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Pick your poison. Android micro stutters or iOS extended lag freezes. On a scale of 10 Android is like 1 compared to 10 for iOS in severity. My iPads have been doing this for years so it's nothing new.





 
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For example, a Galaxy S8 is LOADED with demo software that shows off all the cool features, etc; but completely inhibits you from doing anything normal for more than a few seconds. Then it switches back to demo.

Thus, you are making a statement of fact, without actually knowing what you are talking about.

All phones lag, even iPhone/iPads. I should know, I have owned every major iPhone/iPad/Pixel/Nexus/Galaxy/and even a few recent flagship Lgs & HTCs. They hide their lag differently, behind how the mutlitasking operates. This comes down to application storage, animations, etc.

The iPhone does the best at hiding lag, while the Pixel does the best with mutlitasking. Don't post a unrealistic youtube video of a speed-test, this is based off my personal long-term experience. Pure Android can go toe to toe with iOS, and I wouldn't make a bet. They are both going to succeed, and fail, in their own way.

I currently use the Galaxy S8+. In the past, Samsung was the worst about UI lag, and I still wouldn't put it on the level of the Pixel/iOS; but that is only in a side by side, useless comparison. The phone is super fast, super reliable, and that goes along with the gorgeous design, great camera, features, etc. The touchwiz launcher is the only play that lag is ever apparent, and Samsung is finally acknowledging that. An update was just released last week or so that directly addressed some of this lag. Personally, I wouldn't know, I always end up using Action Launcher on my Android phones, which eliminates any launcher/homescreen inconsistencies.

iPhone and Android are largely similar, when it comes to fixing "lag". If/when it appears, restart the phone. If this doesn't fix it, and you don't have a poorly coded rogue app (unique to android, increasingly rare, unless you go looking for crap apps, but this freedom allots many of android unique features/advantages over iOS), do a factory reset. Modern Pixel/Galaxies (I haven't recently tried this on another brand) backup and restore features are on parity with iOS. If this doesn't fix it, you have a faulty phone.

Beyond major hang-ups, which can be addressed as indicated above, this "lag" that people harp on here is largely miniscule and pseudo. If you get upset/worked up over the occasional hang, take a deep breathe and examine your expectations. I am not going to judge you and tell you to get a life, because tech is becoming increasingly integrated into how we live, but do keep a perspective. Maybe your Galaxy S8 (mine doesn't, but maybe yours does) occasionally hangs for a millisecond when you jump into a Samsung brand app (which you don't have to use); at the same time my Siri on my iPhone has failed for the 1000s time trying to give me simple directions. Every phone has its advantage and disadvantage.

The same can be said for Windows 10/macOS. I used to be a dire-hard macOS person, until the recent MBPtb, in which I purchased one, became increasingly frustrated, and moved on the Widows 10 (happy here). But, again, advantages and disadvantages.

Man, I always end up writing a book on here. Tl;dr? Enjoy your phone, and pet your dog today.....

***I didn't really read previous post, so keep that in mind. Also, the new iPad Pros, in my mind, are exempt from the "every device lags" argument. I have one, and it is the most fluid device I have used. While I can't say the same for other Apple products at the moment, the iPad Pro line is by far and away the best devices in their class; it is not even close. But, as we see with apps such as affinity photo, even these devices will be tax/lag as developers eventually harness their power (but this will largely be on cutting edge, professional apps, due to developers desire to appeal to a wide range of devices).***
I'm not reading all that rofl

Android still lags in store displays. Doesn't matter if people "abused it" or if it has some extra software on it. iPhone goes through the same abuse (probably much more because they are more desirable in general), yet they always perform very well in store displays. It's a good demonstration of performance over time and usage, whether you like it or not (based on the length of your reply, seems like it's really pissing you off lol)

Thanks for the reply though buddy, that was quite an effort
 
I'm not reading all that rofl

Android still lags in store displays. Doesn't matter if people "abused it" or if it has some extra software on it. iPhone goes through the same abuse (probably much more because they are more desirable in general), yet they always perform very well in store displays. It's a good demonstration of performance over time and usage, whether you like it or not (based on the length of your reply, seems like it's really pissing you off lol)

Thanks for the reply though buddy, that was quite an effort

When I went to store to try the s8 demo unit, it was blazingly fast. No lag. There were no demo app running on the phone - just a normal s8. I dont know which Android you are referring to but I have tried some recent flagship/premium Android like Mate 9, LG C6, Mi 6, P10, XZ at the store and there were no lag.

