Other Apple robbed my iPhone today

[Radon87000]

Those forced updates are planned obsolescence

 

[617660]

Has anyone thought the reason for these nag screens is to make life easier for app developers?

Well. Easier to convince users to update when it's labeled "feature enhancement".

 

[dominiongamma]

They’ve been fighting hard with nagging screens, and finally they managed to fool me and this time I pushed the accept button instead of the cancel one (I don’t know if they changed the left/right position of the buttons, but they fooled me).

Then, they didn’t ask for a confirmation. I got the button wrong and the iOS update started without asking for a confirmation. This turned my iPhone non-operational for about 20 minutes, which I consider an insult and a really dirty (really dirty, Apple) practice: Imagine I had to do an important call during those 20 minutes: Shouldn’t you ask me to confirm if I can afford to upgrade in this moment? What if I had to do a business call and I misinterpreted your dirty (excrement-dirty) nagging screen?

They robbed my iPhone. Now it’s iOS 11. Very valuable apps and games don’t work anymore (and they had important files on them)

Apple, what you did to me tonight falls in the phishing practices category: I’ve said NO dozens of times to the nagging screen. Finally you fooled me to click the button you wanted. My iPhone belongs to you. What do you want next. My car? My house? My bank account? What’s up with you Apple, why are you the dirtiest company on Earth today?

I was hoping for a 14inch MacBook or for the future modular Mac Pro, but I’m so upset that I think I’m not going to buy any other product from you anymore. This is not what I thought of you, Apple. Enough is enough.

I question the whole story I’m calling it a fake story

 

[Mansu944]

They’ve been fighting hard with nagging screens, and finally they managed to fool me and this time I pushed the accept button instead of the cancel one (I don’t know if they changed the left/right position of the buttons, but they fooled me).

Then, they didn’t ask for a confirmation. I got the button wrong and the iOS update started without asking for a confirmation. This turned my iPhone non-operational for about 20 minutes, which I consider an insult and a really dirty (really dirty, Apple) practice: Imagine I had to do an important call during those 20 minutes: Shouldn’t you ask me to confirm if I can afford to upgrade in this moment? What if I had to do a business call and I misinterpreted your dirty (excrement-dirty) nagging screen?

They robbed my iPhone. Now it’s iOS 11. Very valuable apps and games don’t work anymore (and they had important files on them)

Apple, what you did to me tonight falls in the phishing practices category: I’ve said NO dozens of times to the nagging screen. Finally you fooled me to click the button you wanted. My iPhone belongs to you. What do you want next. My car? My house? My bank account? What’s up with you Apple, why are you the dirtiest company on Earth today?

I was hoping for a 14inch MacBook or for the future modular Mac Pro, but I’m so upset that I think I’m not going to buy any other product from you anymore. This is not what I thought of you, Apple. Enough is enough.

ummm, relax man.

 

[asiga]

I question the whole story I’m calling it a fake story

So the score has changed from joke to fake... It seems I'm explaining myself better, as you were laughing the first day, but today you prefer not to believe it rather than laughing.

I guess you updated to iOS 11 the day it was released, so it's obvious you cannot confirm that the "update to iOS 11" nagging screen has increased to twice-a-week frequency recently, and that no matter how many times you delete the update, it will be downloaded again, and the nagging screen will appear again... until you accept it, or until Apple manages to fool you, like in my case.

 

[MacDevil7334]

I guess my question is, if you’re not willing to switch to Android, what else is there to be gained from this thread? With the demise of Windows mobile, Android is really the only other viable game in town. If you don’t want to switch, you are accepting Apple as your best option. Apple doesn’t read these forums. You can send feedback directly to Apple but posting long rants here does nothing.

 

[617660]

So the score has changed from joke to fake... It seems I'm explaining myself better, as you were laughing the first day, but today you prefer not to believe it rather than laughing.

I guess you updated to iOS 11 the day it was released, so it's obvious you cannot confirm that the "update to iOS 11" nagging screen has increased to twice-a-week frequency recently, and that no matter how many times you delete the update, it will be downloaded again, and the nagging screen will appear again... until you accept it, or until Apple manages to fool you, like in my case.

In case you missed a solution from a member earlier, google up tvOS beta ... there is a workaround to avoid the nag screens but it's too late for you now.

 

[ftaok]

I guess my question is, if you’re not willing to switch to Android, what else is there to be gained from this thread? With the demise of Windows mobile, Android is really the only other viable game in town. If you don’t want to switch, you are accepting Apple as your best option. Apple doesn’t read these forums. You can send feedback directly to Apple but posting long rants here does nothing.

Sometimes you just want to rant and find others to commiserate with you. And if enough people feel the same, you get that validated feeling. We can all understand this, right? Sometimes it's therapeutic to scream into the storm, even if you know that the storm isn't going to do anything different.

