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admob71

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Those aren't minute long lags, or actual lag for that matter. It's a known thing since the iPhone has been around almost. The touchscreen stops responding and the fix is to lock it and unlock again and it starts working. It happens right after you unlock it. If you watched the iPhone forums over the years you would have known that instead of trying to call those videos LAG. Nice Try...
So there's an annoying lack of action, that needs to be locked and unlcked again. But is ok cos it's not lag? Is this for real..
 
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Yankee512

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A UI that is unresponsive is also considered lag. Hypocritical to say otherwise.

You can say it is due bugs but on the flip side Android stutters/lag may due to unoptimized apps and/or intensive concurrent multi tasking which the iPhone can't do.

You obviously have no clue.
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So there's an annoying lack of action, that needs to be locked and unlcked again. But is ok cos it's not lag? Is this for real..
Google it and you will find out more.
 

admob71

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You obviously have no clue.
[doublepost=1499541394][/doublepost]
Google it and you will find out more.
You don't understand, I'm not doubting what happens is true. It's more the fact that the poster seemed to want to suggest that ios devices were slick and seamless 100% of the time. But as soon as someone highlighted a hiccup in the OS then they came up with some lame excuse to justify the hiccups with some alternative to reason than lag. When at the end of the day, call it what you want, if your device lags, freezes, stutters etc then it's an issue ..
 

mi7chy

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Those aren't minute long lags, or actual lag for that matter. It's a known thing since the iPhone has been around almost. The touchscreen stops responding and the fix is to lock it and unlock again and it starts working. It happens right after you unlock it. If you watched the iPhone forums over the years you would have known that instead of trying to call those videos LAG. Nice Try...

This is the best denial apology I've seen yet. So, it's not UI lag or UI process crashing and restarting. It's normal behavior. LOL
 

macfacts

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Those aren't minute long lags, or actual lag for that matter. It's a known thing since the iPhone has been around almost. The touchscreen stops responding and the fix is to lock it and unlock again and it starts working. It happens right after you unlock it. If you watched the iPhone forums over the years you would have known that instead of trying to call those videos LAG. Nice Try...

It isn't a fix if it continues to happen later. Turning it off and on is called a workaround.
 
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mib1800

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You obviously have no clue.
[doublepost=1499541394][/doublepost]
Google it and you will find out more.

I googled.

Using "android lag", I got 22 million hits
Using "iPhone lag" I got 17 million hits.

Results doesn't seem that far off. Considering there are maybe 2-3 times more Android than iPhone and this is your dare, wouldn't YOU be saying that iPhone has a much worse lag issues than Android? Or are you going to explain away this with lame excuses?

P.S. using "galaxy lag" or "touch wiz lag" I got < 1 million hits. Does this mean iPhone is an absolute dud (in the lag department) compared to galaxy? You tell me. :p
 
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apolloa

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Hmm... I think I would have to say the google phones don't lag, like the Nexus or the Pixel. iOS devices are funny, my 6S is so smooth, but my 9.7" iPad Pro does lag slightly, not sure why but it's no biggy and is still far far far faster then my Sony tablet.
But my point is iOS devices can lag.
 

Rudi Xeno

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For me personally lag is something minimal that I experience on both my iOS and Android devices. I would day take a look at a Galaxy S8+ and see if the lag is too much for you as it exists in all phones no matter the OS.

If the S8 lags too much for you then...

Look at:

-OnePlus 5
-OnePlus 3T
-LG G6
-Google Pixel XL
-LG V20
-Sony Xperia XZ Premium
-HTC U11
[doublepost=1499873478][/doublepost]I would suggest either the Oneplus 5 or the Pixel XL. I'd steer clear of LG. I have had 3 successive LG phones (G4, V10, V20) brick due to bootloop. Also their RAM management is poor, so multi-tasking suffers.
 
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Michael Goff

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You can do your own research champ - Google's pretty easy to use these days.

