Apple used to be ahead of the curve

[skratch77]

Yeah that's true for sure, but don't you need to be rooted anyways to use a PS3 controller? From my experience, PS3 support is pretty crap on Android devices. Probably doesn't matter since Android's have the MOGA controller to use anyways. Watching that Google Game API to be officially used, achievements and finally save files.

Root is nothing special and nothing like jail breaking an iPhone.all rooting does is allows full access to the root of the file system.it took 5 seconds to root my gs4 and it is the same exact phone with nothing changed with just root access.

Running a custom ROM is like a jail broken iPhone and the way Google is pushing it is for one standard keypad layout so everyone can follow so a few months later you can still use the same game pad on all the new games

 

[RoboWarriorSr]

Root is nothing special and nothing like jail breaking an iPhone.all rooting does is allows full access to the root of the file system.it took 5 seconds to root my gs4 and it is the same exact phone with nothing changed with just root access.

Running a custom ROM is like a jail broken iPhone and the way Google is pushing it is for one standard keypad layout so everyone can follow so a few months later you can still use the same game pad on all the new games

Well I had a HTC and hopefully you know how much it was a pain in the ass to root HTC devices with the NAND lock and other security features they implement. The whole process took about an hour including reading instructions and downloading files so yeah had a very different experience with rooting. Oh and did I mention the Kindle I rooted and now wanting for a fastboot cable. Should be getting devices that are easier to work with lol.

 

[daveathall]

True, we can Samsung begin this stage, the design between the GS3 and GS4 are pretty much the same to the user. Reviewers are definitely noticing this.

Curious about this statement. The S4 is a different shape, is finished differently, is smaller and lighter, has a larger screen with greater definition and different glass, better camera, better battery, the internals, processor etc are completely different, software wise there are a host of new features.

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4238&idPhone2=5125


So what in your opinion stayed the same?

 

[Shanghaichica]

Specs don't matter unless apple's specs are better. But when the competition offers better specs then it's just all about the better overall experience that apple offers.

See this sort of stuff all the time. That's generally how it works with many certain apple fans.

I had a nexus 7 and an iPad mini and used both for 2 months side by side before getting rid of the nexus 7 in favour of the iPad mini. On paper the Nexus 7 blows the iPad mini away in terms of specs but in real life it wasn't like that. The nexus 7 had some lag, making the iPad mini overall faster and smoother. The nexus 7 was also unstable from time to time, it would crash and spontaneously re-boot a few times a week. I also found the colour saturation on the nexus 7 to be inferior to the iPad mini. So although the nexus 7 had a higher ppi and resolution than the iPad mini and admittedly displayed text better, I found the iPad mini to have a better screen overall. These are just some of the things where I found the mini to be better despite the nexus 7's superior specs. Bare in mind I don't play high spec games, just things like angry birds and plants vs Zombies which won't be able to take advantage of the quad core processor in the nexus 7. I mainly used both devices for web browsing, apps, watching videos, listening to music and occasional game playing. The nexus 7 wasn't a bad device, it's the best out of all the android devices I've owned.

 

[Vegastouch]

I had a nexus 7 and an iPad mini and used both for 2 months side by side before getting rid of the nexus 7 in favour of the iPad mini. On paper the Nexus 7 blows the iPad mini away in terms of specs but in real life it wasn't like that. The nexus 7 had some lag, making the iPad mini overall faster and smoother. The nexus 7 was also unstable from time to time, it would crash and spontaneously re-boot a few times a week. I also found the colour saturation on the nexus 7 to be inferior to the iPad mini. So although the nexus 7 had a higher ppi and resolution than the iPad mini and admittedly displayed text better, I found the iPad mini to have a better screen overall. These are just some of the things where I found the mini to be better despite the nexus 7's superior specs. Bare in mind I don't play high spec games, just things like angry birds and plants vs Zombies which won't be able to take advantage of the quad core processor in the nexus 7. I mainly used both devices for web browsing, apps, watching videos, listening to music and occasional game playing. The nexus 7 wasn't a bad device, it's the best out of all the android devices I've owned.

All a matter of opinion. We have a Mini and a Nexus 7 as well. We (Wife and i) hardly ever use the Mini. Pretty much exclusively use the N7 to the point where i pretty gave the Mini to our Daughter. We also have it set up with each of us as users and have it set up how we like it. The Mini cant do that.

