iPad Pro After releasing the new M1 iPads and WWDC Apple is a spineless and gutless company who can take us for a ride whenever they want.

[James Godfrey]

Which is fine, and even make sense, but then you have Apple running "what's a computer?" ads and doing everything they can to suggest that the iPad can be your everything device, when in fact they're working diligently behind the scenes to keep that from being true. It just strikes me as super shady, especially now that the iPad and the Mac are internally identical for the first time ever.

So not to be rude… but everyone who is making a buying decision needs to ask themselves ‘what’s a computer?’ And once they answer that question they can then decide if an iPad is enough of a computer to them or not.

That questions ‘What’s a computer?’ Is a very subjective question, and it is exactly why Apple use it because everyone has different needs for a computer, but luckily apple gives us plenty of choices, some of them require two devices granted, but that’s business, and that’s what Apple are… a business, they focus on long term profits, and bringing out an all in one device which suits everybody’s ‘what’s a computer’ question, it would be great in the short term as everyone would be jumping on it, but what do they do going forward to get you to upgrade that device regularly…

 

[spiderman0616]

Facts. I know it's a cliché thing to say... and as much as I enjoy being an iPad user, but I wish Steve Jobs was alive. iPad is being held back in favor of keeping the status quo.

Steve Jobs' original presentation of the iPad in 2010 is the single biggest reason why the iPad hasn't taken much mindshare away from traditional laptops. I'm actually not sure he would have been the best CEO for Apple in today's ultra competitive environment.

 

[thadoggfather]

Criticism is valid here

but I think reviewers are in part to blame for In lockstep speculating ‘WWDC will really unleash this device’ there was a universal expectation that its release coinciding with WWDC just a bit away, that they were setting the stage for something greater.

even when I traded my 2017 iPad Pro in, the employee told me he wasn’t going to upgrade but the M1 lured him in and he was confident WWDC would take it to the next level. He’s no insider, just a retail employee with the same rumor info swirling on The internet, but anecdotally I found that pretty funny

If youre really unhappy return it. It is conveniently outside of the return policy but a few days late, Apple traditionally will make a bad situation right if you really have remorse.

I think 2018/2020 people can stay put Just fine with what they have, and I would if I had one. For me, it was a good upgrade. New design, future proof chip that wont be utilitzed for a while sadly, but the Smart Keyboard to magic keyboard upgrade and ’new design’ I never partook in seal it for me.

I am disappointed, but I was already happy with my new iPad. If I weren’t, this would be salt in the wound and it would go back.

 

[4sallypat]

As I said in another thread, in these long threads I spot 3 main categories of people:
- the dreamers, .....
- the naïve Apple lovers ......
- the realistic ...........

I guess that while Apple managed to underwhelm even the 3rd category at WWDC, at least they didn't have high expectations about iPadOS and don't read into "pro" professional, but premium (regardless of the hardware)

PS It doesn't mean that the dreamers do not understand Apple's strategy, I think some do, probably most of them after WWDC, but they still find it unacceptable and feel the urge to express how disappointed they are...

Well summarized!

I see a 4th category:
- the perpetual hoping & waiting (the ones who keep saying the latest is not the best and will wait until A19XYZ and M5.1ABC is released along with 192GB RAM - meaning they will never buy anything waiting for the next best thing)

I loved the WWDC event - albeit a bit too long and too many people presenting bits.
I'd rather have the highlights like MR did:

 

[Ludatyk]

Steve Jobs' original presentation of the iPad in 2010 is the single biggest reason why the iPad hasn't taken much mindshare away from traditional laptops. I'm actually not sure he would have been the best CEO for Apple in today's ultra competitive environment.

Yeah, I recall the Steve Jobs presentation as the iPad sits in between the Mac and iPhone, but I think Steve Jobs wouldn’t be so hellbent on choosing profit over offering customers a fulfilling experience.

What I’m most disappointed by… is Apple trying to avoid the iPad standing on its own, it’s as if the Apple Watch to the iPhone like the iPad is to the Mac. That Universal Control feature where you can share the mouse across devices…. as an iPad user, who don’t care to own a Mac… I could care less about that feature.

Sidecar is already good enough, who’s asking for Universal Control feature? If they bringing Shortcuts to the Mac… bring Mac apps to the iPad?

I think 2018/2020 people can stay put Just fine with what they have, and I would if I had one. For me, it was a good upgrade. New design, future proof chip that wont be utilitzed for a while sadly, but the Smart Keyboard to magic keyboard upgrade and ’new design’ I never partook in seal it for me.