Pointing out Android's lag problems sure seems to trigger a lot of people these days. Must be the fact that it takes 3x the amount of RAM, 4x the amount of CPU cores, and at least 2x the CPU clocks to even come close to iPhone performance. That's what happens when your entire OS UI runs on a language that's frankly the laughing stock among programmers in terms of performance. These performance issues will always be inherent until they port android to a better, non VM language. Till then, expect supercomputer specs as minimum requirements.

Oh boy I can't wait for more essays

Let’s go through those:
3x the RAM? Math is hard, I know, but the 7 Plus has 3gb and the S8/+ has 4. That’s not remotely true.
4x the CPU cores and 2x the clock speed? Not really relevant. Also, not true anymore with the A10 being a quad core. Apple has one of the fastest CPU on the market. Their single threaded beats everyone and their multi thread is a stone throw away as well.
 

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Let’s go through those:
3x the RAM? Math is hard, I know, but the 7 Plus has 3gb and the S8/+ has 4. That’s not remotely true.
4x the CPU cores and 2x the clock speed? Not really relevant. Also, not true anymore with the A10 being a quad core. Apple has one of the fastest CPU on the market. Their single threaded beats everyone and their multi thread is a stone throw away as well.
Research is hard, I know, but I was mostly talking about 6s vs the latest OnePlus. The 6s easily beat the S8 in phonebuff's tests

Bit late to the party there champ. I honestly don't care much for this dickmeasuring geek bench scores or whatever. I'm just here for the entertainment that comes from triggered android users realizing the S8 is still a pig
 
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Michael Goff

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Research is hard, I know, but I was mostly talking about 6s vs the latest OnePlus. The 6s easily beat the S8 in phonebuff's tests

Bit late to the party there champ. I honestly don't care much for this dickmeasuring geek bench scores or whatever. I'm just here for the entertainment that comes from triggered android users realizing the S8 is still a pig

The phone if test is not, in any way, indicative of real life usage. It's just for one side against another. They're pointless.

Edit: As a guy who has an S8 Plus and 7 Plus, I can tell you the S8 isn't a pig.
 
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Tig Bitties

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If you want a smooth Android, stay away from the Lag Plus 8, I mean S8. Get the Pixel XL #1, or the OnePlus 5. Or wait for the Essential phone which should be silky smooth.

Bets bet is to wait until October and get the Pixel 2, which will be the #1 best Android phone of 2017.
 
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Johns12

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My experience is, I have owned 5 IPhones. I now have an S7edge. Every IPhone I have owned lagged. Some, especially my IPhone 5 was frustrating at times. Still loved all of them . My S7edge has about the same amount of lag I experienced with my IPhones. What I find with my S7 is the lag is very inconsistent. Some days it's as smooth as silk, and the next day with nothing much different happening, it will sometimes lag.
 
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dk001

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My experience is, I have owned 5 IPhones. I now have an S7edge. Every IPhone I have owned lagged. Some, especially my IPhone 5 was frustrating at times. Still loved all of them . My S7edge has about the same amount of lag I experienced with my IPhones. What I find with my S7 is the lag is very inconsistent. Some days it's as smooth as silk, and the next day with nothing much different happening, it will sometimes lag.

One aspect I found helpful but can be frustrating.
  • With the iPhone lag is present and cannot be changed but is very user specific based on use. Apple does a decent job usually of masking it.
  • With Android you can change your launcher and turn on developer options, this though can eliminate or change function you may like. It is also very user dependent.
With the iPhone you are stuck unless you jailbreak
With Android you can use an alternative launcher, developer options or root

Choice is with the user - what they want

Last iPhones 6S+ and 7+ (stock)
Last Android Note 5 and Nexus 6P (Nova + Developer )
 
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mib1800

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If you want a smooth Android, stay away from the Lag Plus 8, I mean S8. Get the Pixel XL #1, or the OnePlus 5. Or wait for the Essential phone which should be silky smooth.

Bets bet is to wait until October and get the Pixel 2, which will be the #1 best Android phone of 2017.