I just find the Nexus easier to use and the screen is better. That said the next tablet ill get just might be a Note 8.0. Those are really nice and will sync well with the GS4 ill be getting.....but of course i will wait to see what the next Nexus tablet will be like.

 

[hexonxonx]

All a matter of opinion. We have a Mini and a Nexus 7 as well. We (Wife and i) hardly ever use the Mini. Pretty much exclusively use the N7 to the point where i pretty gave the Mini to our Daughter. We also have it set up with each of us as users and have it set up how we like it. The Mini cant do that.

I just find the Nexus easier to use and the screen is better. That said the next tablet ill get just might be a Note 8.0. Those are really nice and will sync well with the GS4 ill be getting.....but of course i will wait to see what the next Nexus tablet will be like.

I too have a Nexus 7 and bought a Mini just a few days ago. When I installed all my favorite apps on the Mini, I was so impressed with the quality of the same apps on the Mini than what I was able to get on the Nexus 7, that I wonder now why I wasted my money on the 7.

Today I watched the iPad Mini video when Apple introduced it and they used the Nexus 7 as a comparison. In the video, they stated that the Nexus 7 was using scaled up smart phone apps. Yes, many of the apps that I was using on the Nexus 7 were simply scaled up to fit the screen on the Nexus 7. This explains why many of them were no different than what I was using on my Nexus 4.

I have been wondering why I waited so long to buy an iPad. I'll be putting the Nexus 7 back on CL soon.

 

[Vegastouch]

I too have a Nexus 7 and bought a Mini just a few days ago. When I installed all my favorite apps on the Mini, I was so impressed with the quality of the same apps on the Mini than what I was able to get on the Nexus 7, that I wonder now why I wasted my money on the 7.

Today I watched the iPad Mini video when Apple introduced it and they used the Nexus 7 as a comparison. In the video, they stated that the Nexus 7 was using scaled up smart phone apps. Yes, many of the apps that I was using on the Nexus 7 were simply scaled up to fit the screen on the Nexus 7. This explains why many of them were no different than what I was using on my Nexus 4.

I have been wondering why I waited so long to buy an iPad. I'll be putting the Nexus 7 back on CL soon.

That is true. They dont have all the apps scaled to tablet size for whatever reason. But i still prefer to use the Nexus. It is easier to use and the screen is better no matter what the apps look like.
It doesnt really matter to me if they look the same as the phone apps. Still works the same and the screen is bigger which is the point for me to have a tablet.
The Mini is a nice device, i just prefer not to use it over the N7 and i dislike iTunes.

 

[sectime]

You are about the 1,000th person to post these exact sentiments. Not that you are wrong...

So what happens when Apple does make a bigger phone? Will it be too late? Will it be so late as to be impossible to be wowed by it? If so, what next? There are only so many form factors a handheld slab of glass can take.

People were excited by the iPhone because there was basically nothing else like it. Now there are tons of phones like it, and there will likely never be another WOW phone, maybe until we branch out into brain-embedded chips or some other non-physical iteration of a communication device.

This isn't a shortcoming of Apple. It's the nature of technology. The LCD TV industry is seriously suffering because they've sold everyone a big sleek TV that does what it needs to do, much like smart phones. They tried adding bells and whistles (3D, web services, etc), but most people couldn't care less.

Exactly, more accurate to say Apple was the curve back then. Face it Cell phone have run the course in convergence Watch the next trend is divergence. Cause two things are better than one

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Root is nothing special and nothing like jail breaking an iPhone.all rooting does is allows full access to the root of the file system.it took 5 seconds to root my gs4 and it is the same exact phone with nothing changed with just root access.

Running a custom ROM is like a jail broken iPhone and the way Google is pushing it is for one standard keypad layout so everyone can follow so a few months later you can still use the same game pad on all the new games

So much wrong with this post.

Root and Jailbreak are basically the same thing. I don't see how you would call rooting less special than jailbreak. You can actually do more with a rooted Android than a Jailbroken iOS.

A custom ROM is NOT anything like a jailbroken iPhone. There is no custom ROMs for the iPhone.

 

[skratch77]

So much wrong with this post.

Root and Jailbreak are basically the same thing. I don't see how you would call rooting less special than jailbreak. You can actually do more with a rooted Android than a Jailbroken iOS.

A custom ROM is NOT anything like a jailbroken iPhone. There is no custom ROMs for the iPhone.

Rooting a phone to allow a ps3 controller is just that,full root access to the file system.its like seeing everything on a hard drive directory and being able to write to the root of the directory.