I’m alright with my upgrade, but I am disappointed as well. This iPad Pro is going to carry me for 2 to 3 years (maybe more), iPadOS has been refined… but I was looking for more features.

If anything, one could argue that macOS was a better upgrade than iPadOS.

 

[Bug-Creator]

is Apple trying to avoid the iPad standing on its own,

It needs to stand on it's own for those that actually buy and use the bulk of iPads.

You know those that never even think about adding a keyboard or mouse to their 10.2" iPad.

Those that don't care bout "pro" apps or file systems.

With every step Apple takes onto making the iPad an MacBookHeavy they do have to make sure that these people aren't overwhelmed, that apps and the OS stay consistent regardless wether you have a keyboard, pencil or just the touchscreen. Thats the priority and doing it while making those happy who want the iPP something it was never supposed to be is simply not possible (at least not anytime soon). And yes the result would be slightly less awful Windows8.

 

[LogicalApex]

A lot of us don't want "macOS on iPad" we want "an iPad that works without a million ridiculous and arbitrary limitations."

Consider this. The 12.9" iPad Pro has literally the same internals as the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, mini, and new iMac. Same CPU package, same RAM, same everything.

So, let's say I spend $2k+ on an iPad Pro, right? And it's awesome! And I love it! But then I realize that Scrivener for the iPad is just a pale imitation of Scrivener on the Mac, because of limitations inherent in iPad OS, and I can't do my work, maybe at all or maybe without jumping through a lot of ridiculous, arbitrary hoops.

In response, I put my $2k+ iPad Pro aside in frustration and pick up my MacBook Air that cost almost half as much, even though it has literally the same internals as the iPad, in order to accomplish a simple task that Apple has decided to make arbitrarily hard or impossible for the sole purpose of forcing me to buy the MacBook Air in the first place.

Apple -- and many of the people here -- say, "Well, buy both. Or just buy one or the other."

To which I and many others say, that's absurd. You've given me two devices that are functionally identical and yet you won't let me use one of them to its potential because of reasons no one can ever quite elucidate beyond, "Because they don't want you to."

Well Said.

I am also convinced the argument people are making for Apple's inability to find a vision for the iPad or their reality if they are aligned aren't as beneficial to Apple as it appears on the surface. Sure, Apple may sell another device in the short term to the user who buys the iPad and determines it isn't enough for specific workflows they have, but the problem quickly shifts over to the one you've shared here. Convincing them to upgrade...

I look around the forum here and MANY users here and MANY users I see out in the real world when I spot MacBook users at local coffee shops or other public spaces (when we could go out anyway) are users running older devices. Users are struggling to see compelling reasons to upgrade the hardware they're purchasing. This is true for iPad users as well. I recently upgraded to the 2021 iPad Pro due to the Apple Pencil fulfilling a tangible need in my work stream. Otherwise, I was content with my aged, albeit slow, iPad Air (OG). That was a 7 year span between iPad purchases and I expect a decade or longer for my MacBook like I see for others.

MacBook sales are already a fraction of iPad sales as well. So there is a lot of room to suggest that iPad limitations aren't bringing more buyers to Macs, but allowing users to skip Macs. Keeping the iPad in very limited spaces forces the user to grab the device they're most familiar with to get the job done so to speak. A user dedicated to the Apple ecosystem would seek out a Mac (but they likely already have one), but a PC user will just grab their Windows laptop or Desktop instead and might even think iPad limitations actually apply to Macs too...

Apple is missing out on a defining opportunity here. The Tablet market was largely meh due to the lack of vision for the iPad. Sure, iPad leads the tablet market, but it hasn't defined itself as anything more than a luxury device outside of very niche workflows. The Pandemic pushed a LOT of new people to tablets and the iPad specifically. But iPad limitations may make it extremely difficult for Apple to compel those users to upgrade or expand their foothold in the platform.

I still think Apple would do best to make the Mac and the iPad work so well together that, as I said in another post, it is like giving the Mac super powers. Sure, for some workflows that would allow a user to only buy an iPad. Just like for some workflows a user is able to buy only an iPhone and nothing else. But for the professional workflows that are increasingly occupying the space that Macs are in and iPad Pros are capable of being in they could deliver a product that no one else in the industry could match full stop. That allows you to seamlessly flip between the device (tool) best suited to the task at hand such that you can consider both essential.

I remain convinced they're missing the boat here.

