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The iPhone 4S was the only device that had Siri when it launched, and it had no backwards compatibility at all. They still sold 60 million of them.
Plus, by the time competent Siri launches, alongside all the other AI stuff, there will be a new family of iPhones to buy.
 
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What you’re describing is more akin to what fabs do. Apple does easier, high-level stuff like core count, core size, etc. it’s not hard to list a spec sheet.

In our analogy, Apple would be the customer picking the size and the toppings with barely any technical know-how (Which anyone can do) while the fab works on the harder, intricate details of the pizza.
Right, so Apple bought P.A. Semiconductor for $250 million because they needed someone to order a bunch of specs. Your ignorance here is ASTOUNDING.
 
I really do not like the name "Apple Intelligence," just sounds...funny? I dunno.

Very excited to have a new, actually somewhat intelligent Siri. I avoid using the current Siri like the plague.
 
I wonder will Apple Intelligence will also be extended so it works with A16 SoC. It might just happen with a later beta of iOS 18. In short, you need at minimum an iPhone 15 Pro for it to work. And even the upcoming iPhone 16/16 Plus will support it due to the A18 SoC being a subset of the A18 Pro SoC likely used on the iPhone 16 Pro/16 Pro Max models.
 
Apple handled AI as perfectly as I could expect. As long as everything works as they said, it sounds like this is the absolute best AI experience on any platform. I doubt anyone can seriously disagree,
 
They want this to be the future but they also want to make sure that most people today can't use it. That's wild.
Not really, there is a reason why Microsoft requires all windows copilot+ PCs to have minimum 45 TOPs and 16GB RAM to enable similar features. A17 Pro has 35 TOPS vs A16 17 TOPS, A15 15.8 TOPS. But also equally important is RAM, iPhone 15 Pro has 8GB of RAM, devices below that have just 6GB. They are trying to do as much on device as possible.
 
That's like claiming anything that's a GPU can pump out 4k visuals.
They even mentioned the ability to use cloud processing which makes this argument doubly ridiculous. You can bet that even on the latest A17 devices it'll be reaching out to the cloud a lot, and probably not much more than it would be on A16 and A15. But even if some queries may take twice as long on my A15 as a brand new A17 due to having slower on-chip processing, who cares honestly, as long as it works...
 
Or...they still work the way they do today, which you seemed to be happy about before. 🤔
Unreleased software updates instantly make existing hardware useless! Are you new here? Someone’s 14 Pro just became as useless as an XR based on an earlier message!

Us Apple users are a salty bunch, it seems. :D
 
Unreleased software updates instantly make existing hardware useless! Are you new here? Someone’s 14 Pro just became as useless as an XR based on an earlier message!

Us Apple users are a salty bunch, it seems. :D
Yeah no kidding -- if that feature means that much to you, just upgrade this fall. I feel like the non-pro iPhone 16 will have this capability because they want it across all of their new family of devices this year.
 
Integrating ARM processors isn’t a technical feat. Windows needs to consider legacy software while Apple doesn’t. It is easier for a far less popular platform with far less 3rd party support to break compatibility with legacy software by moving architectures than it is a mainstream platform with 10000000X support.

Apple Silicon is a TSMC technical achievement, not Apple. Apple is a repackager that can’t engineer themselves out of a plastic bag. Truth hurts.

Apple’s history and business model is about being popular and having high sales volume to get good deals from suppliers. They don’t actually develop any of the technology they use in their products.
Oh, there's no technical feat involved with rewriting an OS to run on ARM? The only one that seems to be hurting form the truth here is you...but you want it to somehow hurt someone else.

The fact you think that Apple doesn't develop the technology they use tells me you know just about zero about all of this and are coming in with a fixed bias...I think there's a term for that...hmm.
 
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Shame on you, Apple. My iPhone 14 Pro Max, which I purchased just one year ago, no longer supports Apple Intelligence. It's disappointing that the "most advanced iPhone ever" from just one year ago has the same software capabilities as an iPhone XR from 2018.

It’s a shame that Apple software announcements retroactively made your phone less powerful. I wish Apple would stop dabbing in their dark magic to neuter existing capabilities in existing devices!

Also, “no longer supports” implies that your phone ever DID support it. Is this another instance of time travel neutering?
 
How exactly will this work? If you have a device that isn’t supported iOS 18 and macOS Sequoia just don’t surface it to you? You get the existing Siri interface?

Also, it will work with 4 year old M1 devices but won’t work with an iPhone released last year? Crazy. You’d think they could at least have a ‘lite’ version for older hardware.
 
It's literally a carbon copy of what Google and Microsoft have had for years now. Wow. The good times at Apple are over for good. They have no more ideas.
 
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It’s not selling out. It’s just ChatGPT letting Apple use their technology on their OS. It has zilch to do with any technical or innovative work on Apple’s end. My issue is that they’re lying by omission and pretending they did the inventing.

The name “Apple Intelligence” is so insufferable and blatantly misleading.
The chat GPT integration and Apple Intelligence are completely different. And Apple did do the work on Apple Intelligence, making it far more useful than just making a chat bot. There’s no misleading here.
 
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How exactly will this work? If you have a device that isn’t supported iOS 18 and macOS Sequoia just don’t surface it to you? You get the existing Siri interface?
My guess is that Siri gets the visual update across the OS, but what types of requests it can handle depend on the hardware.
 
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Integrating ARM processors isn’t a technical feat. Windows needs to consider legacy software while Apple doesn’t. It is easier for a far less popular platform with far less 3rd party support to break compatibility with legacy software by moving architectures than it is a mainstream platform with 10000000X support.

Apple Silicon is a TSMC technical achievement, not Apple. Apple is a repackager that can’t engineer themselves out of a plastic bag. Truth hurts.

Apple’s history and business model is about being popular and having high sales volume to get good deals from suppliers. They don’t actually develop any of the technology they use in their products.
I'll say this as nicely as I can: stop embarrassing yourself. We're not laughing with you, just so you know.

Apple is not even using regular ARM-designed cores, they're a full-blown ARM ISA licensee, meaning, their chips aren't necessarily compatible with other ARM chips.

For sure, virtualising other ARM-based OSes on Apple Silicon chips will always be faster than emulating chips with different ISAs, but that's only part of the equation… We may see an ever-growing split between Qualcomm and Samsung chips on the PC side and Apple chips on the other, despite all of them being possibly fabricated by TSMC, just because they have different designs and their OSes different requirements to go with them.

AFAIK, only Intel designs and produces its own chips, with even AMD using its now spun-off fab branch GlobalFoundries instead of owning its own fabs.
 
As far as I know they’re the only ones doing it mostly on device without sharing your personal data to subsidize the cost for “free” or for advertising purposes. Once again, with Apple you’re NOT the product.

They deserve a lot of credit for that.
Sorry to disappoint you, but their Apple Intelligence does not more on-device than Samsung's Advanced Intelligence does. Apple is just pretending to do more than the others. It is mostly a copy of Samsung features anyway.
 
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