Android in Decline?

[Steve Adams]

As someone who has recently moved across, what features are you using now that you couldn’t on iOS? What are you enjoying the most?

I love the customization, the openess to my windows computers with "your phone", the ability to have reliable signal and get all my notifications. Ability to have more integration with wearables, speakers etc with full features instead of gimped usage with iOS because I never bought apple crap, expandable storage options, no itunes, better camera arrays, USB C port, better screen to body ratios....I could go on with more.

 

[HALE101]

Here in Canada (Toronto area) I see about a 65/35 split in favor of iPhones . The android phones I do see tho are typically cheaper ones.

 

[Zaft]

I love the customization, the openess to my windows computers with "your phone", the ability to have reliable signal and get all my notifications. Ability to have more integration with wearables, speakers etc with full features instead of gimped usage with iOS because I never bought apple crap, expandable storage options, no itunes, better camera arrays, USB C port, better screen to body ratios....I could go on with more.

I admit there are times when IOS is frustrating with some of the restrictions. But overall for me IOS is better.

I was always jealous of AOD on Android and I’m glad that and 120hz is coming this fall.

the differences between iOS and Android continue to shrink.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I doubt you'll notice 120hz much on an iPhone. Now, on an Android, it's akin to having the smoothness and that buttery scrolling that iPhones have had since 2007. Android has always had the 'stutters' and 'jitters' and 120hz is the only thing that's made it on par with iOS. That was always one thing about Apple that I missed on Android.

 

[Zaft]

I doubt you'll notice 120hz much on an iPhone. Now, on an Android, it's akin to having the smoothness and that buttery scrolling that iPhones have had since 2007. Android has always had the 'stutters' and 'jitters' and 120hz is the only thing that's made it on par with iOS. That was always one thing about Apple that I missed on Android.

Playing around with an iPad Pro I can tell immediately. Is it a deal breaker? No, but it’s nice eye candy.

 

[LFC2020]

better camera arrays,

Better cameras 🤦‍♂️😂 far from it.

 

[One2Grift]

Ah I see... Android will likely take an upward swing as more people on Earth enter the smartphone world.

But then what?

There are already three Android phones sold for every one iPhone... and Android's smartphone installed base is a similar amount more than the iPhone as well.

So what is Android gonna do with ~90% market share that they can't already do with ~70% market share?

I'm not doubting your numbers... they make perfect sense when you consider more of the under-developed world is getting online.

I'm just wondering what the results will be.

That’s a really really! good question. I (obviously) favor iOS but previous to 1.5 years ago I would have been better than ok if I ended up using an Android phone. Not now. It isn’t at all the interface or hardware options, it’s mainly because of what I now know about the privacy security issue. Good news, I ‘think’ Google will eventually get there (because of Apple, Linux, and others forcing them) but it’ll likely be a year or two or three. They’re majorly! dragging their feet while they figure out how to continue to get this insanely detailed advertisement sales metrics/info (best on the planet) without tracking users to a shocking degree. On that item, Facebook is arguably A LOT worse. Ultimately how this multi hundred billion industry was allowed to happen via highly detailed tracking of people? Imho It’s not right and needs to stop/users are aware and have privacy options.

The upside is Android is open source. I believe that makes a Microsoft circa 2000 ‘virtual monopoly’ that saw sometimes crap software forced onto users unlikely to happen with Android.
But Until there are indelible, rock solid privacy security options in the Android code, Google owning 90+% of the web search traffic and nearing 90% of the mobile os (counting Chromebooks, likely over 50% of every device OS), it should be concerning to anyone.
When a user can easily secure privacy, and anti predatory business law is enforced(on Google, Apple, any big business), it’s far less concerning to me about Google’s dominant position. But it’d be better for us consumers if there is at least one viable second option. iOS is that viable option. I suspect a more viable consolidated web search competitor will appear soon too. Regardless, on mobile OS and web searching Google is and will be the Giant in the room. Every other company will look upward at them on those two items — until such time some young upstart company comes along and completely disrupts how it’s done.

 

[LFC2020]

I suspect a more viable consolidated web search competitor will appear soon too. Regardless, on mobile OS and web searching Google is and will be the Giant in the room. Every other company will look upward at them on those two items — until such time some young upstart company comes along and completely disrupts how it’s done.

Might happen sooner than you think. 😎

 

[MarkX]

Might happen sooner than you think.

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It won't be available anytime soon that's for sure. Creating a usable search engine will take time from my research.

 

[LFC2020]

Here in Canada (Toronto area) I see about a 65/35 split in favor of iPhones . The android phones I do see tho are typically cheaper ones.

Most of the android market share is the $50 phones you find at your local supermarket lol.

Here in Australia it’s 95/5 in favor of iPhones.

 

[Steve Adams]

Better cameras 🤦‍♂️😂 far from it.

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BLinded by apple my freind. If you look closely from a photo from an iphone it looks like a paint by number water color with no detail. If you go ultra wide, you get barrel distortion so bad that I cannot even fix it completely with PP. I have an 11, and I am a photogrpaher. The camera is NOT the best. Not by a long shot.

 

[The Game 161]

I would say the 12 pro max is as good as camera as most out there. It certainly lacks in zoom and micro at present but I would still say it’s the most consistent for point and shoot and for pets and kids it’s better than the competition. Only the pixel is comparable for me in these areas

Phones like the s21 ultra has more options for sure though so has a better range for different shots

 

[The Game 161]

I admit there are times when IOS is frustrating with some of the restrictions. But overall for me IOS is better.

I was always jealous of AOD on Android and I’m glad that and 120hz is coming this fall.

the differences between iOS and Android continue to shrink.