 

[4sallypat]

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I still think Apple would do best to make the Mac and the iPad work so well together that, as I said in another post, it is like giving the Mac super powers. Sure, for some workflows that would allow a user to only buy an iPad. Just like for some workflows a user is able to buy only an iPhone and nothing else. But for the professional workflows that are increasingly occupying the space that Macs are in and iPad Pros are capable of being in they could deliver a product that no one else in the industry could match full stop. That allows you to seamlessly flip between the device (tool) best suited to the task at hand such that you can consider both essential.

I remain convinced they're missing the boat here.

This is correct and true.

At home and work, my iPads are never used much for productivity - it's more of a video streamer - so it's not used during the day at work as I am working on my Macs.

Can't wait to see how Mac OS Monterey with Universal control will change things for those that have both platforms.

 

[LogicalApex]

Sidecar is already good enough, who’s asking for Universal Control feature? If they bringing Shortcuts to the Mac… bring Mac apps to the iPad?

There in lies the conundrum Apple has by having no vision for the iPad.

They're making the iPad less and less valid of a choice as they add more and more iPad features to MacOS. No, I don't think they shouldn't add these features either...

If the rumors pan out and you're going to see the Mini-LED iPad Pro screen in a MacBook Pro later this year then what's left to notch the iPad ahead of a MacBook for a user? Pencil support is all I can think of.

• M1 Macs can run iPad Apps
• M1 Macs will now get Shortcuts
• M1 Macs have "Apple apps" that have feature parity with their iPhone and iPad counterparts
• M1 Macs have tablet like battery life
• M1 Macs have the "full power" of macOS so despite having access to everything the iPad can do on the same underlying hardware envelope they lack any of its limitations
• M1 MacBooks are lighter than the 12.9 iPad Pro if you use the Magic Keyboard...
• And probably a few others I've missed

Case in point for my real world experience. I got an iPP 2020 last year for myself and my wife. For me, there were tangible workflows that I thought it was ready to finally solve to compel me to upgrade so I tried it out. My wife had a 7 year old Windows Laptop we were also going to replace and she is heavily tilted toward the consumption side on her personal computing devices (she also has a powerful gaming Windows Desktop). Got her an iPad Pro as well to try it out and see if it could fit her workflow. Long story short. We returned the iPP and got her a M1 MacBook Pro instead. She has no desire to pickup another iPad for herself. I am sure MANY reach the same conclusion (it pops up regularly here on the forums!).

 

[JoshRtek0]

Time for Apple to earn our money? The whole world doesn’t upgrade their devices on the same schedule. Theirs probably millions of people on older iPads that will buy 2021 iPad Pro. Yes, I was also underwhelmed with PadOS 15, but Apple will sell millions of devices simply because of upgrade cycles. I went from a 2015 12.9 on launch day, to a 2018 12.9 on launch day. Now I’m at the 2021 12.9. It’s just part of the upgrade cycle. Apple earned my money… many others too.

This here. The 2021 12.9” will be my first iPad since the iPad 2 (2011). Not everyone is upgrading year after year.

 

[AutomaticApple]

the M1 chip and extra ram was only introduced for easy sales, nothing more, nothing less, stop defending them.

You should've said that to yourself before June 7.

 

[spiderman0616]

Yeah, I recall the Steve Jobs presentation as the iPad sits in between the Mac and iPhone, but I think Steve Jobs wouldn’t be so hellbent on choosing profit over offering customers a fulfilling experience.

What I’m most disappointed by… is Apple trying to avoid the iPad standing on its own, it’s as if the Apple Watch to the iPhone like the iPad is to the Mac. That Universal Control feature where you can share the mouse across devices…. as an iPad user, who don’t care to own a Mac… I could care less about that feature.

Sidecar is already good enough, who’s asking for Universal Control feature? If they bringing Shortcuts to the Mac… bring Mac apps to the iPad?


I’m alright with my upgrade, but I am disappointed as well. This iPad Pro is going to carry me for 2 to 3 years (maybe more), iPadOS has been refined… but I was looking for more features.

If anything, one could argue that macOS was a better upgrade than iPadOS.

Selfishly speaking, I'm glad macOS was updated more than iPadOS this year, because I switched back over to Mac a few months ago.

