goes both ways.
Absolutely.
Not sure how you got to that conclusion. There's plenty of Android users who prefer the vanilla experience with devices like the Pixel or prefer using devices from those outside of Samsung. Also, not sure if you noticed, but Apple have made the power button on the iPhone X also act as a button to activate Siri if you hold it down.


You can activate Bixby or Google Now while it's sleep by saying "Hey Bixby" or "OK Google".
My point was the vanilla experience on Android still allows for full control of widget installations and icon placement while remaining bare bones vanilla if that's what the user wants.
If the assistant wakes up on a Samsung device that is asleep then that is a new thing and I stand corrected. Bixby is brand new. But the assistant last I heard wasn't wakable except on pure Google devices, pixels etc or an LG, not sure which one.
I really appreciate being able to ask Siri to do something without having to touch the phone. Apple has this down. Didn't think I'd care that much but it has become much appreciated in my daily routines. This feature will be a requirement on my next Android.
 
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If the assistant wakes up on a Samsung device that is asleep then that is a new thing and I stand corrected. Bixby is brand new. But the assistant last I heard wasn't wakable except on pure Google devices, pixels etc or an LG, not sure which one.
I really appreciate being able to ask Siri to do something without having to touch the phone. Apple has this down. Didn't think I'd care that much but it has become much appreciated in my daily routines. This feature will be a requirement on my next Android.
I don't have a Note 8 or S8, but going by what I've read, Bixby can be summoned without touching it and so can Google Now on those devices. Also worth noting is that Bixby isn't as bad as it sounds, but if you want the best Google Now is hands down the best of the three. If Siri works for your daily routine that's great, but for me personally, it's still got a lot of catching up to do with Google's voice assistant.

Also, Bixby is pretty bad-ass when it comes to a rap battle :)

 
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For me, one of the great things about the iOS ecosystem is that everything just flat works. I can pick up my phone or iPP or go to the MBPS and everything just works, first time, every time and work perfectly together. I don't need to stop and think oh wait the phone I was just using had touchwiz and this tablet in my hands has Mui. I can't do it this way with mui, I have to pull from top then slide to the right. :p


This is EXACTLY why i switched from android years ago. I just got so tired of flashing roms, updating, etc, and then one day i went to make a call and the call app froze. Right then i said, I JUST WANT IT TO WORK!! ARGGHH!! Then i realized i only really used the web and text messages and phone, not the more complicated technical stuff the samsung could do. So i switched.

Plus at that time, and really i think still, IOS and iPhones respond to touch much more crisply than Android. I remember thinking "boy the iPhone really responds to my touch with no delay." I remember switching pages on android and having a 1/4 or 1/2 second delay. Not sure how it is now but i hear its still not exactly on par with IOS responsiveness to touch. For me, that was one of the most important things, so I switched, May not be for everyone, obviously.

Now I get Apples because I like it and i enjoy being part of the Apple launches and general phenomenon. SUre it may not have the most cutting edge tech, but we know the tech they use is usually out long enough to be generally issue free (not every time, obviously). For a lot of Apple people I think we don't compare iPhone to other brands, but rather we compare it to the other iPhones and iPads Apple offers because we are Apple fans and that's what the choices usually are.

Even so, I'd never tell anyone to get iPhone if they want cutting edge tech. Most everyone around here has iPhone though, mainly because they aren't super tech savvy and its easier when everyone has the same format.
 
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i think the point people are making in regards to Apple not being on the cutting edge needs to have added clarity.

Apple is on the cutting edge but they typically never release a product until the tech is proven. It's hard to argue that when Apple releases a product, the tech on it usually works very very well and consistently. Furthermore, how can people say Apple has fallen behind if we look at chip sets. The A10, A10X, and A11 are equal or miles ahead of anything else in any phone or tablet. The A10 is still as fast or faster than everything else and forget the A10X/A11. I would rather have a phone that has features that consistently works extremely well but may not be the absolute latest vs features that aren't perfected and don't work consistently.
 

