All jokes aside, what would be a reason to get the iPhone 7 Plus over the Note 7?

[Michael Goff]

If I understand right it's not exploding . It catches fire.You will be able to feel it if the phones gonna burn out.And Samsung has sent email after email on the matter.If people don't listen it's their fault.Difference between Apple and Samsung is that Apple didn't do a damn thing.Samsung did and that deserves a hats off

You're arguing semantics. A Note 7 had an exploding battery that caused a kid to be rushed to a medical center. Now we have people blaming the users and comparing it to things that hurt exactly 0 people. It's disgusting behavior, really. Oh, and hard to fee; of the phone is going to burn if it did it while it was charging and you were asleep. But keep blindly defending a company that put out the product and keep using this to continue the incessant Apple vs Samsung crap these things always turn into.

 

[Radon87000]

Well you understand wrong.
The note 7 is spontaneously combusting or exploding due to a manufacturer error from the battery.

The batteries were produced by Samsung.

No it's not exploding.It simply catches fire.If it exploded 2 things would happen

1.There would be nothing but small bits and pieces of the phone left yet the images I saw has the body melting down but overall still in one shape.While catching fire it obviously causes the fire to spread to other inflammables lying around

2.No one would survive .A Note 7 just 6 hours ago caught fire in NYC when a 6 year old was handling it yet he only suffered minor burns and was discharged the same day.If it had exploded he would be dead.Yet according to the media it supposedly exploded .Media hyping up the issue as usual.Nothing new

 

[Michael Goff]

No it's not exploding.It simply catches fire.If it exploded 2 things would happen

1.There would be nothing but small bits and pieces of the phone left yet the images I saw has the body melting down but overall still in one shape

2.No one would survive .A Note 7 just 6 hours ago caught fire in NYC when a 6 year old was handling it yet he only suffered minor burns and was discharged the same day.If it had exploded he would be dead.Yet according to the media it supposedly exploded .Media hyping up the issue as usual.Nothing new

Oh. Only minor burns. That makes everything alright. In fact, I'm sure you'll find a way to further downplay everything wrong with the batteries and downplay the whole incident simply because it hasn't killed anyone. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

 

[C DM]

No it's not exploding.It simply catches fire.If it exploded 2 things would happen

1.There would be nothing but small bits and pieces of the phone left yet the images I saw has the body melting down but overall still in one shape.While catching fire it obviously causes the fire to spread to other inflammables lying around

2.No one would survive .A Note 7 just 6 hours ago caught fire in NYC when a 6 year old was handling it yet he only suffered minor burns and was discharged the same day.If it had exploded he would be dead.Yet according to the media it supposedly exploded .Media hyping up the issue as usual.Nothing new

Seems like just about a perfect reply to that was just posted, and there really isn't much more this needs to or even could/should be said:

You're arguing semantics. A Note 7 had an exploding battery that caused a kid to be rushed to a medical center. Now we have people blaming the users and comparing it to things that hurt exactly 0 people. It's disgusting behavior, really. Oh, and hard to fee; of the phone is going to burn if it did it while it was charging and you were asleep. But keep blindly defending a company that put out the product and keep using this to continue the incessant Apple vs Samsung crap these things always turn into.

 

[FFR]

No it's not exploding.It simply catches fire.If it exploded 2 things would happen

1.There would be nothing but small bits and pieces of the phone left yet the images I saw has the body melting down but overall still in one shape.While catching fire it obviously causes the fire to spread to other inflammables lying around

2.No one would survive .A Note 7 just 6 hours ago caught fire in NYC when a 6 year old was handling it yet he only suffered minor burns and was discharged the same day.If it had exploded he would be dead.Yet according to the media it supposedly exploded .Media hyping up the issue as usual.Nothing new

Simply catches fire?
Are you kidding.

 

[Radon87000]

Oh. Only minor burns. That makes everything alright. In fact, I'm sure you'll find a way to further downplay everything wrong with the batteries and downplay the whole incident simply because it hasn't killed anyone. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

What I am saying is that people are using insane amounts of hyperbole with this issue.I agree Samsung is definitely at fault here but the point is that it's not a bomb that the media makes it out to be.If it was people wouldn't live to tell the tale.Catching fire and exploding are too different things .