Disclosure - I'm not a psychologist, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[asiga]

In case you missed a solution from a member earlier, google up tvOS beta ... there is a workaround to avoid the nag screens but it's too late for you now.

I did mention that workaround here.

 

[tkukoc]

Oh, sure, a nagging screen twice a week (yes, recently it rose to twice a week) in which a mistake doesn’t ask for a confirmation is not robbing. And how on Earth is not robbing if they stole iOS10 without my consent, and they would kept trying forever until I upgrade?

The apps that no longer work on IOS 11 are still on the phone. Depending what type of file it is, you can access the data via iTunes... yes even on the latest version of iTunes that no longer houses the applications themselves. But iTunes can read each application and you can extract certain types of files. Again I have no idea what types of apps you had but I've done this several times to extract avi files and mp4's I save from cyber space then transfer via iTunes. If that doesn't work then while your device still has the application data you probably cannot use it. Only other way would be to find an older device and restore that to gain the data back, assuming you backed those applications up. While I can see the reason why you are upset, there was several ways to prevent IOS from downloading and installing updates to the system. Now it will do you no good but future-wise, you can prevent a system update from even downloading by never going to the about section or system update. And if it does download you can go into your storage section and delete the actual file itself.

 

[asiga]

The apps that no longer work on IOS 11 are still on the phone. Depending what type of file it is, you can access the data via iTunes... yes even on the latest version of iTunes that no longer houses the applications themselves. But iTunes can read each application and you can extract certain types of files. Again I have no idea what types of apps you had but I've done this several times to extract avi files and mp4's I save from cyber space then transfer via iTunes [...]

Yes, thanks a lot. In fact I applied this technique today and I've been able to recover all my data by copying the apps in my Mac and accessing their files within their folders. However, as explained in this other post, this event is just a confirmation that I'll be abandoning Apple for very similar reasons why I switched from Microsoft to Apple years ago. It's not because of this event in itself, but because this event clearly shows what Apple is about these days. And I'm not into the Apple-servant game, just like I wasn't into the Microsoft-servant game in the 90s.

 

[broadbean]

Depending what type of file it is, you can access the data via iTunes...

Not all apps.

 

[chrono1081]

You didn't read the screen, you clicked "accept", no one robbed you of anything, man up and take responsibility for your actions.

Or find a phone with a complexity you can handle.

 

[yourmn]

/yawn

 

[tkukoc]

Not all apps.

Depending on the file type saved within the application itself, it should show up. If the developer doesn't have that built in, then that's on the developer not Apple.

 

[jgiannakas]

This quote is not from Apple, but, however it includes one of the reasons why I switched to Apple in the "golden" days of Microsoft. Yes, you can argue that privacy was not a big concern in those years, but when you moved from Microsoft to Apple, it was a big step in the direction of being in control of your computer: with Microsoft, by using your computer you felt like if you were working for Microsoft rather than for yourself; with the Mac, you were actually working for yourself. In other words: with Microsoft, you had to respect Microsoft. With Apple, it's Apple who respected you and your work.

The quote is from https://puri.sm . Of course you can take your crystal ball (together with your love for Apple telling you what you have to do --and trusting they'll be good boys with your private data you're making available to them everyday)... and with your crystal ball + Apple-servant-joy, you can laugh at Purism saying how they will fail, that other people tried before and failed, and that Linux has no apps, blah, blah, blah,... and you can laugh in the way you wish, but there's one thing you can't silence: The group of people who is fed up with devices that tell them what, when and how to do things, is bigger and bigger with the time, at least as big as to crowdfund two laptops and a $2M amount for a phone.

In my first post in the thread (which you called a joke, childish, from a newbie, hyperbolic, blah, blah, blah), I said that enough is enough. It wasn't a matter of a quick shout done in a bad day, but a progressive change in Apple's attitude, that I cannot tolerate as a customer. Losing iOS 10 is not bad enough for saying enough is enough (iOS 10 is worse than older iOS versions). What really made me affirm that Apple is no longer on my side but against me, is that Apple decided that I had to answer a nagging screen twice a week, and that I could only choose two options: keep answering that nagging screen forever twice a week, for all the weeks in the rest of my life. Or accept to update. I had chosen the former, but I was in the subway, and in a hurry of opening an app, so in the middle of the hurry I pressed the wrong button (and please, don't tell me about the watchTV profile: that's an unsupported hack that Apple can disable when they want; the same goes for deleting the update: it continues to be downloaded again, forever and ever).

I could look for workarounds (selling the iPhone, etc...), but... I see this event as the clear confirmation that, from now on, Apple is not going to be on my side anymore, but telling me what to do, when, exactly how to do it, and nagging if I'm not willing to obey. Not only that, but also they'll continue pushing me to upload my files and my data to their servers (iCloud, or whatever comes next).