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i think the point people are making in regards to Apple not being on the cutting edge needs to have added clarity.

Apple is on the cutting edge but they typically never release a product until the tech is proven. It's hard to argue that when Apple releases a product, the tech on it usually works very very well and consistently. Furthermore, how can people say Apple has fallen behind if we look at chip sets. The A10, A10X, and A11 are equal or miles ahead of anything else in any phone or tablet. The A10 is still as fast or faster than everything else and forget the A10X/A11. I would rather have a phone that has features that consistently works extremely well but may not be the absolute latest vs features that aren't perfected and don't work consistently.
humm ok lets break this statement down. wireless charging still works better on android, samsung pay still works better than applepay, screen tech is still better on android....should i go on?
 
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humm ok lets break this statement down. wireless charging still works better on android, samsung pay still works better than applepay, screen tech is still better on android....should i go on?
Not really sure how Samsung Pay works better. I NEVER have issues with Apple Pay and I have never seen Samsung Pay at a business that didn't also have Apple Pay. I have seen many places with Apple Pay that don't offer Samsung Pay. I'm in Nashville so maybe it's a location thing. Screen tech, maybe the phones, but not the new iPad Pro models. How do we know wireless charging works better? Has anyone tested the new iPhones yet?
 
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humm ok lets break this statement down. wireless charging still works better on android, samsung pay still works better than applepay, screen tech is still better on android....should i go on?
Samsung pay bleh, over saturated colors blehand wireless charging is optional. You didn't convince me at all
 

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Samsung pay bleh, over saturated colors blehand wireless charging is optional. You didn't convince me at all
samsung pay works at every single location that applepay works and then some. if your apple pay doesn't work at certain merchant chances are samsung pay will. as far as the saturated colors you can control that within the display settings. something you can't do on an iphone
Not really sure how Samsung Pay works better. I NEVER have issues with Apple Pay and I have never seen Samsung Pay at a business that didn't also have Apple Pay. I have seen many places with Apple Pay that don't offer Samsung Pay. I'm in Nashville so maybe it's a location thing. Screen tech, maybe the phones, but not the new iPad Pro models. How do we know wireless charging works better? Has anyone tested the new iPhones yet?
applepay currently works at approx 250,000 locations samsung pay work at over 30million
 

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It's funny, I think Google's apps are better on iPhone.

For maps and I do like google docs

humm ok lets break this statement down. wireless charging still works better on android, samsung pay still works better than applepay, screen tech is still better on android....should i go on?

Samsung Pay doesn't work better. If your bank is available, it can work at more places, because of NFC. Less banks are set up for Samsung Pay.

How does wireless charging work better? When it will be used the same way, but also with your airpods and apple watch.
 

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humm ok lets break this statement down. wireless charging still works better on android, samsung pay still works better than applepay, screen tech is still better on android....should i go on?
Do all Android phones use Samsung Pay? Or Just Samsung phones? Honest question.
 

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For maps and I do like google docs



Samsung Pay doesn't work better. If your bank is available, it can work at more places, because of NFC. Less banks are set up for Samsung Pay.

How does wireless charging work better? When it will be used the same way, but also with your airpods and apple watch.

I have both. Apple Pay uses only NFC. Samsung Pay works better because not only can it use NFC, but it can also work on magnetic readers, and there are still much more magnetic readers out there then NFC stations. Of course that will change hopefully in the future. But as of now, Samsung Pay works in many more locations.

Wireless charger works better on the Samsung because Apples wireless charging is using a much slower charging method.
 
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I have both. Apple Pay uses only NFC. Samsung Pay works better because not only can it use NFC, but it can also work on magnetic readers, and there are still much more magnetic readers out there then NFC stations. Of course that will change hopefully in the future. But as of now, Samsung Pay works in many more locations.

Wireless charger works better on the Samsung because Apples wireless charging is using a much slower charging method.

But less banks use Samsung Pay. So IF your bank/credit card/credit union is set up for Samsung Pay you can use it more places.

