iPad Pro After releasing the new M1 iPads and WWDC Apple is a spineless and gutless company who can take us for a ride whenever they want.

[FrozenDarkness]

There are tons of tiny fiddly bits in FCP that will need reworking for touch. While they COULD release it on iPad, I don’t think they will without it being touch centric.

i mean there's a bajillion ways to solve for this. They could follow Adobe's example and make a more streamlined version of each for touch and work to add features back in. Akin to what they did with photos when they deprecated iPhotos or what they did with their productivity suite (word, powerpoint, excel forgot their names for it).

My entire point is for a company as big as apple, do you really think they couldn't have solved for this if they prioritized it?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

i mean there's a bajillion ways to solve for this. They could follow Adobe's example and make a more streamlined version of each for touch and work to add features back in. Akin to what they did with photos when they deprecated iPhotos or what they did with their productivity suite (word, powerpoint, excel forgot their names for it).

My entire point is for a company as big as apple, do you really think they couldn't have solved for this if they prioritized it?

The same company that spent 4 years working on a pair of headphones? Two years working on AirTags? (and that was just from a google search of “Apple spent years on” LOL) Neither of which are as complex as Final Cut Pro?

Even if you look at it from the perspective of “a bajillion ways” to solve for this, only ONE of those will get shipped, so they’d have to work through a bajillion options. Just because you task nine women with having a baby, doesn’t mean you can get 1 baby in a month.

 

[FrozenDarkness]

The same company that spent 4 years working on a pair of headphones? Two years working on AirTags? (and that was just from a google search of “Apple spent years on” LOL) Neither of which are as complex as Final Cut Pro?

Even if you look at it from the perspective of “a bajillion ways” to solve for this, only ONE of those will get shipped, so they’d have to work through a bajillion options. Just because you task nine women with having a baby, doesn’t mean you can get 1 baby in a month.

Sure.

iPad Pros have been around for 5 years. They must've known about the intel transition for 2-3 of those years internally as well.

For context, lumafusion launched on iPad a year after the iPad pro launch. A company that surely did not have any knowledge of apple's plans for a pro device.

 

[ElBerserko]

Upselling 16GB of RAM with no conceivable way to use it properly in the OS and no apps is one step removed from a false promise. People are rightly upset about it. It shouldn't take a deep analysis of what iOS is currently capable of doing with its RAM to pick out the right iPad for your needs.

I don't get why people don't understand there are more ways to use 16GB of RAM than just with one pro app.

iPad apps are limited to 5GB of RAM usage and doesn't have a virtual memory backing store. Therefore if I have an app like Procreate running using all 5GB and maybe another app like Safari with a lot of tabs taking 5GB, I am already using 10GB right there, not counting what the OS is using.

16GB allows you to keep more apps open without the risk of the OS deciding that it an app needs to be terminated on you potentially losing work.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Sure.

iPad Pros have been around for 5 years. They must've known about the intel transition for 2-3 of those years internally as well.

For context, lumafusion launched on iPad a year after the iPad pro launch. A company that surely did not have any knowledge of apple's plans for a pro device.

Lumafusion, a new app with no legacy plug-in architecture, no old file types it has to work with and built from the ground up on ARM. Not QUITE an even comparison.

You seem to be upset upset with Apple for not shipping FCP on the iPad Pro. I have NO words of encouragement regarding that. All I can say is that I’m fairly confident that Apple will ship it when they see fit to ship it. AND that there is also the likelihood that they will NEVER ship it. Until it exists, it’s probably best to assume that it won’t come out and just be pleasantly surprised if it appears.

 

[Ludatyk]

Upselling 16GB of RAM with no conceivable way to use it properly in the OS and no apps is one step removed from a false promise. People are rightly upset about it. It shouldn't take a deep analysis of what iOS is currently capable of doing with its RAM to pick out the right iPad for your needs.

Upset? Idk about that. Disappointed… yes. But using 16GB RAM can come in handy when dealing with multiple graphic intensive apps. Developers will be able to optimize for both the M1 and iPadOS 15, then come fall we might see benefits for the 16GB RAM iPPs.

At this point, I‘m not trying to downgrade and go back. I purchased the 16GB RAM model and it allows for me to keep it for 2-3 years. I’ll probably look to skip a generation or two.. I don’t see Apple doing nothing drastic to improve on this years model.

Perhaps, this M1 chip and upgraded RAM will help going forward for future iPadOS features. Looking at todays story regarding Intel Macs not getting some macOS Monterey features… you can buy a 16” MBP today and be withheld from certain macOS features.

 

[usagora]

Upselling 16GB of RAM with no conceivable way to use it properly in the OS and no apps is one step removed from a false promise. People are rightly upset about it.

That's ridiculous. People buy hardware all the time that they don't use to its max potential. They know what they're buying, so it's on them and them alone if they get upset about it. Even in this case, where you claim it's impossible to "use it properly" - it's still up to the buyer which model they want - and if they want 1TB or 2TB storage, they're going to buy the models with 16GB RAM anyway (since those are the only models with that much RAM). The amount of RAM isn't even mentioned ONCE in the overview on the product page for the iPad - only on the tech spec sheets.

As others have said, to buy a product based on possible future potential, with no promises made by the company to release software that will fulfill that potential, and then to get upset that the software isn't released when you want it because you spent more money, is foolish.

 

[Ludatyk]

You seem to be upset upset with Apple for not shipping FCP on the iPad Pro. I have NO words of encouragement regarding that. All I can say is that I’m fairly confident that Apple will ship it when they see fit to ship it. AND that there is also the likelihood that they will NEVER ship it. Until it exists, it’s probably best to assume that it won’t come out and just be pleasantly surprised if it appears.