It's the fault of the parents in that case for not heeding the news and emails regarding the Note 7.Samsung had told them so and they didn't listen .So it's not downplaying at all.I find it amazing that despite the phone "explosion" he only suffered burns

 

[Michael Goff]

What I am saying is that people are overhyping this issue.I agree Samsung is definitely at fault here but the point is that it's not a bomb that the media makes it out to be.If it was people wouldn't live to tell the tale.Catching fire and exploding are too different things .

It's the fault of the parents in that case for not heeding the news and emails regarding the Note 7.Samsung had told them so and they didn't listen .So it's not downplaying at all.

Blame anyone else. Shift. You earlier, in this topic, said Samsung was at fault. Then you said this. And you're still arguing semantics. The batteries are, technically, exploding.

 

[Radon87000]

Simply catches fire?
Are you kidding.

Nope.This is the Note 7 that exploded in a jeep

 

[C DM]

What I am saying is that people are using insane amounts of hyperbole with this issue.I agree Samsung is definitely at fault here but the point is that it's not a bomb that the media makes it out to be.If it was people wouldn't live to tell the tale.Catching fire and exploding are too different things .

It's the fault of the parents in that case for not heeding the news and emails regarding the Note 7.Samsung had told them so and they didn't listen .So it's not downplaying at all.

This is rather funny when it comes from someone that has been almost on a crusade often making claims along the lines of "micro-stutters" in iOS 9 making iPhones basically unusable and horrific, even when clearly called out on that obvious hyperbole time and time again. And now somehow trying to turn around and use that word (that has been escaping all along in almost meaningless by comparison iOS discussions) to apply to effectively nothing more than semantical differences between something combusting in someone's hands and something exploding. I submit that logic has been thrown out the window long long ago, and I would really question as to whether it was really ever there to begin with.

 

[Radon87000]

Blame anyone else. Shift. You earlier, in this topic, said Samsung was at fault. Then you said this. And you're still arguing semantics. The batteries are, technically, exploding.

Let me spell it out as you aren't getting it

Samsung is at fault for issuing the faulty Note 7s in the first place
Now that the damage is done they did the best they could by informing people of the problem.Now if people still refuse to listen to the warning especially when many airlines have banned the device on their own head be it

I don't agree that the phones are exploding.I disagree on this.No point continuing

This is rather funny when it comes from someone that has often made claims along the lines of "micro-stutters" in iOS 9 making iPhones basically unusable and horrific, even when clearly called out on that obvious hyperbole time and time again. And now somehow trying to turn around and use that word (that has been escaping all along in almost meaningless by comparison iOS discussions) to apply to effectively semantical differences between something combusting in someone's hands and something exploding. I submit that logic has been thrown out the window long long ago, and I would really question as to whether it was really ever there to begin with.

Your statement is flawed because I never said ios 9 was completely unusable.I played Batman Arkham Knight with a lousy 40 frames per second on PC with atrocious stutters all over the place.That doesn't mean it's unplayable.

iOS 9 does have stutters.Its not an exaggeration to say that they are horrible compared to iOS 8.iOS 10 mitigated a lot of that but still not perfect

 

[Radon87000]

I am leaving this here before leaving

explosion
ɪkˈspləʊʒ(ə)n,ɛk-/
noun
1.
a violent shattering or blowing apart of something, as is caused by a bomb.
"three explosions damaged buildings at the barracks"
synonyms: detonation, discharge, eruption, blowing up, ignition; More

 

[C DM]

Let me spell it out as you aren't getting it

Samsung is at fault for issuing the faulty Note 7s in the first place
Now that the damage is done they did the best they could by informing people of the problem.Now if people still refuse to listen to the warning especially when many airlines have banned the device on their own head be it

I don't agree that the phones are exploding.I disagree on this.No point continuing


Your statement is flawed because I never said ios 9 was completely unusable.I played Batman Arkham Knight with a lousy 40 frames per second on PC with atrocious stutters all over the place.That doesn't mean it's unplayable.

iOS 9 does have stutters.Its not an exaggeration to say that they are horrible compared to iOS 8.iOS 10 mitigated a lot of that but still not perfect

Just to repeat what you are essentially saying, for effect: it's not hyperbole to say that iOS 9 micro-stutters are horrible compared to iOS 8, but it's all overhyped hyperbole when the Note 7 combusts in people's hands. Yup...there it is.