You root an android device and nothing about the way the phone looks or runs changes.a jail broken iPhone is a whole new os written over the stock one.

Have you ever even rooted a phone before?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Rooting a phone to allow a ps3 controller is just that,full root access to the file system.its like seeing everything on a hard drive directory and being able to write to the root of the directory.

You root an android device and nothing about the way the phone looks or runs changes.a jail broken iPhone is a whole new os written over the stock one.

Have you ever even rooted a phone before?

Seriously, You should research before posting.

Jailbreaking is NOT a whole new OS written over the stock. Jailbreaking is basically installing kernel patches so you can run unsigned code and also gain root access. In layman's terms, it's basically the same as rooting.

 

[skratch77]

Seriously, You should research before posting.

Jailbreaking is NOT a whole new OS written over the stock. Jailbreaking is basically installing kernel patches so you can run unsigned code and also gain root access. In layman's terms, it's basically the same as rooting.

When I jail broke my 3gs it loaded a whole new tweaked os and the phone had a whole new look and booted up differently.it is a hell of a lot closer to running a custom ROM.it took over 30 min to install vs 3 seconds to root a phone.

I'm pretty sure now that you have never rooted an android phone.its not a modified kernel or ROM its just alowing you full root access to the file system and then allows you to install a new ROM and to install a new boot loader and even if you want install a new kernal.it does absolutely nothing to the way the phone looks or feels and you can take a rooted stock gs4 and a non rooted and not be able to tell witch one is rooted.

You can just root a phone and never install any custom ROMs or kernel and do it just for root access to the file system like say you want to save a new ringtone in the stock folder where all the tones are,well now you can because you have full read write to the whole file system

That is all rooting is doing,its not installing any hacked apps or changing the way the os runs or looks and feels.its like clicking on the c:\ on windows and going into properties and clicking show hidden files.

What you do after rooting is up to you and that is why a jail broken iPhone is like a custom ROM and not just like a rooted stock android phone.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

When I jail broke my 3gs it loaded a whole new tweaked os and the phone had a whole new look and booted up differently.it is a hell of a lot closer to running a custom ROM.it took over 30 min to install vs 3 seconds to root a phone.

I'm pretty sure now that you have never rooted an android phone.its not a modified kernel or ROM its just alowing you full root access to the file system and then allows you to install a new ROM and to install a new boot loader and even if you want install a new kernal.it does absolutely nothing to the way the phone looks or feels and you can take a rooted stock gs4 and a non rooted and not be able to tell witch one is rooted.

You can just root a phone and never install any custom ROMs or kernel and do it just for root access to the file system like say you want to save a new ringtone in the stock folder where all the tones are,well now you can because you have full read write to the whole file system

That is all rooting is doing,its not installing any hacked apps or changing the way the os runs or looks and feels.its like clicking on the c:\ on windows and going into properties and clicking show hidden files.

What you do after rooting is up to you and that is why a jail broken iPhone is like a custom ROM and not just like a rooted stock android phone.

Jailbreaking does not give iOS a differ look. Only thing you'll notice differ is the Cydia store icon now exists. Before you accuse me of never rooting, you need to really take my advice on the previous post which was to seriously do some research before posting. Everything your saying is completely false.

 

[hafr]

When I jail broke my 3gs it loaded a whole new tweaked os and the phone had a whole new look and booted up differently.it is a hell of a lot closer to running a custom ROM.it took over 30 min to install vs 3 seconds to root a phone.

I'm pretty sure now that you have never rooted an android phone.its not a modified kernel or ROM its just alowing you full root access to the file system and then allows you to install a new ROM and to install a new boot loader and even if you want install a new kernal.it does absolutely nothing to the way the phone looks or feels and you can take a rooted stock gs4 and a non rooted and not be able to tell witch one is rooted.

You can just root a phone and never install any custom ROMs or kernel and do it just for root access to the file system like say you want to save a new ringtone in the stock folder where all the tones are,well now you can because you have full read write to the whole file system

That is all rooting is doing,its not installing any hacked apps or changing the way the os runs or looks and feels.its like clicking on the c:\ on windows and going into properties and clicking show hidden files.

What you do after rooting is up to you and that is why a jail broken iPhone is like a custom ROM and not just like a rooted stock android phone.

