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rui no onna

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It’s Called “decency”
guessing you never heard of that.

WWDC is the announcement.

If Apple had announced it would be software-only, the only rumors that would have stopped was regarding new MacBooks.

Big software changes are exactly what a lot were expecting for iPadOS so unless Apple pretty much releases all the details prior to WWDC, that wouldn't have stopped the disappointment for those with high expectations for the M1 iPad.

And really, they've already said they weren't merging MacOS and iPadOS before WWDC. Not exactly their fault when people chose to ignore them.
 

Andropov

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Apple showed their true colours today, the M1 iPad was nothing more than a easy marketing cash grab.

They basically gave their customers the middle finger, never seen anything more lacklustre than iOS/iPadOS 15, all that hype about the M1 and extra ram was never going to benefit us in the end.

Love my apple products, but I won’t be upgrading as often as I have in the past, it’s time apple started earning our money, leave out new features and hardware that can easily be added to new products, you won’t be getting my money from now on.

Everyone true colours eventually come out, apple showed theirs today in a BIG way.

Agreed. Apple should have shipped a slower iPad with less RAM. How dare they.
 

boss.king

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Apple showed their true colours today, the M1 iPad was nothing more than a easy marketing cash grab.

They basically gave their customers the middle finger, never seen anything more lacklustre than iOS/iPadOS 15, all that hype about the M1 and extra ram was never going to benefit us in the end.

Love my apple products, but I won’t be upgrading as often as I have in the past, it’s time apple started earning our money, leave out new features and hardware that can easily be added to new products, you won’t be getting my money from now on.

Everyone true colours eventually come out, apple showed theirs today in a BIG way.
It sounds like you bought a device based on expectations of future functionality based on unsubstantiated rumors. Don't do that. Never get a device that doesn't do what you want it to from the day you take it out of the box.
 

Ludatyk

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on the positive side, if you spent $329 on the cheapest iPad available, you will get all of the software updates on the maxed out iPad Pro you spent $2399 on.
That’s irrelevant tbh. Could mention the same for those who purchased a 10k Mac… a 1k Mac could do the same on macOS, in regards to software update.
 
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iamyash

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It’s starting to make sense now. Just as some iOS 15 features are only compatible over A12 silicon as it requires latest and more powerful Neural Engine to do ML things, future pro apps will only support iPad running M chips.

When we got A12, A13 and so on, it was laying foundation for iOS 15. Who the heck needed next level ML engines for iOS 12/13/14 but it was added for iOS 15 and further updates. iOS updates consider previous models not just current model. They are not going to bring out pro apps just for M1 iPad when majority users are on previous models.
 

PrettyWings

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Clearly you don't draw/paint/design or otherwise use the Pencil (Procreate, Affinity Designer, Concepts and many more apps).

And you don't care about weight and portability (13" MacBook Pro is more than twice the weight of a 12.9 inch iPadPro).

And don't need the convenience of taking photos with an iPad.

We buy and use what meets our needs.

You don't need an M1 iPad Pro to use Procreate.

For about the price of a decked out M1 iPad Pro you can get a 2020 iPad Pro and a Mac.

It can't replace a laptop unless you're probably not doing much. Are there really people out there in these industries that buy an iPad Pro and then don't still need an actual desktop or laptop??

Adobe just released M1-optomized Lightroom for M1 Macs, with performance improvements. Another reason to buy the Mac instead, they won't actively do things to prevent you from using it's power.

Who's taking pictures with iPad lol. Come on man.
 
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PrettyWings

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And the MacBook Pro refresh is supposed to bring the Mini-LED from the iPad Pro. So it creates a box for them where they don’t have a marketable bonus to the iPad Pro. It’s one unique feature is the pencil it doesn’t even come standard with.

I already own my M1 so I am on the ship now. But I do honestly wonder if they are planning to announce something I’m September or over the summer as the betas flush out.

They added so much extra signaling to the iPad Pro I am still struggling to understand why.

Yeah, I kind of think there's something else coming. It's very weird to make this big deal about the power and capability of something and then do nothing with it.
 

PrettyWings

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It is what it is. I’m not really concerned.… the iPad is my primary computing device, it’s practically my favorite Apple product. Although, I wish I would of waited… but hey, we on the ship now.

My alternative is… return it, go get the latest iPad Air and M1 MBP? But I prefer the larger display of the iPad Pro.

Well, that's the power you still have. It can go back. I'm probably about 70% it's going back and I'll get a different 12.9. Looks like if I decide today it can get here tomorrow.
 