 

[FFR]

Your cherry picking the definition.

"Telling the New York Post about the incident, the boy’s grandmother, Linda Lewis, said the explosion was strong enough to set off the alarms in their house and that her grandson was immediately taken to Downstate Medical Center because he obtained burns on his body."

 

[Hanzu Lao]

I don't think a rational conversation was possible.

 

[Knowimagination]

What other email clients did you try? It's hard to imagine you didn't find anything since Android has the best and most reliable email clients. I use Gmail for two Gmail accounts. Aqua Mail for two Yahoo and one MS Live accounts. For MS Exchange Nine is the best on any mobile platform. Gave up on the stock iOS mail client since it has the tendency to stop working, not display anything when launched and the only way to temporarily recover is to 'Erase all contents and settings" and restore from backup.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kman.AquaMail

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3

To be clear I'm not comparing to stock iOS email, I'm comparing to a third party iOS app called email by easilydo.

 

[8692574]

iOS, as simple as that!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

If I understand right it's not exploding . It catches fire.You will be able to feel it if the phones gonna burn out.And Samsung has sent email after email on the matter.If people don't listen it's their fault.Difference between Apple and Samsung is that Apple didn't do a damn thing.Samsung did and that deserves a hats off

Apple are not obliged to do anything about the exploding batteries on the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, it's not their product.

This is perhaps the biggest safety recall on a smartphone in modern times and is a PR disaster for Samsung. They are tackling it and hats off to them for their promptness in doing so. If it wasn't such a safety concern, most manufacturers ignore it until a certain amount of cases forces them to acknowledge it.

 

[TheRealAlex]

So, not due to the recall, but outside of that, what would be a reason to get the iPhone 7 plus over the Note 7?

I currently have the Note 7 and do really like it, but it has been recalled and I have the ability to switch to the iPhone 7 Plus. I seem to bounce back and forth between Android and iOS and can never feel fully satisfied with either one.

The Note 7 will get fixed, so wondering what reasons you think are the main reasons to go with the 7 plus over the Note 7 since the Note 7 on paper, and even in some hardware features are more impressive than the 7 Plus?

Note 7 has a better screen, wireless and fast charging, better waterproofing. The camera system may end up being a wash, although I do like the telephoto lens on the new 7 Plus. Just wondering if there were reasons you'd pick the 7 plus over the Note 7 besides saying it doesn't explode. Looking for some constructive feedback. I'm getting the itch to come back to iPhone, but not really unsatisfied with the the Note 7.

Thanks everyone!

To answer directly Why Apple 7 Plus has its advantages.

#1. Resale Value a used iPhone 7 Plus is worth $500 Minimum Resale a year after it comes out a New or used Note 7 won't be worth $100 Not even Trade in.
#2. Is ANYTHING happens to your 7 Plus you get a new one from the nearest App,e store it's the sense Apple has your back
#3. All Teens and Adults just buy an IPhone because they all work together Have you seen the new Texting Effects built in.? To iOS 10 Android buyers are mostly young to middle age males who enjoy technology or women.
#4. Speed and 3GB of RAM The iPhone 7 Plus quite simply is the Monster Gaming PC it's the Dodge Hellcat of cellphones Nothing's faster.

 

[spinedoc77]

Weirdly enough, Siri understands me more often than Google Now.

Siri was complete garbage with my wife's very mild accent, she used to rant and rave about it all the time. She says Google Now understands her perfectly. Interestingly enough even with that information, she still can't wait until her iPhone gets here Friday. She knows she will be frustrated, but still wants to go back to an iPhone.

 

[C DM]

Your statement is flawed because I never said ios 9 was completely unusable.I played Batman Arkham Knight with a lousy 40 frames per second on PC with atrocious stutters all over the place.That doesn't mean it's unplayable.

iOS 9 does have stutters.Its not an exaggeration to say that they are horrible compared to iOS 8.iOS 10 mitigated a lot of that but still not perfect

And since you specifically tried to deflect and call it out, just to show exactly what statement is "flawed" (and in this case it's more than that) I'll leave this here for everyone:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/planned-obsolescence.1947631/page-2#post-22418961

Apple wants us to upgrade which is why they have rendered all A5 chipset devices unusable with iOS 9.I wouldnt wish my iPad Mini on my worst enemy and I mean it