But I understand all the disappointment. I was kind of wondering if iPadOS 15 would make me see the error of my ways and go running right back to the iPad. The problem is that my nitpicks with iPadOS these days are not the kind of low hanging fruit that Apple seems interested in changing. They still have work to do on the multitasking and windowing mechanics before they get to any of my complaints. I personally didn't have a problem with the multitasking for the longest time until I tried using it on my 12.9" as my daily driver. It was then that I realized that it's not very useful because it constantly closes app pairings and instances down when it inevitably runs into an app that doesn't use any of iPadOS's most recent features. And unfortunately that's still the rule, not the exception. I can count on one hand how many of the apps I use daily actually take advantage of the iPad's CURRENT multitasking features, or hell, even the new features from a couple of versions ago.

 

[Artsketch]

There in lies the conundrum Apple has by having no vision for the iPad.

They're making the iPad less and less valid of a choice as they add more and more iPad features to MacOS. No, I don't think they shouldn't add these features either...

If the rumors pan out and you're going to see the Mini-LED iPad Pro screen in a MacBook Pro later this year then what's left to notch the iPad ahead of a MacBook for a user? Pencil support is all I can think of.

Why the heck should they make a Mac out of a pen tablet for creative professionals?

 

[AttilaTheHun]

Why the heck should they make a Mac out of a pen tablet for creative professionals?

as you say pen with tablet shouldn’t cost $2000

 

[teohyc]

People should get the tablet based on its current features. Buying something only to fantasize about some imaginary feature that will not come is only going to frustrate yourself. ?

But that feature will come eventually you tell yourself. Say that only when you see the feature.

 

[RSB96]

I think the problem is that many people assumed that because the iPad had the M1 it was going to become a Mac with macOS. I have been using the iPad as a "portable" computer for more than 7 years now, for more than a year.

I use Files to manage words, excel, PDFs, and organize them in my folders or to move them to a USB. I use it just like on Mac, I don't miss anything crazy (for what I do). But it's good that they have put the loading time of the files if they are heavy (not my case, because photos and others, go through iCloud in Photos).

Multitasking I use it quite a lot, and I think those improvements they have introduced help a lot in the day to day if you use that functionality a lot. For my taste, I want to see if it is no longer necessary to have the app in full screen to use the camera, which makes me despair sometimes.

I use the Apple Pencil to underline and annotate in the writings that are sent to me things that occur to me or important, what they have introduced, without being anything new, seems to me a great improvement, because sometimes something occurs to me or I find something interesting for some writing that I do and then I do not remember where I got it.

And I use a lot of Word, Pages, PDF Expert, Notes at work; and in my personal life, Procreate, Pixelmator Photo, and messaging apps and Safari.

Things like that on a Mac I can't do, so the iPad for many things is a very useful tool for me. In fact, I'm missing LexNet and the Sims 4 so I'm not dependent on any laptop.

And well, as a person who has a partner and family members away, FaceTime is a good part of my day to day life to stay in touch with them, so these are improvements that I also appreciate and find very interesting.

I don't use the maps on the iPad, obviously, but I do on the iPhone, so I also appreciate all these new features, which I think are pretty cool.

Yes, many of you wanted to have a Mac on an iPad... and surely they will come, but I don't understand why buy something based on speculation or rumors or assumptions that no one has made or confirmed. If Final Cut for iPad comes out, buy the iPad when it does, not because X says it's coming this year (who knows, maybe it will, maybe next year), because a big part of that frustration is that people thought that by bringing the M1 the iPad was going to become a Mac, and seeing that it hasn't, people are angry.

Of course, I think it's about time to get those apps (I strongly desire a full Word taken from MacOS), but for the moment it is what it is, beyond marketing and future promises.

 

[Artsketch]

as you say pen with tablet shouldn’t cost $2000

I paid only $1099 and got fast tablet that runs enough creative apps with an unmatched display capable of accurate colors for photo editing and not an OLED.

 

[spiderman0616]

There in lies the conundrum Apple has by having no vision for the iPad.

They're making the iPad less and less valid of a choice as they add more and more iPad features to MacOS. No, I don't think they shouldn't add these features either...

If the rumors pan out and you're going to see the Mini-LED iPad Pro screen in a MacBook Pro later this year then what's left to notch the iPad ahead of a MacBook for a user? Pencil support is all I can think of.