Been using the s8+ for a while and I don't feel the "lag" some of you been talking about like some sort of broken record. Just check the last restart time of my phone was over 370 hours ago and the phone is still snappy and fast. To confirm did a geekbench 4 with phone as is now (no restart or killing tasks), the score (sc=2045 mc=6457) is no difference from when it was newly bought.

I dont use Touchwiz which is not as smooth as other launchers but I wouldnt call that lag just like I wouldnt call the occasional microstutters lag. Lamenting these micro-stutters or lack of smoothness (which btw have negligible impact on the speed of doing tasks under normal use when compared to say oneplus 5 or pixel or iphone) like the world's about to end is a bit over-the-top OCD imho.

Yes - you can go for OP5 or pixel but then you'll be losing lots of stuff like hardware (water resistant, great design/screen, camera, sensors etc) and samsung software which adds lots of functionalities over stock android (e.g. better multi-window, bixby, samsung connect/health/sidesync/flow/VR/pay/gear and many others). Personally, I think it is not worthwhile to forgo all these functions to avoid the so-called "lag" that has no significant impact on daily use. Unless of course you want to save some money go for a cheaper phone.
 
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mike2017nyc

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As much as I like Android System , I'm finally giving up on it:
1) Forget about fast interface scrolling on android and Smooth Application scrolling and smooth Web rendering in applocation versions of websites.
2) The main issue that Android has is a horrible Web rendering issue when using any browser , which has nothing to do with any phone brand, typing lag within many websites, and system starting acting up after few months of use.
Use Google Chrome on iPhone IOS system and every website scrolls super smooth. Use the same Google Chrome on Android and 30% (if not 50%) of all websites have very annoying, strong stutter while scrolling. And this is no matter whether you use Nexus, Samsung or Huawei phone!
3) This is not all. After 2-3 months of using any android phone, phones become very slow at times in opening Apps or Google Chrome Browser ( not all the time but on some days nothing but acting up )
4) Key stroke issues in many Web pages still present !!!! (Never ever there is delay in typing on IOS) .
IOS smooth scrolling, lack of slowing down after 3 months of use and lack of typing issues, have nothing to do with any magic tricks by apple. It simply has to do with having the right programming of operating system.
WHEN WE PAY $600 TO $900 FOR A FLAGSHIP phone , we cannot have the issues listed above! Google: Get your act together and do whatever it takes to create a normal smooth operating system (even if you need to rewrite or recode God damn everything!).
 

elf69

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Agree with your points in general.
only my mate 9 does not line up with your point number 3.

other than that, I do agree.
The mate 9 an other Huawei models have self cleaning adjusting program to combat this.
It's not perfect and only had reboot twice in little over a year due to lag/crash.

When had my iphone 6s+ NEVER had to reboot it though!
 

mib1800

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As much as I like Android System , I'm finally giving up on it:
1) Forget about fast interface scrolling on android and Smooth Application scrolling and smooth Web rendering in applocation versions of websites.
2) The main issue that Android has is a horrible Web rendering issue when using any browser , which has nothing to do with any phone brand, typing lag within many websites, and system starting acting up after few months of use.
Use Google Chrome on iPhone IOS system and every website scrolls super smooth. Use the same Google Chrome on Android and 30% (if not 50%) of all websites have very annoying, strong stutter while scrolling. And this is no matter whether you use Nexus, Samsung or Huawei phone!
3) This is not all. After 2-3 months of using any android phone, phones become very slow at times in opening Apps or Google Chrome Browser ( not all the time but on some days nothing but acting up )
4) Key stroke issues in many Web pages still present !!!! (Never ever there is delay in typing on IOS) .
IOS smooth scrolling, lack of slowing down after 3 months of use and lack of typing issues, have nothing to do with any magic tricks by apple. It simply has to do with having the right programming of operating system.
WHEN WE PAY $600 TO $900 FOR A FLAGSHIP phone , we cannot have the issues listed above! Google: Get your act together and do whatever it takes to create a normal smooth operating system (even if you need to rewrite or recode God damn everything!).

