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Klyster

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The problem is to me with my S8 (updated and then reinstalled without backup) is that apps lag. Just for example:

- Google Play Music: Yep, I cannot use Samsung Music because I cannot see the music by VA - artists / compilations and other programs I don't like the interface
- OneNote: Opening the keyboard
- ToDo: Animations
- WhatsApp: Opening the keyboard
- Messenger: Transition between apps
- Google Chrome: Animations
- rarely the system (I tried TouchWiz and Nova)

Then the apps crash sometime (Messenger, Facebook) oder doesn't work well (CrossDJ that I just NEED for my work - the sound is buzzed)

I have problems with the music playlists which I cannot just made with iTunes - again I need this for my work, so I cannot see the BPM for the playlist.

Again, these are just examples; there are other general things which I don't like (ecosystem, pass sync over the systems, iMessage...).

Unfortunately, I must admit to myself that iOS works just better for my stuff. I hope, I can return the S8 back and buy the iPhone 8. Don't know... I'm torn :S
If it's for your work, it's a no brainer.
Get an iPhone if it works, I wouldn't hesitate if it was affecting my job.

Whatsapp keyboard not working seems strange, I'm using my old Note 5 and the keyboard is fine...
I don't have lag either, running Android 7, all seems fine.
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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The problem is to me with my S8 (updated and then reinstalled without backup) is that apps lag. Just for example:

- Google Play Music: Yep, I cannot use Samsung Music because I cannot see the music by VA - artists / compilations and other programs I don't like the interface
- OneNote: Opening the keyboard
- ToDo: Animations
- WhatsApp: Opening the keyboard
- Messenger: Transition between apps
- Google Chrome: Animations
- rarely the system (I tried TouchWiz and Nova)

Then the apps crash sometime (Messenger, Facebook) oder doesn't work well (CrossDJ that I just NEED for my work - the sound is buzzed)

I have problems with the music playlists which I cannot just made with iTunes - again I need this for my work, so I cannot see the BPM for the playlist.

Again, these are just examples; there are other general things which I don't like (ecosystem, pass sync over the systems, iMessage...).

Unfortunately, I must admit to myself that iOS works just better for my stuff. I hope, I can return the S8 back and buy the iPhone 8. Don't know... I'm torn :S

Curious... I don't own but my other half does.
Google Play Music she does with her car - no issue
WhatsApp - uses all the time and no issues
Messenger - has an issue with SMS not coming through - think it's tied to the Samsung Sleep issue
Other than turning off the AT&T addons, it is stock. Did turn off animations in Setting / Developer
She dislikes iOS ;)

Hope it works out for you whichever way you go.
 

Wrathwitch

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Dec 4, 2009
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I have to admit that posts like this kind of irritate me. I have had one iPhone, one HTC phone , a BB phone, and 4 Samsung phones. With the exception of the BB and the HTC (old windows phone) I haven't noticed any hard lag on any of them that couldn't be fixed with a factory reset.

The bottom line is that every device (PC and Mac included). Eventually need a refresh. I had my stock android messenger on my Note4 lag pretty bad when bringing it up as well as the camera after a OS update, I factory reset it and it ran perfectly.

Files eventually corrupt, cache builds and laying an OS on top of another vs setting a factory reset opens the door for glitches in both platforms.
 

KingslayerG5

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My G5 (Sprint) didn't lag going from MM to N. My Pixel didn't lag going from N to O. Heck, even my S7 edge surprisingly got smoother after a recent security patch update.

The ones that won't lag are the ones with stock Android like the Nexus and Pixel phones. They definitely age the best when it comes to fluidity.

Too bad I sold my Pixel 2.5 weeks ago. Couldn't be recognized on Mac and Oreo kinda killed its standby. Still the most fluid Android experience I ever had. Like liquid UI.

I'm an LG guy because I really like some of the features they offer like wide-angle lens and their LG Backup. So I will stick to LG, Motorola, Nokia (HMD), HTC/Google but find stock Android bland and updating overrated.

I only like Samsung for Samsung Pay. Never cared for awkward curved displays which slows down my typing. Note8 with 6gb of RAM looks nice though. 6gb RAM should be bare minimum on Android flagships moving forward.
 

Vivian125

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Knoott really, for me even an iPhone 2G has smoother animation than my new Xiaomi Mix 3 and My old Galaxy Note 8. Calculator opening was just a blink of an eye and it launched on my iPhone 2g. While calculator app on my note 8 took two seconds gosh.. calculator app isnt even that heavy app.

I do like android because of widgets and OS for a smartphone , however especially after 6 months of usage i notice that my galaxy note 8 is not that fast as before.