• M1 Macs can run iPad Apps
• M1 Macs will now get Shortcuts
• M1 Macs have "Apple apps" that have feature parity with their iPhone and iPad counterparts
• M1 Macs have tablet like battery life
• M1 Macs have the "full power" of macOS so despite having access to everything the iPad can do on the same underlying hardware envelope they lack any of its limitations
• M1 MacBooks are lighter than the 12.9 iPad Pro if you use the Magic Keyboard...
• And probably a few others I've missed

Case in point for my real world experience. I got an iPP 2020 last year for myself and my wife. For me, there were tangible workflows that I thought it was ready to finally solve to compel me to upgrade so I tried it out. My wife had a 7 year old Windows Laptop we were also going to replace and she is heavily tilted toward the consumption side on her personal computing devices (she also has a powerful gaming Windows Desktop). Got her an iPad Pro as well to try it out and see if it could fit her workflow. Long story short. We returned the iPP and got her a M1 MacBook Pro instead. She has no desire to pickup another iPad for herself. I am sure MANY reach the same conclusion (it pops up regularly here on the forums!).

I'm not sure if it's lack of vision, but I agree with the rest of what you're saying. As Jason Snell put it, the non-Mac products that Apple makes are subsets of the Mac. They do things the Mac can do, but ONLY that group of things. That's their "job", so to speak: take tasks away from the Mac that used to only be on the Mac.

But the Mac itself is the "superset", save for the lack of a touchscreen, which I still think is an overrated feature on a Mac or even when using an iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard. The ergonomics just aren't great in my opinion. But for everything else, the Mac is the all encompassing device that can do almost everything all the other devices do. And as far as I know, all the non-Mac OSes that Apple ships are still literally subsets of macOS.

People will point out the higher sales of iPad as proof that Apple should ditch the Mac and build iPadOS out more as a productivity-focused OS, but that's not a very reliable metric. I would like to know what percentage of iPad sales are to people who want to use it as a laptop. I bet it's not that high of a number. But Apple doesn't need to care about this. It's no disadvantage to them to just put their latest silicon in all their devices, and that's exactly why the iPad has an M1 in it now.

EDIT: I guess my main point is that the story Apple wants to tell with the iPad, is very different from what Macrumors users think the story should be. Just let the iPad be the iPad. Some people can use that as a full blown computer, some can't. It doesn't really matter. Apple never said anyone should own both (though they're happy to sell you both) and Apple never said you have to choose one over the other (though they're happy to sell you whichever one you choose). I personally believe that the Apple ecosystem works better when you have all the pieces in play, but that doesn't mean you need a $1000 iPad Pro instead of a MacBook.

 

[Ludatyk]

I personally didn't have a problem with the multitasking for the longest time until I tried using it on my 12.9" as my daily driver. It was then that I realized that it's not very useful because it constantly closes app pairings and instances down when it inevitably runs into an app that doesn't use any of iPadOS's most recent features. And unfortunately that's still the rule, not the exception. I can count on one hand how many of the apps I use daily actually take advantage of the iPad's CURRENT multitasking features, or hell, even the new features from a couple of versions ago.

I never really had any issues with App Pairing closing on my 2018… never had crashing or anything of that nature. My issue with SplitView/SlideOver multitasking is that not all apps support it.

Apple hasn’t been strict on developers implementing it, granted… some entertainment or games doesn’t really need SlideOver, but SplitView should at least be an option. It’s the strict fixed nature of how its imposed is why I’m against this implementation of multitasking. Multitasking on the iPad is engrained in me, that’s why this refinement will take some getting used to. But it’s not what I was looking for.

 

[LogicalApex]

Why the heck should they make a Mac out of a pen tablet for creative professionals?

I'm sure even those creative professionals would appreciate a much more direct competitor to Wacom. The 2021 iPad Pro has the hardware chops to deliver that to them today, but Apple has even limited the ability of the iPP to target that demographic...

 

[spiderman0616]

I never really had any issues with App Pairing closing on my 2018… never had crashing or anything of that nature. My issue with SplitView/SlideOver multitasking is that not all apps support it.

Apple hasn’t been strict on developers implementing it, granted… some entertainment or games doesn’t really need SlideOver, but SplitView should at least be an option. It’s the strict nature of how its imposed is why I’m against this implementation of multitasking. Multitasking on the iPad is engrained in me, that’s why this refinement will take some getting used to. But it’s not what I was looking for.

I never had issues with crashing--it was more like, "Hey, I had that paired with something else and it was one 4 finger swipe away, and now it's gone. Where did it go?" Then I'd go into the slide up menu to find the app and it would be in it's own window somewhere because it didn't support the feature. There's not even a warning telling you that's happening, it just happens behind the scenes when you do something else with the app that used to be paired.