It doesn't help you if your bank isn't set up for Samsung Pay.
 

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But less banks use Samsung Pay. So IF your bank/credit card/credit union is set up for Samsung Pay you can use it more places.

It doesn't help you if your bank isn't set up for Samsung Pay.

Uh..Obviously......but if your bank uses Apple Pay and Samsung Pay, and you have a choice which to use, the Samsung Pay would be the better choice since you can use it in more places.

Besides what banks are you referring too? Samsung Pay works with most major banks. If your stuck with a bank that only uses Apple Pay then yeah, use that. But Samsung Pay works better if that bank ever supports Samsung Pay in the future.

Chase
Bank of America
Wells Fargo
Citi
American Express
Discover
Capital One
US Bank
USAA
NAVY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION
SUNTRUST
BB&T
TD BANK
Synchrony
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The latest phones from Apple and Samsung show that these products are taking very different and diverging paths. Apple continues down some path that is striving for glitz and “a-ha / wow” technology; while Samsung seems to be putting more focus on phone practicality. Neither the ip8 nor the iPhone X has a single new practical feature to make my busy life easier. Meanwhile, customization on the Note apperars to be easy, and the pen is a great add for me (especially the side note feature).

Samsung putting focus on phone practicality.. ROTFLOL. Apple has always been said to be about "glitz" but the fact is that has been FanDroid version. For those of us that use our phones day in and day out they simply work and get the job done. Samsung has tried so many gimmicks and rolled out half assed implementations of so many things. Apple is rarely first to anything, but when they do finally roll it out. It's usually spot on with the exception of MAPS, which by the way have gotten much better these days.

I did the Samsung Note thing... I stayed on Android for almost 3 years and when Apple rolled out the Plus phones... I was never so happy to go back. This thread reminds me of all the reasons... lack of updates... months and months of waiting for updates if they ever come. The list goes on and on and on...

Bottom line is competition is good and if Android works for you... go for it. I am never going back to Android and I have so, so many buddies that did exactly what I did... went Android and most of them are now back using iPhones.

I can text from my computer and take calls from my computer... start watching a movie on one device and hand it off to the other... All my stuff works together and I was NEVER able to get that with Android. PERIOD!

Good luck and we'll leave the light on for you! :)
 
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One of the things that really annoys me (just me personally)Animoji. How does animojis suppose to help me with productivity?

While I don't have much problem with other things Apple offered, but this.... I understand it's for fun, but I believe they could implement face modeling with something else.

I hope this is used to cheer people up,
 
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One of the things that really annoys me (just me personally)Animoji. How does animojis suppose to help me with productivity?

While I don't have much problem with other things Apple offered, but this.... I understand it's for fun, but I believe they could implement face modeling with something else.

I hope this is used to cheer people up,

I think in the coming months we are all going to be shocked at what developers come up with for using the Face Scanning Tech build into these phones. Standby!

Yes... Animoji's was just to give us a glimpse of what it can do, but is for fun and demo more than anything else.

To me, with the iPhone X, Apple are almost gearing it to the youngsters of today. Thus hoping to sell more? Just my guess...

Actually I can remember Samsung commercials about how iPhones are just for old people. It won't just be youngsters buying these phones, you can bet on that.
 

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I think in the coming months we are all going to be shocked at what developers come up with for using the Face Scanning Tech build into these phones. Standby!

Yes... Animoji's was just to give us a glimpse of what it can do, but is for fun and demo more than anything else.
I hope it's just a demo that leads to something else.
 

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Not sure how you got to that conclusion. There's plenty of Android users who prefer the vanilla experience with devices like the Pixel or prefer using devices from those outside of Samsung. Also, not sure if you noticed, but Apple have made the power button on the iPhone X also act as a button to activate Siri if you hold it down.


You can activate Bixby or Google Now while it's sleep by saying "Hey Bixby" or "OK Google".
It will activate when it's asleep and not plugged in? Good to know then as people were complaining about this very thing on the A.C. forums which is what I based my information from
 
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