Nonsense really. Did you just copy and paste this info from years ago?
 

mike2017nyc

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No this is a current stage of Android operating system. However , i do agree with the first commenter to my post about Huawei Mate 9. I do remember that even Huawei Mate 7 had way less stutter and less lag in chrome browser than the same browser on any Samsung phone .
 

Voodoochild346

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No this is a current stage of Android operating system. However , i do agree with the first commenter to my post about Huawei Mate 9. I do remember that even Huawei Mate 7 had way less stutter and less lag in chrome browser than the same browser on any Samsung phone .
Stop using Chrome and use Samsung Internet. It's the best browser on mobile and you can use it on any phone. STOP USING CHROME.
 

elf69

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Chrome and android in theory should work well together.
In theory they are both google products.

like safari and ios/osx works well, again both apple products.
Yes I know not that simple!

I use chrome on my mate 9 and safari on osx and ios.
 

YaBe

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Any Xiaomi.... I would guess, I had great experience with Mi Note 4, Mi Mix and Mi 6 (even thought the latter has been with me for only 4 months.)
 

Phil A.

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Stop using Chrome and use Samsung Internet. It's the best browser on mobile and you can use it on any phone. STOP USING CHROME.

I really dislike the Samsung Internet browser, primarily because it doesn't really follow the Android design language: buttons at the bottom, single speed scrolling, etc, make it seem to me like they're trying to copy Safari on iOS too much.

If I want an iOS experience, I'll use my iPhone and when I'm using an android phone I want my apps to follow the Android design language and guidelines: I don't want some half-baked iOS style app!
 
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Voodoochild346

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I really dislike the Samsung Internet browser, primarily because it doesn't really follow the Android design language: buttons at the bottom, single speed scrolling, etc, make it seem to me like they're trying to copy Safari on iOS too much.

If I want an iOS experience, I'll use my iPhone and when I'm using an android phone I want my apps to follow the Android design language and guidelines: I don't want some half-baked iOS style app!
Well, that's your decision. I was giving him a suggestion because all his complaints seem to be in regards to Chrome. You can use Firefox if you want. Your world homie.
 
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Tig Bitties

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As much as I like Android System , I'm finally giving up on it:
1) Forget about fast interface scrolling on android and Smooth Application scrolling and smooth Web rendering in applocation versions of websites.
2) The main issue that Android has is a horrible Web rendering issue when using any browser , which has nothing to do with any phone brand, typing lag within many websites, and system starting acting up after few months of use.
Use Google Chrome on iPhone IOS system and every website scrolls super smooth. Use the same Google Chrome on Android and 30% (if not 50%) of all websites have very annoying, strong stutter while scrolling. And this is no matter whether you use Nexus, Samsung or Huawei phone!
3) This is not all. After 2-3 months of using any android phone, phones become very slow at times in opening Apps or Google Chrome Browser ( not all the time but on some days nothing but acting up )
4) Key stroke issues in many Web pages still present !!!! (Never ever there is delay in typing on IOS) .
IOS smooth scrolling, lack of slowing down after 3 months of use and lack of typing issues, have nothing to do with any magic tricks by apple. It simply has to do with having the right programming of operating system.
WHEN WE PAY $600 TO $900 FOR A FLAGSHIP phone , we cannot have the issues listed above! Google: Get your act together and do whatever it takes to create a normal smooth operating system (even if you need to rewrite or recode God damn everything!).


That's true for Samsung phones with their Lagwiz UI, it's a FACT that over time, 4 to 6 months down the road, those phones will start showing signs of hiccups and micro stutters. I have owned tons of Galaxy devices over the years, EVERY ONE OF THEM LAGS, even the S8+.

Get the Google stock Android phone, the Pixel XL or the upcoming Pixel 2 XL, those are completely different than a Samsung or LG phone, the Pixel phones remain smooth months after they're new.
 
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