Android - After 4 to 6 months expect Lag, Battery drain, stutters
iOS - 4 to 6 years before it lags (including iPhone 5/5S In Witch is still fast on its Last Version)
 

Klyster

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Knoott really, for me even an iPhone 2G has smoother animation than my new Xiaomi Mix 3 and My old Galaxy Note 8. Calculator opening was just a blink of an eye and it launched on my iPhone 2g. While calculator app on my note 8 took two seconds gosh.. calculator app isnt even that heavy app.

I do like android because of widgets and OS for a smartphone , however especially after 6 months of usage i notice that my galaxy note 8 is not that fast as before.

Android - After 4 to 6 months expect Lag, Battery drain, stutters
iOS - 4 to 6 years before it lags (including iPhone 5/5S In Witch is still fast on its Last Version)

https://www.google.com/search?q=my+...VgprgAhVOTn0KHVhYB9MQpwUIJg&biw=1100&bih=1982

A quick search shows iPhones can lag too.

My Note 8 (a friend now owns it) and Note 9 are lag free.
I hardly hear anyone moaning about lag these days.
 
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YaBe

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My Mi Mix 2 has been running for the past year and t has been flawless.. no lag no stutter. I think it is a myth nowadays, like the bluescreen in Windows, it was there, but things changed!!
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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One of my Android devices has an uptime of 403 days. That's over a year without reboot so how come it hasn't lagged? Must be broken.
 

Tsepz

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Jan 24, 2013
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My Mate 20 Pro has held up very well, just like the Mate 10 Pro I reviewed in late 2017.

Most Androids I have had haven't really slowed down although they have had the odd stutter here and there much like any device, but the Huaweis have really been beasts in that they operate with great speed consistently.
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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Been using a Razer for over a year and this thing still rocks like it was new. Other than the 8.1 update, I have yet to have to reset, restore, or other type activities. Have had to do the reset/restore to my 8+ a couple of times.
 

Johns12

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Dec 10, 2008
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I have to add to the chorus. My Note 8 is over a year old and I notice no lag. I do reboot it every few weeks. I did that with my IPhones also.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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Rubbish, my S9 is almost a year old and runs as new, actually it runs ever better with the new one ui.

I'm still on my S9+ since release day. No lag whatsoever. I'm not running the one ui though. I'll wait until I get the S10+ to experience that.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
My S5 doesn't lag, my S6 doesn't lag, my S8+ doesnt lag, my Note8 doesn't lag. You can't say others are lying because you had a different experience, if you're suffering from lags and slowdowns I'd check which Apps you have installed and clear the caches.
My iPhone 7 lagged pretty bad
 

pika2000

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Android will always lag because of many things:
- architecture wise, Android already has more overhead than iOS. It is made worse when OEMs dumps even more overhead with their own skins and customizations. Apple went quickly to code closer to the hardware with metal. Google doesn’t have such luxury (despite Vulkan) considering the various hardware config and OEMs.
- with iOS 12, we know the scheduler plays an important role in making a device feels snappier. Apple can do this easily since they design their own chips. Android OEMs don’t have such luxury as not only they rely on some one else (Google) for the OS, the also rely on the likes of Qualcomm for the drivers. Add on thin margins, most OEMs just don’t have the resources to optimize anything.
- Apple is quite strict on their App Store. Google is more lax, thus many developers don’t even care making a proper app. Many uses existing app wrappers or engines. Heck, even Google’s own apps are bloated that they have to create a “Go” version of their own apps. Add on the ad engines inside most Android apps that continually communicating with ad servers, you are already penalized performance wise. That millisecond here and there adds up.

Luckily for Android, just like Windows, Moore’s law help them as the hardware gets better and better. Most mid range devices form 2017 onwards with at least 4GB of RAM (6GB being the sweet spot for Android) runs quite smoothly, better if it’s stock/Android One.

My Mi A1 with the aging SD625 and 4GB RAM still runs quite smoothly, even after two major OS updates (from Nougat to Pie). My worse experience is my Galaxy A5 2017, which lags like a cheap phone.