I think iOS has caught up in a lot of areas. Things missing is really better zoom, micro. Spilt screen on iPhone and interactive widgets. I have been using my 21 ultra and 12 pro max side by side and I pretty much use them both for the same thing so really the daily tasks you do will be the same on both phones. Ultra is more pleasing with interactive widgets and placing apps where I want but the iPhone feels more polished with apps

Camera wise I would say the ultra gives more options with amazing zoom and more modes. iPhone still better for point and shoot. I think Samsung phones will always struggle if you want a quick shot though

 

[One2Grift]

Might happen sooner than you think. 😎

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LFC, great post. But one thing to add to it (based solely on what I heard/innuendo — so take it FWIW): Apple’s search engine idea was just a negotiating tactic, a ruse. Google is the mega giant in the mobile os and web search room. But Apple is a mega giant on steroids for mid/higher end personal consumer smart electronics with an almost singularly very loyal user base of approximately 700,000,000. This gives Apple the ability to say to Google: we’ll make DuckDuckGo the default search engine on safari, while we create our own search engine. The only real thing Google can say back to Apple: Please! don’t do that.
Apple threatened the search engine through friendly media contacts, Google blanked, the renegotiation pays Apple 10b mostly just to make Safari’s default search engine Google (it’s so easy to change that, I did to DDG, yet Google pays that staggering amount just to be the default).

 

[Klyster]

Most of the android market share is the $50 phones you find at your local supermarket lol.

Here in Australia it’s 95/5 in favor of iPhones.

since when did 55% become 95%?

Samsung is on 23% ....

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Wouldn't expect any less though, making crap up as usual.......

 

[LFC2020]

since when did 55% become 95%?

Samsung is on 23% ....

Mobile Vendor Market Share Australia | Statcounter Global Stats

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Samsung is becoming extinct in Australia, hardly see anyone using a Samsung phone these days. 😅

 

[Klyster]

Samsung is becoming extinct in Australia, hardly see anyone using a Samsung phone these days. 😅

Enjoy returning your phone lol.

 

[LFC2020]

Enjoy returning your phone lol.

Will do, always great customer service at apple. 😃 Another 3 people that I know have dumped their Samsung for a iPhone, the ship is sinking very quickly.

 

[Steve Adams]

Will do, always great customer service at apple. 😃 Another 3 people that I know have dumped their Samsung for a iPhone, the ship is sinking very quickly.

Lay off the kool-aid. Seeing as samsung is Number one in overall smartphone sales above your almighty apple. Their ship is afloat just fine.

 

[Steve Adams]

Samsung is becoming extinct in Australia, hardly see anyone using a Samsung phone these days. 😅

Yes. every report is wrong and you are right. wow, you are AWESOME.

 

[Klyster]

Enjoy returning your phone lol.

Will do, always great customer service at apple. 😃 Another 3 people that I know have dumped their Samsung for a iPhone, the ship is sinking very quickly.

I thought you said you don't see people using Samsung phones?

Yet here's another three people you know ditching Samsung phones for iphones, lol.

You've repeated this quite a few times over the last 6 months, it's kind of contradictory, unless you mean the same three people each time, and even then, you're contradicting yourself and exaggerating.

Personally, if I'd had crushed blacks like you had, I wouldn't have put up with it for as long as you have, I gotta say your loyalty is admirable, if not a little over the top.

Good luck with the August update. 🤞

 

[Klyster]

I would say the 12 pro max is as good as camera as most out there. It certainly lacks in zoom and micro at present but I would still say it’s the most consistent for point and shoot and for pets and kids it’s better than the competition. Only the pixel is comparable for me in these areas

Phones like the s21 ultra has more options for sure though so has a better range for different shots

I wish my S21 Ultra had the video quality of the 12 series, Apple kills with video quality.

I'm absolutely happy with my photo quality though, I can't really fault it at all.

 

[The Game 161]

I wish my S21 Ultra had the video quality of the 12 series, Apple kills with video quality.

I'm absolutely happy with my photo quality though, I can't really fault it at all.

For sure, images on both are amazing. I do prefer night mode on the ultra. If I was to take videos I would use my iPhone. Don't think I've really used video on the ultra.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think iOS has caught up in a lot of areas. Things missing is really better zoom, micro. Spilt screen on iPhone and interactive widgets. I have been using my 21 ultra and 12 pro max side by side and I pretty much use them both for the same thing so really the daily tasks you do will be the same on both phones. Ultra is more pleasing with interactive widgets and placing apps where I want but the iPhone feels more polished with apps

Camera wise I would say the ultra gives more options with amazing zoom and more modes. iPhone still better for point and shoot. I think Samsung phones will always struggle if you want a quick shot though

I think the ultra has really improved camera wise. It now takes good pictures of my kids. The video isn't that far off the iPhone quality. The zoom and macro features make it more versatile.

I think the ultra has a more pleasing screen for watching videos. Also I like being able to do true multitasking on my S21 ultra. Having two apps open is great. The Spen is a great addition too.

 

[The Game 161]

I think the ultra has really improved camera wise. It now takes good pictures of my kids. The video isn't that far off the iPhone quality. The zoom and macro features make it more versatile.

I think the ultra has a more pleasing screen for watching videos. Also I like being able to do true multitasking on my S21 ultra. Having two apps open is great. The Spen is a great addition too.

Yeah if I’m going to watch content on my phone I will tend to pick up the ultra. I don’t use spilt screen very much but it’s useful when you need it. I dunno how using both phones will last but I enjoy switching to each other I must admit.