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Radon87000

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Simply not trying to imply someone else's statements are flawed by posting things that aren't actually true would do the trick. Not trying to deflect to imply that someone is being nitpicky all while trying to do almost exclusively just that in the very same thread would also probably help with credibility quite a bit.
So let me apply your posting principles in respect to another performance issue

So I should say it like this every time I post something on gaming forums "Crysis 1 runs awesome on my GTX 1080 (my main rig) but it shows lags on my GTX 970,GTX 770 ,does not lag on GTX 980m,does lag on GTX 660,unplayable on 8800GTX ,does not even open on my Xpress 200 " every time I post instead of just saying Crysis runs at 60fps

So hypothetically if I owned every iPhone device including the first gen one I would need to post if it lagged or didn't on each device I owned at a point separately instead of just saying iOS 9 was never unusable

Got it .
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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So let me apply your posting principles in respect to another performance issue

So I should say it like this every time I post something on gaming forums "Crysis 1 runs awesome on my GTX 1080 (my main rig) but it shows lags on my GTX 970,GTX 770 ,does not lag on GTX 980m,does lag on GTX 660,unplayable on 8800GTX ,does not even open on my Xpress 200 " every time I post instead of just saying Crysis runs at 60fps

So hypothetically if I owned every iPhone device I would need to post if it lagged or didn't on each device I owned at a point separately

Got it .
The continued off-topic attempts at deflections and attempts to nitpick only keep on strengthening what I have bright up that much more.
 

Radon87000

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The continued off-topic attempts at deflections and attempts to nitpick only continuously strengthen what I have bright up that much more.
Ah the good old deflection charge .I am not nitpicking.Its basic reading comprehension that when I state iOS 9 was laggy yet never unusable I meant the devices I used every day .Or you will start pulling out posts from every legacy device I used to own at some point

PS-I only kept that iPad Mini around to see how far Apple will go to ruin it.Since it served that purpose as it won't get iOS 10 I sold it.If you do some digging around in my post history you should find that post too
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Ah the good old deflection charge .I am not nitpicking.Its basic reading comprehension that when I state iOS 9 was laggy yet never unusable I meant the devices I used every day .Or you will start pulling out posts from every legacy device I used to own at some point

PS-I only kept that iPad Mini around to see how far Apple will go to ruin it.Since it served that purpose as it won't get iOS 10 I sold it.If you do some digging around in my post history you should find that post too
It's all right there plainly laid out for everyone to see. There's really nothing more to be said. You are certainly welcome to keep on digging and picking at it, as they say--it doesn't change anything and only makes it all that much more obvious.
 
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Tsepz

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So, not due to the recall, but outside of that, what would be a reason to get the iPhone 7 plus over the Note 7?

I currently have the Note 7 and do really like it, but it has been recalled and I have the ability to switch to the iPhone 7 Plus. I seem to bounce back and forth between Android and iOS and can never feel fully satisfied with either one.

The Note 7 will get fixed, so wondering what reasons you think are the main reasons to go with the 7 plus over the Note 7 since the Note 7 on paper, and even in some hardware features are more impressive than the 7 Plus?

Note 7 has a better screen, wireless and fast charging, better waterproofing. The camera system may end up being a wash, although I do like the telephoto lens on the new 7 Plus. Just wondering if there were reasons you'd pick the 7 plus over the Note 7 besides saying it doesn't explode. Looking for some constructive feedback. I'm getting the itch to come back to iPhone, but not really unsatisfied with the the Note 7.

Thanks everyone!
For me personally there isn't even a reason to get a iPhone 7 Plus over my current Note 4, let alone a Note7.

iOS is still quite limited for my daily personal and work use, but the iPad is great for media, and thats what I use iOS for on my iPad, Netflix, iTunes, YouTube, some browsing and notes when on the phone etc... Great on the large 9.7inch display.
 

ISRMafia

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The apps on Android I've found (at least the ones I use) are pretty much equivalent. The reason I've jumped ship from iPhone a few times is because the customization has been so limited, but I haven't tried iOS10 and it did seem to make some improvements. Hardware wise, maybe outside of battery life, I feel like the Note has a large edge (pardon the pun). I really wish the iPhone would have at least brough quick charging. The lack of headphone jack blows, but it's not a deal breaker for me.
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The only reason I'm considering it is because since there is a recall, I can do it with practically no penalty.

You can buy a new iPads USB type 3 Charger and it will charge your iPhone Plus within 1h and 30m from 0 to 100% :)
instead of the normal charger
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Apple is trailing Samsung in innovation? When was the last time or anytime for that matter that Samsung put out tech in their phone that equals the innovation and sheer engineering of 3D Touch? Higher resolution or even OLED isn't exactly innovative or any kind of engineering feat. Resolution was mostly a spec war booster and OLED was just the next natural progress in overall screen technology.