Jailbreaking an iPhone is like rooting an Android phone. If your iPhone booted up differently, had a different look afterwards and whatnot - it's because you or someone else installed tweaks, themes or whatever, not because it was jailbroken.

The only cosmetic difference between a jailbroken iPhone and a non jailbroken iPhone is the app called Cydia. It's there on jailbroken iPhones, not on non jailbroken iPhones. If it wasn't there, there would be NO WAY for you to tell the difference.

 

[onthecouchagain]

iOS 7 design leaks? http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...-depicting-big-changes-in-iconography_id43881

More pics in the link above.

 

[MRU]

iOS 7 design leaks? http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...-depicting-big-changes-in-iconography_id43881

More pics in the link above.

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Still skeptical about these, as they are purported to be mockups based on the design / look of a preview build of iOS 7 to press / developers.

Not quite sure whether I'd give them any more credit tbh. I just don't believe Apple would design anything quite that 'ugly' as the GC icon there etc..

http://9to5mac.com/2013/06/09/what-ios7-looks-like/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

But if they are accurate, I hope iOS changes go a little more deep into the OS, than just new icons and new backgrounds / textures in certain stock apps.

Looks like this is on front page news now here too.

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/10/description-and-mockup-of-apples-flatter-ios-7/

 

[onthecouchagain]

Still skeptical about these, as they are purported to be mockups based on the design / look of a preview build of iOS 7 to press / developers.

Not quite sure whether I'd give them any more credit tbh. I just don't believe Apple would design anything quite that 'ugly' as the GC icon there etc..

http://9to5mac.com/2013/06/09/what-ios7-looks-like/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews


Looks like this is on front page news now here too.

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/06/10/description-and-mockup-of-apples-flatter-ios-7/

Skeptical, too.

I find, though, that "day-of leaks" tend to be more right than wrong. We shall see in some hours.

 

[Irishman]

I can't even use Google wallet on my HTC One and I have no reason to use NFC tags. If some people use it fine but Apple should not make this as priority feature.

Which three countries have the greatest NFC penetration right now?

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How do you guys feel about the web experience of an iPad compared to an Android tablet?

I personally prefer browsing the web on an Android tablet vs safari on my iPad. While the interface is as smooth all the time I find with flash installed its a better experience. This could be the reason for not an as smooth experience. Some websites just stump my iPad.

They don't stump it. They're not written for it.

Just curious - what flash-enabled sites do you need at this point? Mobile flash being killed by Adobe and all.

 

[lsutigerfan1976]

I am looking forward to seeing IOS 7 in a few hours. Something tells me i am going to be disappointed as i really want Apple to come up with a new OS to be completely different. Not just in looks but in features as well. My best guess is that aesthetically it will look nice. With maybe one or two new features thrown in etc. But i hope i am wrong and they blow me away.

Otherwise i may be tempted to go with an HTC One when Verizon gets it. Or just go with an S4 after seeing what Apple has to offer.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

iOS 7 design leaks? http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...-depicting-big-changes-in-iconography_id43881

More pics in the link above.

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I hope it's not true, that looks nasty.

 

[lsutigerfan1976]

I hope it's not true, that looks nasty.

Yeah i hope that this isnt true. The leaks that is. It is, and not to offend anyone with android. Almost android like, and to go further. Not even as polished as it could be. Of course these are probably just mock ups as everyone says. Still hoping that IOS 7 is more than just a redo of the icons etc. And it packs more features in it than IOS 6. I am hoping for the wow factor to come in.

 

[jrswizzle]

iOS 7 design leaks? http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...-depicting-big-changes-in-iconography_id43881

More pics in the link above.

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I think this is bogus for one really simple reason.....

Those icons are NOT uniform AT ALL.....

I highly doubt Apple would go to all the trouble to re-design and bring their OS more uniformity with LESS similar icons....

 

[bmac4]

I think this is bogus for one really simple reason.....

Those icons are NOT uniform AT ALL.....

I highly doubt Apple would go to all the trouble to re-design and bring their OS more uniformity with LESS similar icons....

I agree. This just does not look like something Apple would do. Most of the pictures I have seen the icons are the same, but just a slight flatten out look to it. I just can't see Apple making a huge change. It would make a lot of people mad.

 

[cuzo]

They better add toggles and a homescreen, or else

 

[daveathall]

One would hope that Apple don't release something that is for all intent and purpose is an icon and theme pack and call it something revolutionary. Seems to be a lot of excitement over something that one could go to the play store and take a pick out of literally 100s.