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Other Almost everything about the iphone 15 pro was worse than rumoured!
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I appreciate the warning, and understand your concerns, but I sufficiently believe in my technical knowledge to remain optimistic. We will know more in the coming weeks when the hardware details emerge. The key to understanding whether the CPU is good or disappointing will be the clock frequency. Anything below 3.4Ghz would be excellent.
The limitation in data transferral is with the iPhone, although cable selection matters as well. If you select a charging cable you would only get USB 2 speeds, as most cables have that as a minimum for data. Using a data cable would result in the same USB 2 speeds while restricting recharge speeds. Using the cheapest cable yields the worst of both.
So it may be that Apple elected to go with fast charging over data transfer speed. Or it may be that Apple wants its customers to buy more storage and USB-2 speeds may make external storage less desirable.
So it may be that Apple elected to go with fast charging over data transfer speed. Or it may be that Apple wants its customers to buy more storage and USB-2 speeds may make external storage less desirable.
AV1 hardware decode will mean better battery life for those that stream video constantly to their phones, which are likely the majority of us. Ray tracing will only be interesting for those that do gaming, or AR stuff on their phone.
You forgot to mention that YT does av1 only in 4k which is not quite popular on a smaller screen.
Meanwhile it would much better for silicon macs to have it.
Big disappointment. Will be holding on to my (now paid off) 13 Max. Titanium 15 max is actually -heavier- than the 13 SS Max (but lighter than the 14 SS max) which was actually going to be my main motivation for upgrading, I like big phones but i'm so sick of them getting heavier each generation (starting the 6S+). Was really hoping for more weight reduction that would exceed my phone. 13 Max is pretty much my end point, wearing pants that fit perfect then slip down when you add your phone is just downright infuriating. The -15 Plus- weighs far less and does actually interest me (although I'd give up the third camera) but carriers aren't offering deals for it like the pros.
Was also hoping 256GB would become standard at the last base price as I need it but they've priced it the same. Just not my year. I don't feel as upset to not be upgrading as I thought I would be though. Just not interesting.
Was also hoping 256GB would become standard at the last base price as I need it but they've priced it the same. Just not my year. I don't feel as upset to not be upgrading as I thought I would be though. Just not interesting.
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The Apple website says the 15 is USB 2 and the 15 Pro is USB 3.
Yeah, it was also in the keynote:
Additionally, I assume in part because of the above:
Apple said:
Apple Event - September 12
Watch the special Apple Event to learn about iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Pro, Apple Watch Series 9, Apple Watch Ultra 2, and more.To watch the event interpreted in ...
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Bezels are not smaller. The frame is.
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AppleLeaker (@LeakerApple) on X
iPhone 15 Pro’s bezels are noticeably thinner this year. Via: @bencsin
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No, it is not!
iPhone - Compare Models
Compare features and technical specifications for iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, iPhone SE, and many more.
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So, that‘s what the bezels are, right? The „space“ between screen and where the phone ends.Bezels are not smaller. The frame is.
AppleLeaker (@LeakerApple) on X
iPhone 15 Pro’s bezels are noticeably thinner this year. Via: @bencsin
Yeah Samsung isn't variable indeed
Still it's periscopic and allows for much longer zoom
No one is surprised that the the iPhone 15 is underwhelming, it was inevitable.
We reached peak smartphone back in 2020 so there has been close to zero innovation since. The 3 year old iPhone 12 is the iPhone 15 as there isn’t anything substantial or notable to separate them.
If Apple were honest, the iPhone 15 would be named the iPhone 12 SE2.
The 13 is the 12S, the 14 is the 12 SE and the 15 is the 12 SE2. They’re all the same damn phone.
In 3 years, 2011-2014, Apple went from the iPhone 4S to the 6. That was at a time when innovation could happen due to the massive untapped ceiling in smartphone technology. Nowadays, the only superficial thing separating a new iPhone from an older one is the name.
That’s why I won’t be buying a new iPhone. As far as I am concerned, my 13 is still state of the art.
Everything about the design, whether hardware or software, has been settled. Apple are now merely making minor tweaks and adjustments to perfect something that is close to perfect.
We reached peak smartphone back in 2020 so there has been close to zero innovation since. The 3 year old iPhone 12 is the iPhone 15 as there isn’t anything substantial or notable to separate them.
If Apple were honest, the iPhone 15 would be named the iPhone 12 SE2.
The 13 is the 12S, the 14 is the 12 SE and the 15 is the 12 SE2. They’re all the same damn phone.