Not sure how you can say Samsung hardware is better.

- CPU by far goes to Apple (A9 and soon to be A10 are industry leading chips)
- flash storage goes to Apple (much quicker)

- RAM goes to Apple because it's by far the best at managing less RAM better than more RAM in a Samsung

- camera will more than likely go to Apple on the 16th (especially on the 7+)

- speakers goes to Apple (because it will now be stereo)

- screen is a wash. Many prefer to say they have such a high resolution on Samsung's OLED, but mostly no perceived difference at normal viewing distances. Many prefer Apple's better colour calibrated screen, which is getting even better with the P3 cinema colour gamut on the 16th

- 3D Touch by far beats the sPen (can't put a finger in backwards and break the phone)

- Touch ID is the gold standard of what all phone fingerprint readers strive to be (and all have pretty much gotten on par now, so that's a wash)

- iPhone has never needed to be recalled due to potential death from hardware failure
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As the original Apple Watch taught us. Apple undersells the water resistance and over delivers. It was rated IPx7 but was able to handle far more without issue.

You should work at Apple ;)
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I was talking about the Apple Touch Disease issue which accounts for 11% of Apple Store Repairs and Apple stores were turning away customers with the defect.some repair experts claimed all iPhone 6 in the wild will eventually die from this issue .This is pretty serious imo

And yes that was my main point about Samsung that no one is giving them credit for a very swift response on this matter.Despite a class action lawsuit Apple ignored the Touch Disease issue
As far as I am aware the touch issue is not linked to safety and is purely a quality issue. While incredibly annoying for any customer who has paid a lot of money for the device, it is not 'serious' in the same way a phone that catches is and the potential lawsuits that attracts. Apple need to acknowledge the touch issue because it's bad for PR and if I was affected I'd be furious. Samsung have started tackling the Note 7 issue because it's bad for PR and potentially deadly.

The two issues are very different in terms of impact and I'm surprised or perhaps I'm not that you've not looked at the fundamentals of each case.
 
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Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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You should work at Apple ;)

Yeah no kidding. The phone isnt even out yet and he has declared victory, lol. I seem to recall many excited about the new iPhones only to be disapointed that it isnt much different....but they always go back hoping. LOL, did he say the screen is a wash? LMAO. And the iphone has less RAM because it doesnt have as much to run.....which is what it lacks. More things to run and do.
 
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spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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WTF are you guys even arguing about? I wasted 5 minutes of my life, which I'll never get back, reading through the last several pages of nothing. Just arguing about nothing. My God, enjoy your phones, return them get something else and ****, or keep them, take the risk and ****. There are no winners and losers in this argument because there really isn't an argument. Please someone tell me this is just an episode of Seinfeld. Jerry: "that desk is brown", George: "No it's sepia, wtf are you blind?" Jerry: "clearly it's brown, here is the research" Suddenly Kramer slides in the doorway "hey guys the definition of brown in the dictionary says of a color produced by mixing red, yellow, and black, as of dark wood or rich soil, but the definition of sepia says of a reddish-brown color, clearly it's not a desk but a credenza!" Wait a second those guys actually sound like they have a better argument.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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WTF are you guys even arguing about? I wasted 5 minutes of my life, which I'll never get back, reading through the last several pages of nothing. Just arguing about nothing. My God, enjoy your phones, return them get something else and ****, or keep them, take the risk and ****. There are no winners and losers in this argument because there really isn't an argument. Please someone tell me this is just an episode of Seinfeld. Jerry: "that desk is brown", George: "No it's sepia, wtf are you blind?" Jerry: "clearly it's brown, here is the research" Suddenly Kramer slides in the doorway "hey guys the definition of brown in the dictionary says of a color produced by mixing red, yellow, and black, as of dark wood or rich soil, but the definition of sepia says of a reddish-brown color, clearly it's not a desk but a credenza!" Wait a second those guys actually sound like they have a better argument.
Welcome to the Internet? ;)
 

nviz22

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At first I thought the Note 7 was really head and shoulders better, but the more I gave the iPhone 7+ a chance, I realized that the 7+ is a much better device.

The very little things we "value" seem to be much better on iOS and the 7+: reliability, timely updates, app performance, and no bloat.

While Samsung has bells and whistles, it comes down to how often you use them. I never used multi-window, VR, and other stuff enough to make it worthwhile.