• Should I trust how they'll use my data when they don't even respect my choice of not updating as a permanent and final decision taking on my own?
• Should I trust how they'll use my data when they don't even ask for a confirmation for an OS update that is going to make your phone non-operational for 20 minutes? (I had to call my family, not urgent, but I had to delay my family call for 20 minutes just because Apple managed to fool me this time)
• Should I trust how they'll use my data when they are always trying to push me in the direction they want?

It's clear I could sell the iPhone and get an iOS 10 (or older) one, but that's not going to change the root of these questionable (to say the least) practices from Apple. I cannot tolerate these practices, so enough is enough.

And, those of you suggesting Android... you are indeed joking, aren't you?

If you ask me what will be my next OS and my next mobile devices, I cannot answer at this time, because, as you said, the main options in mobile are either iOS or Android, and I'm very used to the power of MacOS. If Purism succeeds, it could very well be my future brand. Their motto (the beginning quote at the top of this message) defines exactly how I want my devices to be nowadays. If they don't succeed, I'll keep looking, because if there's interest enough of raising $2M for a phone, there must be alternatives sooner or later.

Get over yourself- there is a solution, the Apple TV profile and it won’t nag you again. If you knew about it and chose not to install it then oh well

 

[maerz001]

Get over yourself- there is a solution, the Apple TV profile and it won’t nag you again. If you knew about it and chose not to install it then oh well

I just read about the 20steps process. If this is the only way than no wonder nobody does it. F..k Apple
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You didn't read the screen, you clicked "accept", no one robbed you of anything, man up and take responsibility for your actions.

Or find a phone with a complexity you can handle.

Thanks for ur useless answer we already have seen here a dozen times

 

[broadbean]

If the developer doesn't have that built in, then that's on the developer not Apple.

Sure, but what I wrote still true.

 

[C DM]

I just read about the 20steps process. If this is the only way than no wonder nobody does it. F..k Apple
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Thanks for ur useless answer we already have seen here a dozen times

Click on a link to a profile, accept the profile, and basically done?

 

[Hater]

Jailbreak it, comes with iOS upgrade suppression built in

 

[maerz001]

Click on a link to a profile, accept the profile, and basically done?

yes easy as that

1) Turn off Find my iPhone on your device from Settings > iCloud > Find my iPhone.

2) Delete any downloaded OTA update files you already have on your device by following this tutorial.

3) On your iOS device, download and install a tvOS configuration profile.

4) Your Settings app will launch and prompt you to install it, so tap on the blue Install button.

5) If prompted for your passcode, enter it now:

6) Next, tap on the blue Install button again, and when prompted, tap on the blue Install button one final time.

7) After it installs, you will be asked to restart your device; tap on the blue Restart button.

8) Once your device boots back up, you can go to Settings > General > Profile and verify that the configuration profile was installed successfully. If it is, move on to the next step.

9) Next, you want to plug your iOS device into your Mac or PC and open iTunes.

10) Go to your device’s page in iTunes and back up your iOS device to your computer.

11) Once finished, download and install iBackupBot on your computer, then launch it while your iOS device is still connected.

12) From the sidebar, go to /System Files/Home Domain/Library/Preferences under the device you have connected.

13) Once in the folder you want, open the com.apple.Preferences.plist file by double-clicking on it.

14) When the file opens, you will need to make a couple of edits.

• Change the value of <key>kBadgedForSoftwareUpdateKey</key> from <true/> to <false/>
• Change the value of <key>kBadgedForSoftwareUpdateJumpOnceKey</key> from <true/> to <false/>

15) Next, click on the Save button and then click on the Close button.

16) Now, click on the Restore button in the toolbar.

17) You will now need to select the device you have connected, and then click on the blue OKbutton:

18) Next, make sure both of the first options are checked and that the third is un-checked. Then, click OK.

19) The process will now begin.

Note: If you get Error 37 during this process, then you forgot to turn off Find my iPhone, so make sure you do that and try again.

20) When it finishes, your iOS device will say “restoring” and may reboot, just give it a moment. When it completes, you should get this message in iBackupBot. Just click on the blue OKbutton and move on to the next step.

And you’re done!

source: http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/08/18/how-to-stop-iphone-asking-to-install-ios-updates/

 

[tkukoc]

Sure, but what I wrote still true.

lol as was my original post.

 

[Altis]

Well. Easier to convince users to update when it's labeled "feature enhancement".

Exactly. If Apple listed all the ways the upgrade would make your device worse, it would at least be honest.

The update message is basically endless harassment, and it always manages to wait for when you're in the middle of doing something to pop up.

There are many devs and blind fanatics to whom Apple can do no wrong on this forum though which is why anyone who is displeased with updates or the update harassment/permanence gets berated around here.

 

[ET iPhone Home]

See more of your posts next year when you get the iPhone X Plus.

 

[broadbean]

Apart from the “click bait” title, Hater camp is focussed on workarounds, victim blaming, and submission.

Others are questioning why they just can’t be left alone.

So this thread is no different to real life!