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...able-on-32-bit-devices.1931609/#post-22137970

Lol.I cant open more than two tabs on my iPad Mini without flushing out of memory and that's just basic web browsing.If that's not unusable ai don't know what is

 

[Radon87000]

And since you specifically tried to deflect and call it out, just to show exactly what statement is "flawed" (and in this case it's more than that) I'll leave this here for everyone:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/planned-obsolescence.1947631/page-2#post-22418961

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...able-on-32-bit-devices.1931609/#post-22137970

Nice job pulling out links from my ancient iPad Mini 1 which I have time and again claimed as complete trash.And yes it was trash on iOS 8 too.I sold it off too

Now let me see you pull out links calling my relevant devices iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6

Apple are not obliged to do anything about the exploding batteries on the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, it's not their product.

This is perhaps the biggest safety recall on a smartphone in modern times and is a PR disaster for Samsung. They are tackling it and hats off to them for their promptness in doing so. If it wasn't such a safety concern, most manufacturers ignore it until a certain amount of cases forces them to acknowledge it.

I was talking about the Apple Touch Disease issue which accounts for 11% of Apple Store Repairs and Apple stores were turning away customers with the defect.some repair experts claimed all iPhone 6 in the wild will eventually die from this issue .This is pretty serious imo

And yes that was my main point about Samsung that no one is giving them credit for a very swift response on this matter.Despite a class action lawsuit Apple ignored the Touch Disease issue

 

[MRU]

Siri was complete garbage with my wife's very mild accent, she used to rant and rave about it all the time. She says Google Now understands her perfectly. Interestingly enough even with that information, she still can't wait until her iPhone gets here Friday. She knows she will be frustrated, but still wants to go back to an iPhone.

Worst here for me is neither Siri or Google Now - (I find the two as accurate as each other for me when I use them) but really at the back of the pile are Cortana and S-Voice. Cortana is 'near' useless for me and S-Voice is really limited and useless

 

[C DM]

Nice job pulling out links from my ancient iPad Mini 1 which I have time and again claimed as complete trash.And yes it was trash on iOS 8 too.I sold it off too

Now let me see you pull out links calling my relevant devices iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6

I was talking about the Apple Touch Disease issue which accounts for 11% of Apple Store Repairs and Apple stores were turning away customers with the defect.some repair experts claimed all iPhone 6 in the wild will eventually die from this issue .This is pretty serious imo

And yes that was my main point about Samsung that no one is giving them credit for a very swift response on this matter.Despite a class action lawsuit Apple ignored the Touch Disease issue

So basically you actually said what you claimed you "never said". Thanks for re-clarifying, since your own posts already clarified that anyway.

And, no, your main point consists of just deflections as post after post have shown. Saying that the main point is one thing while continuously doing something else doesn't just magically make that the main point just because. Things don't work that way. Kind of like trying to pick on people's choice of words all while saying "never" about something that clearly happened (and then further trying to supposed deflect when it's all clearly pointed out).

 

[Radon87000]

So basically you actually said what you claimed you didn't say. Thanks for re-clarifying, since your own posts already clarified that anyway.

So wait you are going to apply that to the history of all devices I owned at a point of time ?(which is a lot) or maybe ,you know,the devices which I actually use everyday.I mean we might as well throw in my HP Pavilion a1510 from 2006 so if I call Windows XP on new hardware faster than Windows Vista you will pull out my post from years ago claiming Windows XP was laggy


So I guess I should put a constant disclaimer below as my sig that "applies only to the devices which I use everyday in normal course"

 

[C DM]

So wait you are going to apply that to the history of all devices I owned at a point of time ?(which is a lot) or maybe ,you know,the devices which I actually use everyday.I mean we might as well throw in my HP Pavilion a1510 from 2006 so if I call Windows XP on new hardware faster than Windows Vista you will pull out my post from years ago claiming Windows XP was laggy


So I guess I should put a constant disclaimer below as my sig that "applies only to the devices which I use everyday in normal course"

Simply not trying to imply someone else's statements are flawed by posting things that aren't actually true would do the trick. Not trying to deflect to imply that someone is being nitpicky all while trying to do almost exclusively just that in the very same thread would also probably help with credibility quite a bit.