The iPhone 7+ has the better user experience for me with no lag, cleaner software, tons of software updates, better performance, better stand by battery life, and apps work better.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Some of you guys sound like you literally have a apple up your arse.
The "A" is a common letter across both manufacturers.:rolleyes:
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Hmmmm... It seems to me that a $50 Android is capable of running such apps says more about Apple's price points than Android makers.
It speaks volumes about android manufacturers vs Samsung. Also some people value the customer service and support of Apple, which is part of what is being paid for.
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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Nothing wrong with $50 Android phone. My ~$40 Moto G1 is equivalent to an iPhone 6 but has a white Japan Display Inc (JDI) panel instead of a piss yellow panel that comes with many iPhone 7 and it doesn't hiss on video recordings. And, even Android 5.1 is more advanced and stable than the beta in progress iOS 10.
 

nviz22

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The "A" is a common letter across both manufacturers.:rolleyes:
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It speaks volumes about android manufacturers vs Samsung. Also some people value the customer service and support of Apple, which is part of what is being paid for.

The only mainstream Apple-lite experience you can get on Android involves Google's Nexus line with updates and warranty replacements.

Apple's customer service (outside the one store giving me the run-around to sign up for IUP) and support is what I wanted. Can't get anything better for a premium device. I just put aside my demands for certain features and took the 7+ for what it is on IUP!
 

Radon87000

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The "A" is a common letter across both manufacturers.:rolleyes:
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It speaks volumes about android manufacturers vs Samsung. Also some people value the customer service and support of Apple, which is part of what is being paid for.
Google Nexus is the Apple of android literally
 

Michael Goff

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Google Nexus is the Apple of android literally

Mostly. Nexus devices get 24 months of promised version updates and an additional 12 months after of just security. That's 3 years. You can pick up an iPhone 5 and have it run the latest OS. Another thing is that Apple designs the phone down to the chip. Nexus is designed with input from Google, and the innards aren't anything special compared to other phones.

Nexus is the closest Android users get to an iPhone experience, but let's be honest.
 
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Radon87000

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Yeah...literally...
Yes literally

1.Clean OS.Check
2.Timely updates.Check (with an added advantage of ability to downgrade)
3.Google design philiosophy just like iPhone has Apple's design philosophy.Check
4.Reliability and monthly security updates.Check


Mostly. Nexus devices get 24 months of promised version updates and an additional 12 months after of just security. That's 3 years. You can pick up an iPhone 5 and have it run the latest OS. Another thing is that Apple designs the phone down to the chip. Nexus is designed with input from Google, and the innards aren't anything special compared to other phones.

Nexus is the closest Android users get to an iPhone experience, but let's be honest.

If you count unofficial support,Nexus devices last longer than iPhones.Galaxy Nexus from 2011 is still supported with custom Cyanogen Nougat ROM.iPhone 4S will never run iOS 10 unofficially
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
14,725
13,245
UK
Yes literally

1.Clean OS.Check
2.Timely updates.Check (with an added advantage of ability to downgrade)
3.Google design philiosophy just like iPhone has Apple's design philosophy.Check
4.Reliability and monthly security updates.Check




If you count unofficial support,Nexus devices last longer than iPhones.Galaxy Nexus from 2011 is still supported with custom Cyanogen Nougat ROM.iPhone 4S will never run iOS 10 unofficially

Nexus devices only get updated for 2 years and then they are cut off.
 

FFR

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Yes literally

1.Clean OS.Check
2.Timely updates.Check (with an added advantage of ability to downgrade)
3.Google design philiosophy just like iPhone has Apple's design philosophy.Check
4.Reliability and monthly security updates.Check




If you count unofficial support,Nexus devices last longer than iPhones.Galaxy Nexus from 2011 is still supported with custom Cyanogen Nougat ROM.iPhone 4S will never run iOS 10 unofficially

Are you getting a pixel device
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
At first I thought the Note 7 was really head and shoulders better, but the more I gave the iPhone 7+ a chance, I realized that the 7+ is a much better device.

The very little things we "value" seem to be much better on iOS and the 7+: reliability, timely updates, app performance, and no bloat.

While Samsung has bells and whistles, it comes down to how often you use them. I never used multi-window, VR, and other stuff enough to make it worthwhile.

The iPhone 7+ has the better user experience for me with no lag, cleaner software, tons of software updates, better performance, better stand by battery life, and apps work better.

I'm 60/40 between the two, with the edge going to the Note 7.

If I had to choose one, I could live with either. My user habits have changed, I'm not even interested in rooting/jailbreak anymore.

Samsung and Apple has the ability to tip the scale highly in their favor next year. Apple will have to make a more drastic change though.
 
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