Maybe instead of regurgitating all the BS about lag put out by sheeple like it is the truth, maybe post some videos to show what lag you are talking about. All this while just talk and talk about Android lag but no video unlike the post above with videos showing how Iphone lag big time.
 
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Touchwiz lags, its only slight dropped frames but it stutters. Even on my S8 Plus it stutters but I would not use an iPhone if you gave it to me for free, I like features and customisation over a little extra smoothness thank you.
 
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galaxy s8 lag at 1:40 - smash, 2:00 - amazon

lag is perceived when your interaction with the UI doesnt result with immediate or near-immediate response of any kind (kinda like concept of doherty threshold).

and android does lag. the same concept of opening apps on hdd vs sdd.

I'm not saying android is slow, android could be faster, but the philosophy behind the animation system on iOS is tuned better for humans. its more pleasant. UX is better.

apple is run by designers, google by engineers

highly specialised sport cars vs multipurpose versatile trucks. truckers dont care about the steering feel or response. art vs tools. CAT vs RR. different philosophies for different people of different philosophies.

maybe it would be easier if everybody would just include their job in posts so the professional deformation could be factored in. there might be a certain correlation.
 
Only android phone I found not to lag over time is the huawei mate9

it learns and turns off stuff in background, other than my iphone 6s+ best phone had!

It not perfect as needs a reboot every 2-3 weeks as it stops playing facebook videos if you do not reboot it.
Bit odd but only glitch I have found so far
 
When I went to store to try the s8 demo unit, it was blazingly fast. No lag. There were no demo app running on the phone - just a normal s8. I dont know which Android you are referring to but I have tried some recent flagship/premium Android like Mate 9, LG C6, Mi 6, P10, XZ at the store and there were no lag.

Maybe instead of regurgitating all the BS about lag put out by sheeple like it is the truth, maybe post some videos to show what lag you are talking about. All this while just talk and talk about Android lag but no video unlike the post above with videos showing how Iphone lag big time.
You can do your own research champ - Google's pretty easy to use these days.

Pointing out Android's lag problems sure seems to trigger a lot of people these days. Must be the fact that it takes 3x the amount of RAM, 4x the amount of CPU cores, and at least 2x the CPU clocks to even come close to iPhone performance. That's what happens when your entire OS UI runs on a language that's frankly the laughing stock among programmers in terms of performance. These performance issues will always be inherent until they port android to a better, non VM language. Till then, expect supercomputer specs as minimum requirements.

Oh boy I can't wait for more essays
 
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You can do your own research champ - Google's pretty easy to use these days.

Pointing out Android's lag problems sure seems to trigger a lot of people these days. Must be the fact that it takes 3x the amount of RAM, 4x the amount of CPU cores, and at least 2x the CPU clocks to even come close to iPhone performance. That's what happens when your entire OS UI runs on a language that's frankly the laughing stock among programmers in terms of performance. These performance issues will always be inherent until they port android to a better, non VM language. Till then, expect supercomputer specs as minimum requirements.

Oh boy I can't wait for more essays


Once Google eventually moves to this, the lag should be gone for good. Rumors are it will debut on the Pixel 4 in the Fall of 2019, and go live for all other manufactures Android phones in 2020.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/googles-fuchsia-smartphone-os-dumps-linux-has-a-wild-new-ui/
 
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I'm not reading all that rofl

Android still lags in store displays. Doesn't matter if people "abused it" or if it has some extra software on it. iPhone goes through the same abuse (probably much more because they are more desirable in general), yet they always perform very well in store displays. It's a good demonstration of performance over time and usage, whether you like it or not (based on the length of your reply, seems like it's really pissing you off lol)

Thanks for the reply though buddy, that was quite an effort

"ROFL"

These type of responses make me doubt your maturity, but it is my fault to expect a level headed, logical argument/point of view from someone on this forum (there are plenty of exceptions).

Anyway, if you had read the whole post (never said you had to), you would of seen my take was completely different that you assumed.

By disregarding peoples arguments, being rude and obtuse, and claiming the same thing over and over; you are setting yourself up to be disregarded. Seems the appropriate course.

As a side note, to state the iPhone state in the store is same is to either be blatantly and knowingly wrong, or ignorant. The iPhone doesn't have demo software from the manufacturer, or the extra set of demo software put on the phones by the likes of At&t. While this is representative of one of the benefits of iOS, no carrier interference/bloatware, it in no way supports your claim.

