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Android has gained significant market share in key markets.
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I completely agree with your point that "economics are indeed likely the biggest factor in the sway of marketshare". That is why iOS does not dominate the Russian smartphone market.
This is how the Russsian smartphone market looked in 2015 (January - August) according to Kantar (Source):
Android vs iOS market share in 2015 according to DeviceAtlas (Source):
The iOS 9.3.3 beta thread disagrees with you.
We all know ymmv and people have been reporting good things with this beta on the i6.
Why are you arguing with Radon, a guy who hates iOS? Everything stutters and is bad, or so it seems.
Agreed... You only have to look at a posters history and you get a clear picture from their pattern of posts if they have a modus operandi. You don't even have to read the post because you know exactly what it's going to be regardless of thread discussion ... It's easier just to ignore them and move on as you will never have a rational discussion.
What I do find more interesting however and perhaps telling about other posters bias and such, is observing those posters who then go on and up vote these troll-like posters because their rants suit their own biases ... Which sadly then encourages more of the nonsense posts & behaviour rather than ignoring and not giving them the attention they seek.
On the contrary iPhone 6 was at its best on iOS 8.4.1 .iOS 9 has stuttery animations every now and then which annoys me to no end.I am very sensitive to frame drops.Some people can stand less than 60 frames on games.I cannot which is why I always end up with dual video cards.
If you want an example of a annoying stutter,turn of your iPhone and iPad.Turn it on.Always there is an animation skip as the icons place themselves on the screen.Rapidly swiping between the icons does have skips every now and then.Scrolling down the list of Apps in Mobile data has been stuttering for over an year now.
I am not trolling..I would actually love to speed up the animations so I wont observe many of these skips if only Apple allowed me to.
In the end ,I dont care what anyone says.My iPhone 6 was very smooth on iOS 8.4.1.Even my iPad Air 2 felt overpowered on iOS 8 which isnt the case in iOS 9
Battery life is also not great with moderate usage albeit better than previous builds
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A simple google search showed me this on iOS 9.3
http://forums.imore.com/ios-9/359982-ios-9-3-scrolling-lag.html
http://forums.imore.com/ios-9/359027-ios-9-3-my-iphone-6-very-slow.html
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7514252?start=0&tstart=0
https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/44akb4/is_anyones_iphone_6_plus_lagging_on_ios_93_pb2/
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I notice you deflected and didn't quote anything from the MR 9.3.3 beta 3 thread; which is what I was referring to.On the contrary iPhone 6 was at its best on iOS 8.4.1 .iOS 9 has stuttery animations every now and then which annoys me to no end.I am very sensitive to frame drops.Some people can stand less than 60 frames on games.I cannot which is why I always end up with dual video cards.
If you want an example of a annoying stutter,turn of your iPhone and iPad.Turn it on.Always there is an animation skip as the icons place themselves on the screen.Rapidly swiping between the icons does have skips every now and then.Scrolling down the list of Apps in Mobile data has been stuttering for over an year now.
I am not trolling..I would actually love to speed up the animations so I wont observe many of these skips if only Apple allowed me to.
In the end ,I dont care what anyone says.My iPhone 6 was very smooth on iOS 8.4.1.Even my iPad Air 2 felt overpowered on iOS 8 which isnt the case in iOS 9
Battery life is also not great with moderate usage albeit better than previous builds
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A simple google search showed me this on iOS 9.3
http://forums.imore.com/ios-9/359982-ios-9-3-scrolling-lag.html
http://forums.imore.com/ios-9/359027-ios-9-3-my-iphone-6-very-slow.html
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7514252?start=0&tstart=0
https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/44akb4/is_anyones_iphone_6_plus_lagging_on_ios_93_pb2/
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I try, that's all I can say.
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Thanks, Q1 2015 is over a year ago. Maybe the Kantar data more up to date?
Possibly, but as I say it was more a point of countering a vast assumption / generalisation that everywhere outside of America iOS was vastly behind android which clearly isn't the case everywhere at all.
They have current up to date stats actually on their site.
https://deviceatlas.com/device-data/explorer
What's interesting is how the most popular devices on Android and iOS are generally not the very latest flagships at all.
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I completely agree with your point that "economics are indeed likely the biggest factor in the sway of marketshare". That is why iOS does not dominate the Russian smartphone market.
This is how the Russsian smartphone market looked in 2015 (January - August) according to Kantar (Source):
Android vs iOS market share in 2015 according to DeviceAtlas (Source):
I wonder what the difference is between France, Norway, and Sweden compared to the rest of the continent.
Indeed, alongside Uk, Ireland, Belgium and Iceland.
Very much seems to be a Northern Europe divide ...
If it was merely economic divide (richer vs poorer countries) then we would assume Germany & Denmark would also be blue on that map as that would be all the more prosperous & stable EU countries compared to the rest, but they aren't.
We would need more metrics with demographics, employment status and even local cultural differences etc .. Before they could say one way or the other as to why, but as all these companies who currently pull up numbers look at individual aspects (market share / web usage etc..) rather than all the specific metrics from each country, we will never get a true analysis of the question as to 'why', but merely just 'as it stands'.
Essentially as much data is out there, its simply not enough to answer the question why? definitively.
Just because YOU and some others saw performance increase doesn't mean everyone did.iOS 8.4.1 was still faster.I personally still see stutter every now and then.Its the reason I am selling off the phone even if iphone 7 is not compelling enough
And on the other hand, just because YOU did not see a performance increase doesnt mean one didn't happen. And because YOU don't think it's faster than 8.4.1 doesn't mean others don't see it that way. And we all have been through perception vs reality.
Is that kind of like the arguments that were made about iOS 9 being worse than iOS 8 and the comments thrown at people who didn't see that that those people simply didn't see it and that's all, but the decline was there? So by the same logic perhaps the improvements are there and some people are just not seeing them? Can't really logically have one but not the other, right?
That said, why is yet another thread unrelated to any of this getting derailed with this discussion that has been beaten to death multiple times since iOS 9 was released?
How can people who never saw the lag in the first place see performance improvements?For instance i7Guy was completely fine with the first version of iOS 9 when nearly 60% in the poll on 9to5 reported it much slower than iOS 8
Im not sure how anyone could not see the performance issues with ios9 initially. It was a clear step down, BUT ios 9.3 to me is overall better then ios8. It took some time for apple to smooth ios9 out.
A lot of people including myself thought apple made older devices laggy on purpose to upgrade. This turned out to be false because my 6 Plus is better now then before.
So basically the logical "conundrum" that I posed still stands it would seem.
I feel like apple is turning the tide with this. It was true for certain devices in the past - iphone 4 and iphone 4s w/ my experience. But now, I think apple is doing better. Support/updates are a major reason to go iOS for me.
my wifes iphone 5 is quite good on 9.3.x, now is it as perfect as it was on ios 6? probably not... but the updates are well worth it IMO. in this case we probably wouldnt downgrade even if we could
The ability to downgrade iOS is the only missing piece of the puzzle for me. And knowing apples obsession with control, that is a pipe dream
Yup the iPhone 5 a phone from 2012 runs fine on 9.3. Eventually the law of diminishing returns applies here.
Apple being investigated on Samsung's home turf? Very hush-hush about the details. Wonder what this is about...
Apple is being investigated by the South Korean government
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-is-being-investigated-by-the-South-Korean-government_id82657
Apple is being investigated by the South Korean government
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-is-being-investigated-by-the-South-Korean-government_id82657