absolutely disgusting. We are all hypocrites arent we?
We are against slave labor yet we own iphones.
We are against slave labor yet we own iphones.
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Angry Protests Break Out at Key iPhone Factory in China [Updated]
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If it's a contractual issue between Apple and FoxConn, maybe apple has some leverage. If it's a management issue that lies within FoxConn being driven by the government, I wouldn't think Apple has much pull.
No, but amazon workers are service industry and easily trained and replaceable. Manufacturing jobs require much more skill and training, on top of this the investment in plant and equipment makes building factories in the US much more risky. So when you add all the costs up it definitely makes more sense to manufacture where labor is more readily available (cheapest). If America wants to bring manufacturing back, which we absolutely must do if we want to maintain our current standard of living, we have to become much more business friendly.
I agree with everything you said and wish more people understood this. Maybe then apple store and starbucks employees wouldn't be so quick to unionize. 👍🙏
Hehe this reads like e.g. posting that Putin is innocent by referring to russia today.There is no disagreement. Apple has gone further than profits. Have a read. If you feel this isn't far enough, so be it.
Apple marks a year of giving in the communities it calls home
Apple’s employee donation and volunteering program raises nearly $725 million over the last decade.www.apple.com
And its easy, just keep your iPhone longer, even when stop getting new releases of iOS or similar device. That will also help with things like inflation. The constant upgrading is whats driving this insanity.
“those who are fortunate enough to work for Apple are having it much better”
… pretty much the same sentiment that drives and has driven slavery and capitalism in every country for hundreds of years
…cf. “ we have a special relationship with our slaves…” say slaveowners in the US south
…” she’s not a servant, she’s our helper,” says my friend in Lebanon and similarly many other countries about their migrant “workers”
Apple/Foxconn tried bonuses up to 4X the standard pay and the workers still left the plant. There is more to this than the article reports. A story circulated at the plant late last month that eight workers living in a dorm room (!) were all found dead. Whether true or not, this sparked a panic among the kids in the dormitories and Foxconn lost control. Now the CCP has come in heavy-handed and is just making the situation worse.
China is determined to compete with the United States. That means anything goes. They are pushing their population to production levels that are unsustainable. They are building up their military in ways that are unaffordable. Their space program is a luxury they can't afford.
The French Revolution, the fall of the Czar, then the Soviet Union...you can't build a superpower on the backs of the population without eventual pushback.
The French Revolution, the fall of the Czar, then the Soviet Union...you can't build a superpower on the backs of the population without eventual pushback.
If the CCP keeps pushing, they will be fired...in front of a firing squad. Revolutions are rarely peaceful.
A mass exodus of youth leaving Foxconn factories just under 2 weeks ago ... walking 2 full days and nights to reach home!
facing the shame of their home townsfolk as they didn't stick to the hard labour.
Leaving due to 8 ... 8 youths whom just died in their dormitory (either form dreadful working hours literary working to death or due to COVID; as no real 'herd-immunity' ever developed there; I hate that terminology).
Simply VERY sad ... US military support barracks (non-base) are better living conditions!
heck some USA jails look cleaner - i'm not kidding!
Its not just Apple products that Foxconn assembles yet it's always Apple's Foxconn employees that are leaving, suffering etc. NEVER any other client like Oppo, RealMe, Samsung, Sony, etc. why?!
They ALL need to get conditions changed for the better or at least move to another country for assembly and IMPROVE from the start there. I wonder if something much deeper is going on there from upper management of Foxconn.
Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., Ltd., trading as Hon Hai Technology Group in China and Taiwan and Foxconn internationally, is a Taiwanese multinational electronics contract manufacturer established in 1974 with headquarters in Tucheng, New Taipei City, Taiwan.
After all many Foxconn assemblies are China.
Sold apple again already around 151. I expect it’ll tank from here. iPhone sales will take a beating. Pick it back up next year.
To be technical, this is Foxconn issue, not Apple, and Foxconn is an OEM for many other companies other than Apple.
Oh, and Foxconn is also a Taiwanese company, and like it or not, some if these Taiwanese companies are quite stingy in emerging markets (like in my country).
Obviously the ultra strict policies from the Chinese government is not helping, but let's take a step back to see who the real players are instead of merely rehashing the headlines and pointing finger at Apple.
Lol. I’m just worrying about iPhones not shipping til January. Imagine the folks whose Christmas will be ruined. Now that’s sad.
This is not about slavery. I hope people stop misusing that word for irrelevant things.
The issue here is that the workers are stuck, locked inside the factory for weeks/months due to the Chinese government's ultra strict rule. Things would've been okay if they were provided with proper amenities and food, but apparently they are not. Contracts/payments were changed despite the promise (based on the reports). That what's causing the workers to do what they do.
And yes, we have many expats from China here, sharing horror stories of they got locked down inide their own apartment. Basically if the lockdown happened, the ones in the inside cannot go out, and the ones who happen to be outside cannot go in. You cannot even go out to buy food (unlike in some countries where you're still allowed to go out and buy necessities). And they were only provided with some rice, some spring onion, and eggs as their food. And it can last for weeks or months.
By not expecting labour to be cheap outside of Western countries.
China will eventually reach wage parity with the West. In some White collar jobs, like in Finance and Engineering they already have.
China is having a rapid population decline as Chinese people are emigrating, not getting married and having less or no babies as they become increasingly well educated. The Gen Zs are like, we aren't having it, meee more important, meee, meee!
India is far more explitative. China is socialist, meaning the political system potects the poor and robs the rich. It's not doing that very efficiently because overdoing it will make everyone poor as business goes elsewhere. India is just as corrupt and inefficient, but the political system is in the palm of the rich for the rich. They also have a caste system to make sure that low-borns will always have low-born kids.