What you are saying is like saying a Dell XPS 15 running a highly demanding game in the background, while surfing the web, is the same as a MBP running safari and nothing else. It it not.
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You can do your own research champ - Google's pretty easy to use these days.

Pointing out Android's lag problems sure seems to trigger a lot of people these days. Must be the fact that it takes 3x the amount of RAM, 4x the amount of CPU cores, and at least 2x the CPU clocks to even come close to iPhone performance. That's what happens when your entire OS UI runs on a language that's frankly the laughing stock among programmers in terms of performance. These performance issues will always be inherent until they port android to a better, non VM language. Till then, expect supercomputer specs as minimum requirements.

Oh boy I can't wait for more essays

True enough, but as indicated above, that will change.

The confusing part is that the iPhone has, arguably, the best processor and gpu on the market...yet still suffers from its own stutters and lags. The Pixel has inferior processing power, but matches the iPhone well.

Oh boy, I can't wait for another sarcastic response.
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galaxy s8 lag at 1:40 - smash, 2:00 - amazon

lag is perceived when your interaction with the UI doesnt result with immediate or near-immediate response of any kind (kinda like concept of doherty threshold).

and android does lag. the same concept of opening apps on hdd vs sdd.

I'm not saying android is slow, android could be faster, but the philosophy behind the animation system on iOS is tuned better for humans. its more pleasant. UX is better.

apple is run by designers, google by engineers

highly specialised sport cars vs multipurpose versatile trucks. truckers dont care about the steering feel or response. art vs tools. CAT vs RR. different philosophies for different people of different philosophies.

maybe it would be easier if everybody would just include their job in posts so the professional deformation could be factored in. there might be a certain correlation.

Its the nature of the OS. If you want a fair comparison, compare it to the Pixel. The galaxy s8 has more instance of your described lag.

If Apple is ran by designers, and Google by engineers, and this distinction is complete; then Apple would be in a lot of trouble, and so would google.

I prefer the UI, look, functionality, and interaction of Android. So I guess we disagree, which is what happens when you allow bias to slip into a rather well put together post.
 
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Sadly this thread had once again turned into another "He said / She said - please include video" mess and mine is best while you are lying.

Sigh .... :rolleyes:
I wonder, when reading some of these posts if they have affectionate names for their... Oh wait we are talking about phones right? ;)
 
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Sadly this thread had once again turned into another "He said / She said - please include video" mess and mine is best while you are lying.

Sigh .... :rolleyes:

Same old story. People want validation for their purchases so they need to insist what the other person likes is crap. Also, too many folks mistake anecdotal evidence for actual evidence.

Besides, ALL F*CKING PHONES LAG AND/OR ARE CAPABLE OF LAG. This whole thing is the dumbest line of thinking.
 
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"ROFL"

These type of responses make me doubt your maturity, but it is my fault to expect a level headed, logical argument/point of view from someone on this forum (there are plenty of exceptions).

Anyway, if you had read the whole post (never said you had to), you would of seen my take was completely different that you assumed.

By disregarding peoples arguments, being rude and obtuse, and claiming the same thing over and over; you are setting yourself up to be disregarded. Seems the appropriate course.

As a side note, to state the iPhone state in the store is same is to either be blatantly and knowingly wrong, or ignorant. The iPhone doesn't have demo software from the manufacturer, or the extra set of demo software put on the phones by the likes of At&t. While this is representative of one of the benefits of iOS, no carrier interference/bloatware, it in no way supports your claim.

What you are saying is like saying a Dell XPS 15 running a highly demanding game in the background, while surfing the web, is the same as a MBP running safari and nothing else. It it not.
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True enough, but as indicated above, that will change.

The confusing part is that the iPhone has, arguably, the best processor and gpu on the market...yet still suffers from its own stutters and lags. The Pixel has inferior processing power, but matches the iPhone well.

Oh boy, I can't wait for another sarcastic response.
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Its the nature of the OS. If you want a fair comparison, compare it to the Pixel. The galaxy s8 has more instance of your described lag.

If Apple is ran by designers, and Google by engineers, and this distinction is complete; then Apple would be in a lot of trouble, and so would google.