Tbh, I don’t see Apple shipping it. Similar to how Apple is building an alternative to XCode with Swift Playgrounds for the iPad. They either buy LumaFusion and build upon that app OR make FCP-like app from scratch. Because I don’t see Apple just porting over FCP without having some UI changes.

 

[FrozenDarkness]

Lumafusion, a new app with no legacy plug-in architecture, no old file types it has to work with and built from the ground up on ARM. Not QUITE an even comparison.

You seem to be upset upset with Apple for not shipping FCP on the iPad Pro. I have NO words of encouragement regarding that. All I can say is that I’m fairly confident that Apple will ship it when they see fit to ship it. AND that there is also the likelihood that they will NEVER ship it. Until it exists, it’s probably best to assume that it won’t come out and just be pleasantly surprised if it appears.

why would i be upset? Have you read my posts? I dont' even use FCP

My point is the fact that apple hasn't launched FCP and GB should tell you what they think about iPad Pro. (which is it's not a priority to make it a professional device)

which to me it's fine. i don't use it as a professional device.

 

[LFC2020]

The trackpad on the MacBook Pro doesn’t move, it only provides a haptic click. How is that less firm that a trackpad that moves?

Unfortunately yes and the mac trackpad is a lot quieter as well.

 

[jamezr]

You mean for your uses. I have all 3, M1 Air, 11” pro and MGK and now a new 12.9” and MGK. MGK is way better with the 12.9. And for my uses prefer it over the Air.

who else's uses would I be talking about? I am glad your set up and preferences work for you.
But mine differ from yours.

 

[jamezr]

I'm the opposite, I'm looking to get the magic keyboard, the new iPad Pro is everything I expected it to be, and I feel the magic keyboard will kick this up a notch

I just feel like the software is holding back the hardware with the iPad Pros.

 

[richpjr]

Which company is able to push anything significant with a chip shortage?

The posters comment was about the OS being updated during the pandemic, which is what I replied to.

 

[GuruZac]

As much as I’m against the MK (primarily for the price)… the new keyboard shortcut feature on iPadOS 15 is everything. I strongly disliked the keyboard shortcut on previous versions… the strip covered the entire screen, making it annoyingly impossible to use SlideOver at times.

What is the new keyboard shortcut feature? I use my Magic Keyboard app the time and am running iPadOS 15 Beta now as well.

 

[Ludatyk]

What is the new keyboard shortcut feature? I use my Magic Keyboard app the time and am running iPadOS 15 Beta now as well.

There’s the option of pressing and holding the command. That gives you shortcuts to choose from, but I’m more impressed with how narrow the bar is. Before.. it stretched out wide, making it difficult to use SlideOver at times.

And in addition to how narrow the bar is, you get the option to use the emojis while having an external keyboard.

 

[hatchettjack]

sounds like what you really want is a MacBook Pro! its an iPad for goodness sakes, for reading books, surfing the net on the couch, shopping, recipes in the kitchen! apple is never going to make one product that does it all! and why the hell would anyone need external monitor support on an iPad? get a Mac mini or an iMac, you know something that was designed for that! I bet you look really cool carrying that 13 inch camera around!

 

[thefourthpope]

Just because you task nine women with having a baby, doesn’t mean you can get 1 baby in a month.

never heard that one before; definitely adding it to my lexicon

 

[thefourthpope]

I'm the opposite, I'm looking to get the magic keyboard, the new iPad Pro is everything I expected it to be, and I feel the magic keyboard will kick this up a notch

Can’t speak to the 2021 model, but the magic keyboard made my 2018 iPP feel like a whole new machine. Pricey and worth every penny (yeah, I wish it had the function row)

 

[thefourthpope]

Returning my magic keyboard as well, for the price they're charging, battery drain, keyboard backlight can get annoying when tv is on keeps changing brightness 24/7, trackpad noisy as hell and a lot firmer than my MacBook Pro.

Though I have tap-to-click turned on so it’s quiet, I love how solid the trackpad is. It makes the whole keyboard feel substantial, like a real, functional tool.

The backlighting during a movie is annoying and I don’t get how that isn’t a background setting—if Apple TV is open and you’re not searching, the backlights should stay off unless/until you type. It’s a feature request I’ve submitted. The only workaround I’ve found is to detach and reconnect the iPad.

 

[theapplehead]

I think the worst part is the planned obsolescence for the Intel MacBook Pros. I never would've guessed they'd start phasing out features from them this quickly. Truly is a sad thing to witness.

 

[richpjr]

never heard that one before; definitely adding it to my lexicon

One of the project managers where I work says that all the time - lol.

 

[Collywobbles]

You guys realize they developed the OS during a global pandemic year...Also, there are other features they always omit early on so they can present it with hardware releases.

Developers isolate anyway, it's in their nature.

 

[Collywobbles]

Upselling 16GB of RAM with no conceivable way to use it properly in the OS and no apps is one step removed from a false promise. People are rightly upset about it. It shouldn't take a deep analysis of what iOS is currently capable of doing with its RAM to pick out the right iPad for your needs.

Upsell 16gb ram? You're still living in an Intel world stuck at the turn of the last century? Everything uses that ram, that's why they call it 'unified'. It's continually used, on demand; by CPU and GPU alike.

 

[Kevincjz]

One of the project managers where I work says that all the time - lol.

Yup hear this all the time too in the IT industry ?

 

[richinaus]

I was happily using my new iPad pro 12 1tb today.

Multitasking super quick, flicking from photos, Miro, Pinterest and adobe Fresco with ease. It was a fantastic experience and a much improved one over my 2018 iPad Pro.
The screen is great for images and fresco is simply smoother and quicker to use.

These may be minor things to some, but really made a difference to my professional work flow today, helping me earn money.