Tips for great Android phone performance:
- if you can afford it, get at least a phone with 6GB or RAM, 4GB minimum. If you are really strict on budget, go for Android Go devices. These are cheap, but barebones (1GB RAM, 8GB storage is the typical spec), it the Android Go edition is more streamlined than regular version.
- uninstall/disable apps you don’t use. This includes Google’s own bloatware. I mean when the last time you use Hangouts? Unfortunately many of these cannot be uninstalled, so disabling them is your next best thing.
- don’t fill up your storage. The less space you have, the slower you will find your phone will be.
- stop downloading useless apps. Many people are still downloading crap apps like flashlight, battery saving, etc. These apps are laddened with ads that will take CPU time to communicate with their servers.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
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My s9+ has lagged on occasion, but its rare. After the Pie update, it is very snappy and smooth now. And the battery even lasts longer. My Note 8 lagged pretty badly at times, and my S7 Edge at the end of its life was almost unusable due to how badly it lagged. All phones lag, depends on the APP and whats its doing at that time. I have seen an iPhone lag. Just not as bad as I have seen Android devices. Anyone who says theirs doesn't lag is lying. They all lag at times.

Nope, my S9+ didn't lag yet. The only issue I've had was several rare reboots.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
Denial. Nice word. Personally I am amazed you are assuming that your experience and personal knowledge entitles you to apply it to everyone else while calling those who disagree with "liars". You are sadly the one in denial.
You came to the wrong forum with this nonsense. Unlike other threads here, we have almost all gone to Android and back multiple times. For every Android phone I have had with lag, I have had an iPhone which gets a software update which causes lag or springboard crashes. So kindly spare us your "facts"
 
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dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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You came to the wrong forum with this nonsense. Unlike other threads here, we have almost all gone to Android and back multiple times. For every Android phone I have had with lag, I have had an iPhone which gets a software update which causes lag or springboard crashes. So kindly spare us your "facts"

Not disagreeing totally.
Galaxy S3 - lag
Note 4 - lag
Note 5 lag till I switched to Nova
Razer - no lag
Note 9 - a few are used by peers in our test lab - no lag

Depending on how you use them, whether iOS or Android, you can get lag. To assume that everyone gets lag and if you disagree you are a liar, that is the epitome of denial. Self denial.
 

Klyster

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Dec 7, 2013
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Again, good for you. Maybe you don't know what lag is then? Because all devices lag. My PC lags at times. Phones lag. I have owned probably 30 android phones over the last 10 years, and every one has lagged at one point or another. My S7 Edge after a reset, once it got the latest software update lagged bad. Resets did not help. It was not as usable because of that. You can google any model phone with lag in the word and you will find many links of people complaining about lag. So for someone to say theres doesn't lag is untrue because all devices lag. It just means you either don't know what lag is, or it hasn't shown itself to be as obvious for you to notice it or not.

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No, they are lying because there isn't a device that doesn't lag period. It's the fanboys that like to spread false information that want people to not know their devices lag.

Yet here I am watching my partner using her S7 edge, which I must add is a messy nightmare of social media apps and no discernible order, but funnily enough, works absolutely fine.

My definition of lag is pretty much the dictionary definition, can't keep up with, hence lags.

What's your definition? Any micro stutter?

Anyway, I dont put a lot of weight in what you've said and it contradicts what others and I have experienced.

I go by my own usage, what I've experienced, what people who I know or trust have experienced, what can be reasonably demonstrated, not assertions based on anecdotal evidence.
 
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Tig Bitties

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Do Android phones lag ? Yes. Do iPhone's lag ? Yes.

To me the Pixel line is by far the smoothest Android in my opinion. But they can lag too, due to a bad security update.

I really don't think any smartphone is 100% lag free. iPhone's lag as well.

I just prefer the Pixel line, as I find them the least laggy, and smoothest. But there is no perfect phone.

In the past having owned several Samsung phones over the years, they have lagged the most. Last Galaxy phone I owned, the S8+ absolutely had stutters and hiccups here and there. My co-workers all own the Galaxy S7 Edge and that phone is lag city, no questioning. We have eight S7's in our office, and brand new they lagged out of the box pretty bad, and a week later, a month later, a year later they just lag bad .

But...the stock Android phone of the day the Nexus 6P could lag too though. Just not nearly as bad as that S7 Edge.

Will we ever see a smartphone with zero lag, zero microstutters, zero hiccups ? Right now no phone is completely lag free.
 
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torana355

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Yes I do, but I want your definition of lag because what you describe doesn't match the accepted definition of lag.

Define lag.
I think this is a good point. All phones micro stutter here and there. I think its the frequent major stutters that older android phones had is what people think of when they talk about lag. Its all about what a person is describing when they say their phones lags, its subjective.
 

dk001

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So all the google searched that say otherwise that the phones have lag are not factual and yours knowledge is? Laugh.
.t.

Laugh it up all you want. Experiences vary. I am not saying lag does not exist. I am saying your statement that if someone doesn't;t have lag on Android they are lying is a farce. Show me where Google facts say that lag affects 100% of all Android for all users. It doesn't.
 
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