I prefer the UI, look, functionality, and interaction of Android. So I guess we disagree, which is what happens when you allow bias to slip into a rather well put together post.
Still not reading that essay lol, but I'll assume it triggered you some more. I'm truly sorry if it ruins your day, I was just stating opinion with some facts sprinkled on.
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Once Google eventually moves to this, the lag should be gone for good. Rumors are it will debut on the Pixel 4 in the Fall of 2019, and go live for all other manufactures Android phones in 2020.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/googles-fuchsia-smartphone-os-dumps-linux-has-a-wild-new-ui/
Looking forward to that!
 
The lag you are describing is from the launcher app. Try the Google now launcher, android allows you to customize. Another source of lag for some people is the default keyboard, with again the Google keyboard as a better alternative choice.

With the long list of android phones you say you've owned, I'm surprised you haven't tried any customizing with alternative keyboards and launchers.

You assumed wrong. I was using Nova Launcher. And I use other keyboards than the default like Swiftkey. That is all I use on my phones.
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Sadly this thread had once again turned into another "He said / She said - please include video" mess and mine is best while you are lying.

Sigh .... :rolleyes:

And usually by the same users on this site that hate the iPhone and love Android.
 
You assumed wrong. I was using Nova Launcher. And I use other keyboards than the default like Swiftkey. That is all I use on my phones.
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And usually by the same users on this site that hate the iPhone and love Android.
"hate the iPhone", hahaha. Grow up.
 
Its the nature of the OS. If you want a fair comparison, compare it to the Pixel. The galaxy s8 has more instance of your described lag.

If Apple is ran by designers, and Google by engineers, and this distinction is complete; then Apple would be in a lot of trouble, and so would google.

I prefer the UI, look, functionality, and interaction of Android. So I guess we disagree, which is what happens when you allow bias to slip into a rather well put together post.


the same lag is present on the pixel phone also, smash app

regarding engineers, it was a figure of speech. apple couldnt build a teapot without engineers. i was talking about influence of designers, which, in apple's case, is well documented.

and the lag is present, irregardless of our agreements/disagreements.
 

the same lag is present on the pixel phone also, smash app

regarding engineers, it was a figure of speech. apple couldnt build a teapot without engineers. i was talking about influence of designers, which, in apple's case, is well documented.

and the lag is present, irregardless of our agreements/disagreements.

Aren't that the issue with the smash game and not the issue with Android in general?

I can also find an app in iPhone that lag like crap but I am not blind and naive to say iOS lag in general.

In the video the lag you referred to lasted a small fraction of seconds. If you are so bothered by this micro lag, then what would be be your state of mind when you encountered those minute long lag of iPhone (in those videos posted previously)?
 
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Aren't that the issue with the smash game and not the issue with Android in general?

I can also find an app in iPhone that lag like crap but I am not blind and naive to say iOS lag in general.

In the video the lag you referred to lasted a small fraction of seconds. If you are so bothered by this micro lag, then what would be be your state of mind when you encountered those minute long lag of iPhone (in those videos posted previously)?

Those aren't minute long lags, or actual lag for that matter. It's a known thing since the iPhone has been around almost. The touchscreen stops responding and the fix is to lock it and unlock again and it starts working. It happens right after you unlock it. If you watched the iPhone forums over the years you would have known that instead of trying to call those videos LAG. Nice Try...
 
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Those aren't minute long lags, or actual lag for that matter. It's a known thing since the iPhone has been around almost. The touchscreen stops responding and the fix is to lock it and unlock again and it starts working. It happens right after you unlock it. If you watched the iPhone forums over the years you would have known that instead of trying to call those videos LAG. Nice Try...

A UI that is unresponsive is also considered lag. Hypocritical to say otherwise.

You can say it is due bugs but on the flip side Android stutters/lag may due to unoptimized apps and/or intensive concurrent multi tasking which the iPhone can't do.
 
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Aren't that the issue with the smash game and not the issue with Android in general?

I can also find an app in iPhone that lag like crap but I am not blind and naive to say iOS lag in general.

In the video the lag you referred to lasted a small fraction of seconds. If you are so bothered by this micro lag, then what would be be your state of mind when you encountered those minute long lag of iPhone (in those videos posted previously)?

find it then and post a video.

its not about seconds, its about ux. if you're not getting it yet, you probably never will.

what videos posted previously?
 
I barely use my iP7+ after I got the S8+. That's all that matters to me. Both phones have it's occasional rare issues, just likely any other computing device. Any difference in performance that either phone benefits from is so trivial that it doesn't play a part into my everyday experience.
 
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