Surfman

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On an iPad? No it’s not. and I’m talking about the translate app itself being of little use on an iPad Compared to a built in calculator app. They did it with the remote app. Integrated it into control center. They could do the same with calculator. They put it on the damn Apple Watch ……the watch . But not a productivity device like iPad. It’s pathetic
Lol, try the Calculator app, better than anything apple will come up with, been using it for years. Or buy a actual calculator haha, which is what i use for work and 100 times better than a stupid app.
 
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Digitalguy

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That's what's blowing my mind. You could get a Mac for the same price or less. Everything you can do with a iPad Pro, you can do on a Mac, especially now with the emulator playing iOS apps. The only thing it doesn't have is the touch screen. So what is the reason to buy these?
There are many things an iPad can do that a Mac can't...
Even if you don't consider artists (which is an important market), you cannot use it to take handwritten notes, annotate document with a pencil... And even if you don't have a pencil, you can still use it to read as a book, thanks to aspect ratio and possibility to use it in portrait mode, including while standing (and it's much lighter if you need to hold it). Only when you write you need a keyboard and even then you can easily remove it. And then there is the fun factor (and I guess touch is part of the fun factor).
When you like to use something you are more willing to do things.
I see this with electric scooters for instance, they are much more fun to ride than a motor scooter or even a car, although those are more capable...
That's why people would like to combine the 2, since it's technically possible.
There are essentially 2 reasons:
1. saving money by just getting one device
2. (probably main reason) convenience of having to carry/manage only once device that can do both (+ cellular for iPads)

But that's not in Apple's interest...
 

MacModMachine

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you are all forgetting, it's still a pandemic, its harder to do anything! including developing better apple software and products.. just the facts...
not really , our departments in our company as a whole i performing better than they ever have during the pandemic and WFH.
 

LFC2020

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Agreed. Apple should have shipped a slower iPad with less RAM. How dare they.
Haven’t you got a new beta to play with? Oh wait it’s basically iPadOS 14 with a new wallpaper, that M1 chip and extra ram is going to be awesome for animojis and candy crush hey ???
 

Never mind

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So you want an announcement about what the upcoming announcement is about before the actual announcement?
Let me explain to those that lack some comprehension skills. The only announcement that Tim Cook should have made was, this is just a software only event and no hardware would be announced. That’s all he had to say. Everything else would’ve been mute from the rumor mills. Is that so hard to do? Is that so complicated to understand? He didn’t have to say anything about anything else except the HARDWARE part.
 
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LFC2020

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Let me explain to those that lack some comprehension skills. The only announcement that Tim Cook should have made was, this is just a software only event and no hardware would be announced. That’s all he had to say. Everything else would’ve been mute from the rumor mills. Is that so hard to do? Is that so complicated to understand? He didn’t have to say anything about anything else except the HARDWARE part.
Tim Cook is a tool, the sooner he leaves apple the better, only thing he’s been innovating lately, is apple carpool karaoke.

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StumpyBloke

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Let me explain to those that lack some comprehension skills. The only announcement that Tim Cook should have made was, this is just a software only event and no hardware would be announced. That’s all he had to say. Everything else would’ve been mute from the rumor mills. Is that so hard to do? Is that so complicated to understand? He didn’t have to say anything about anything else except the HARDWARE part.

Firstly, stop being so damned rude to people that don’t agree with you.

Secondly, they owe you nothing. They owe you no announcement. WWDC historically is software, with only a few hardware announcements throughout the years. To expect any hardware was very naive for this event. Your problem, you deal with it.
 

soulreaver99

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Tim Cook is a tool, the sooner he leaves apple the better, only thing he’s been innovating lately, is apple carpool karaoke.

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Keynote production quality and shows no one cares about is prioritized over product and software innovation.

On a side note - I don't disagree with the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the discussion here. I really like my 11 inch M1 iPad Pro for what it is and what it does for me, and yeah I definitely wish it had more of a software upgrade people had hoped for... i'm just here for the comments because a lot of good points have been made and some of them are just down right entertaining :)
 
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LFC2020

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Firstly, stop being so damned rude to people that don’t agree with you.

Secondly, they owe you nothing. They owe you no announcement. WWDC historically is software, with only a few hardware announcements throughout the years. To expect any hardware was very naive for this event. Your problem, you deal with it.
Jon Prosser just read your post and he ain’t happy.
 

StumpyBloke

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Keynote production quality and shows no one cares about is prioritized over product and software innovation.

On a side note - I don't disagree with the satisfaction or dissatisfaction of the discussion here. I really like my 11 inch M1 iPad Pro for what it is and what it does for me, and yeah I definitely wish it had more of a software upgrade people had hoped for... i'm just here for the comments because a lot of good points have been made and some of them are just down right entertaining :)

Except for the personal insults being thrown around by the usual select few, I agree, this thread is fantastic reading.
 
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