In 3 years, 2011-2014, Apple went from the iPhone 4S to the 6. That was at a time when innovation could happen due to the massive untapped ceiling in smartphone technology. Nowadays, the only superficial thing separating a new iPhone from an older one is the name.
That’s why I won’t be buying a new iPhone. As far as I am concerned, my 13 is still state of the art.
Everything about the design, whether hardware or software, has been settled. Apple are now merely making minor tweaks and adjustments to perfect something that is close to perfect.
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For those talking about weight/titanium please reference what Apple said about it basically being aluminum on the inside of the chassis with some type of bonding then titanium on the outside for strength/premium feel. Titanium is heavier than aluminum so the weight savings is actually coming from alum. It’s basically an iPhone 15 with titanium outer coating.
I would argue they use the same chassis between the 15 and 15 Pro saving production costs then slap on the titanium coating for Pros. Clever Apple.
I would argue they use the same chassis between the 15 and 15 Pro saving production costs then slap on the titanium coating for Pros. Clever Apple.
Yet for Apple's official 15 Pro/Pro-Max battery life specifications for video playback the figures are identical between the 14 and 15 models. There's a theory I've seen in these forums that Apple deliberately isn't increasing the claimed spec even though it knows the numbers have got better because it is anticipating battery life getting worse again next year (probably due to a move to the less efficient N3E process and slightly larger screens on the Pro models) and it doesn't want to put up the specs this year and then be seen to be going backwards on battery life when it drop them down next year.
I'm pretty disappointed with this year's release after a whole load of rumours that made me think we'd be seeing significant improvements in battery life especially on the Pro models (SoC moving to a 3nm process, Qualcomm Q70 modem, higher capacity batteries, more efficient display drivers) but for some reason that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe the screen has been cost-optimised this year and it's a lot less efficient than last year? But then that wouldn't explain why the audio playback numbers are the same as last year as well. Audio playback is relatively speaking so computationally undemanding that if the rumours of increased mAh batteries turn out to be true, about a 12% increase for the 15 Pro Max was the rumour I think, then I am totally baffled as to why the official battery life specs for audio playback for instance don't at the very least pretty much directly reflect whatever percentage increase there is in the mAh battery capacity.
If the batteries are bigger this year then surely either Apple is deliberately not changing the spec to reflect actual battery life improvements this year or else something else is a lot less efficient than it was last year?
It was nice to see an Apple materials scientist explaining it. I really wish that team could find a way to move away from glass backs though. The weight difference between the iPhone 4/4s and the iPhone 5/5s was really noticeable and I think a lot of that was the move away from the glass back to aluminium. Of course now Apple has wireless charging to contend with which really restricts the material choices for the back, and Apple would insist on whatever is used looking very premium, but I would think you need to be pretty much at the top of your game to land a job as a material scientist at a company of Apple's prominence and Apple has big R&D budgets so I'm not giving up hope that maybe one day we might get a phone that doesn't use glass for the back.
Im not sure. Could be lots coming 256gb bass storage, more mega pixels for other cameras, still no 8k video. A foldable phone could have been a game changer but I still think they would need to sell non folding ones. Yes updates are smaller and phones stay the same for longer I agree but I still see more innovation in the future. Maybe even 3D/Virtual really better linking to games consoles or DLSR photo quality. If they keep going with small updates iPhone sales will drop off like ipad. People will update less as someone said phone contracts in UK are often 36 months now. I’m using an iPhone 11 whilst I wait for the 15 as I sold my Pro and the 11 is a very good phone. I actually can’t tell much difference using vs 14 pro.
A disappointment for sure. I'm curious to feel the titanium build on the 15 Pro Max to see how much lighter it actually feels. Outside of the build, it's essentially the same phone from last year with some minor hardware tweaks that most people will never notice in day to day usage.
On a side note, that has to be the most awkward, flattest, boring keynote Apple has given in a long time. It honestly felt like they didn't have anything to talk about so they tried to wow us with a bunch of techno speak to take up time. I get they do that to a point every year, but this year it really seemed overblown. Plus that Mother Nature bit was painful to sit through. I love Apple, but I cannot stand how they constantly pat themselves on the back for their environmental work. Just do it and shut up about it.
On a side note, that has to be the most awkward, flattest, boring keynote Apple has given in a long time. It honestly felt like they didn't have anything to talk about so they tried to wow us with a bunch of techno speak to take up time. I get they do that to a point every year, but this year it really seemed overblown. Plus that Mother Nature bit was painful to sit through. I love Apple, but I cannot stand how they constantly pat themselves on the back for their environmental work. Just do it and shut up about it.
IMO, a boring year. And just saw they did away with the leather cases (or did I read it wrong?).