During a typical workday, I have 12 or 13 apps open ALL the time. It's not as important to me that they're all on-screen at once, but what IS important to me is that they stay put. In macOS, I put them on the monitor (or Space if I'm not in clamshell mode) and they stay the way I had them all day long, no matter what. In iPadOS, I can never be confident using that kind of workflow, because 75% of my apps still can't be in slideover and/or multiwindow at the same time. It's crazy frustrating.

 

[thadoggfather]

I am glad they dropped a new chip in the 2021 iPad Pro at least

going 2018 a12x to 2020 a12z was a total Tim move

 

[Mockletoy]

I think the problem is that many people assumed that because the iPad had the M1 it was going to become a Mac with macOS. I have been using the iPad as a "portable" computer for more than 7 years now, for more than a year.

I use Files to manage words, excel, PDFs, and organize them in my folders or to move them to a USB. I use it just like on Mac, I don't miss anything crazy (for what I do). But it's good that they have put the loading time of the files if they are heavy (not my case, because photos and others, go through iCloud in Photos).

Multitasking I use it quite a lot, and I think those improvements they have introduced help a lot in the day to day if you use that functionality a lot. For my taste, I want to see if it is no longer necessary to have the app in full screen to use the camera, which makes me despair sometimes.

I use the Apple Pencil to underline and annotate in the writings that are sent to me things that occur to me or important, what they have introduced, without being anything new, seems to me a great improvement, because sometimes something occurs to me or I find something interesting for some writing that I do and then I do not remember where I got it.

And I use a lot of Word, Pages, PDF Expert, Notes at work; and in my personal life, Procreate, Pixelmator Photo, and messaging apps and Safari.

Things like that on a Mac I can't do, so the iPad for many things is a very useful tool for me. In fact, I'm missing LexNet and the Sims 4 so I'm not dependent on any laptop.

And well, as a person who has a partner and family members away, FaceTime is a good part of my day to day life to stay in touch with them, so these are improvements that I also appreciate and find very interesting.

I don't use the maps on the iPad, obviously, but I do on the iPhone, so I also appreciate all these new features, which I think are pretty cool.

Yes, many of you wanted to have a Mac on an iPad... and surely they will come, but I don't understand why buy something based on speculation or rumors or assumptions that no one has made or confirmed. If Final Cut for iPad comes out, buy the iPad when it does, not because X says it's coming this year (who knows, maybe it will, maybe next year), because a big part of that frustration is that people thought that by bringing the M1 the iPad was going to become a Mac, and seeing that it hasn't, people are angry.

Of course, I think it's about time to get those apps (I strongly desire a full Word taken from MacOS), but for the moment it is what it is, beyond marketing and future promises.

My frustration is that the Mac is unsuited to part of my workflow, which involves using the Pencil to mark up long texts for editing, while the iPad is unsuited to most of the rest of my workflow, which involves lots of multitasking and pulling together information from a large number of sources in disparate formats.

Now that the iPad and Mac share an architecture, it’s deeply frustrating that Apple won’t unshackle it.

One of the things that annoys me most is that they get the basic concept — they’ve put some work into getting iOS apps running on Macs. But if you suggest that maybe that could go the other way suddenly people think you’ve lost your mind. I don’t get it.

Apple tells these folks to buy the literal same “computer” in two form factors, because it’s for their own good and a single, more capable device would just be too confusing for their tiny minds to make sense of, and they just throw their money at them in return, as if they’re grateful for the opportunity. Seems a bit cultish to me.

 

[Carlanga]

I’m not expecting stock macOS to run on a iPP. When it’s docked to a mouse/keyboard run the desktop macOS as we know it. When it’s undocked, fall back to the touch interface we know from iPadOS. All it needs is a on-the-fly switch, which is easy to do for Apple.

Please read again, I said for every device. Ax chips are iPhone and iPad only, you won’t find them in laptops and desktops. The lowest end M1 SoC is the M1, there won’t be anything below and it’s suitable for MBP, MBA, iMac and Mac Mini as well as iPhone and iPad. So why bother to design a new high end Ax SoC for the iPP, when you can use the M1 from the laptop/desktop range? The M1 will remain at the bottom end for laptops/desktops.

Your line of thinking is weird tbh. If the M1 is the lowest SoC then what’s the highest? For one to be low there needs to be at least one other that is higher.

 

[spiderman0616]

Your line of thinking is weird tbh. If the M1 is the lowest SoC then what’s the highest? For one to be low there needs to be at least one other that is higher.

AND the vast majority of computer/tablet/phone users will never in their lives touch the limits of what these current chips can do. You don't need an M1 to write a paper in Word and scroll through Twitter, that's for sure.