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Are there any Android phones that don't lag over time?
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For the price Samsung is charging, they definitely only focus in piling on features and aesthetic. Actual user experience doesn’t seem to be a priority. The Chinese OEMs like Xiaomi and Huawei are definitely leaping over Samsung with less expensive yet more innovative phones with a more consistent UI and better user experience.
In the past I would have agreed but the S9 onwards have been great phones with fantastic hardware and an ever improving software experience. The anti Samsung narrative is wearing very thin.
It really isn’t any different. I’ve used the S7 edge, note 8 and S9 plus side by side with my iPhones over a period of 3-4 months each. And in each case the Samsung phone was no different in terms of performance over the iPhone.
It has nothing to do with the hardware(phone) as it has everything to do with software at very low level that cannot be fixed at anytime unless they want to break all of the compatibility. While Android got better at lag issue it's still present after some initial usage at different parts of the system developed Google, just so there is no confusion that phone manufacturers are introducing the lag by customizing the software. No matter what they tell you Android is still a virtual machine with very bad junk collection and accumulation.
Android is the sole post iOS mobile OS that doesn't cache available on screen interaction. You might have noticed that when scrolling the screen on any Android compared to iOS, Blackberry 10, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, MeeGo. Scrolling feels so flimsy like screen is slipping your finger unlike other OSes that have weight to it, that's because there is micro lag as OS loads on the go that you are scrolling the screen and introduces jitter in animation (that is now being handled by 120Mhz screens).
Most of the Android low level development problems are being buffed out by hardware one way or the other. Android really matured on 6.0 but that was only few years ago and in the meantime many competitive mobile OS went defunct because they didn't want to adapt Google model and instead went with Apple model. Had Blackberry or Palm or Nokia licensed their modern OS to others for dirt cheap instead of doing the hardware game too today's market would have been very different because people who vote with their wallets would opt for better operating phone for the same money. And back in the day like 2013 when Android was miserable at 4.2.2 build it would have been no brainer which OS to get.
Android is the sole post iOS mobile OS that doesn't cache available on screen interaction. You might have noticed that when scrolling the screen on any Android compared to iOS, Blackberry 10, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, MeeGo. Scrolling feels so flimsy like screen is slipping your finger unlike other OSes that have weight to it, that's because there is micro lag as OS loads on the go that you are scrolling the screen and introduces jitter in animation (that is now being handled by 120Mhz screens).
Most of the Android low level development problems are being buffed out by hardware one way or the other. Android really matured on 6.0 but that was only few years ago and in the meantime many competitive mobile OS went defunct because they didn't want to adapt Google model and instead went with Apple model. Had Blackberry or Palm or Nokia licensed their modern OS to others for dirt cheap instead of doing the hardware game too today's market would have been very different because people who vote with their wallets would opt for better operating phone for the same money. And back in the day like 2013 when Android was miserable at 4.2.2 build it would have been no brainer which OS to get.
You can tell android has no "lag" any more cause the die hard iOS fans now bring up "privacy" as a reason to pick iPhone.
Wearing thin? Even consumers realize that Samsung phones are not worth their salt anymore.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ion-had-its-weakest-quarter-since-the-note-7/
Samsung make high quality products that got me are still the best all round android device. I’m not willing to put £800 down for a Huwawei phone. I don’t have any confidence in Huwawei as a product or fir customer services because they don’t have much of a history in the UK. I have in the past and would quite happily pay for a flagship Samsung phone because I have confidence in their products.
Apple also had lower than expected sales. Does that mean people don’t think iPhones are worth it anymore?
Samsung phones not worth their salt but still the biggest selling OEM in the world.
I upgraded to the Note 9 in September. This replaced my S8+.
The S8+ performance before I upgraded it was very acceptable. Can't say the Note 9 feels much quicker.
The S8+ performance before I upgraded it was very acceptable. Can't say the Note 9 feels much quicker.
I've been reading up on this for a while now and it seems that IOS just handles memory better. Android, from what I've read seem to keep everything active which is why you can download on Android. All apps are somewhat active in memory, wherein IOS it is on stand by until it's needed hence why the IOD so limited to usually one app at a time, no real multitasking or anything as the whole phone is designed for longevity and battery life.
So if you have 25 apps on Android running, 1 runs full memory for the app and 24 are limited to maybe 60% or greater of its total ram when in the background where IOS just kills it in standby and it doesn't affect the usage of the phone.
So IOS will seem faster I am guessing overall.
I have an s8 and yes I have lagged a bit, however, I don't use my phone that heavy but I am going IOS next phone probably.
So if you have 25 apps on Android running, 1 runs full memory for the app and 24 are limited to maybe 60% or greater of its total ram when in the background where IOS just kills it in standby and it doesn't affect the usage of the phone.
So IOS will seem faster I am guessing overall.
I have an s8 and yes I have lagged a bit, however, I don't use my phone that heavy but I am going IOS next phone probably.
That's an oversimplification.
- iOS does multitask. How does one play music in the background while surfing, how does the os keeps alarms and schedules while you run other apps or play games? Don't confuse multitask by having apps in memory. Android put apps to sleep as well. Try using an Android phone with 2GB of RAM, and you'll find you can barely keep an app open, while iOS do better with the same amount of RAM. If Android needs 6GB of RAM to "multitask," that doesn't say much. Windows can multitask better with less RAM than Android.
- As an architecture, Android already at a disadvantage. Just the way it load apps and draw them are already "laggy" compared to the likes of iOS and even Windows Phone. Go back a few years where low end Windows Phone runs smoother than even a mid-range Android phone. It's the architecture itself. There's a reason why Google themselves is trying new options, eg. Fuschia OS, Android Go, etc.
- Luckily for Android, Moore's law is helping the OS perform better with leaps of performance improvements on every new snapdragon iteration.
Couple of observations and a question for you.
Have a Razer and an iPhone 8+. With animations on the Razer at 0.5 this thing seems to run rings around the 8+.
I am not seeing "lag" on either device of any note.
On the 8+, apps in the task manager frequently need to reload instead of taking up where leaving off. Even at time just swapping back and forth between two apps like a tech app and a ref doc. Don't see that on the Razer near as often.
Is this kill app and have it reload what you are referencing when you say iOS handles men management better? Cause between the two I find Android does much better especially if I am bouncing between 2-3 apps.
The Razer has 8GB of RAM, as much as the typical Windows computer. Do you think it can have more apps in memory than an iPhone with 3GB of RAM? Well no **** Sherlock.
The question should be, why does a mobile OS needs that much RAM to perform well? I mean even many Windows gaming machines come with just 8GB of RAM.
All you can give is music playing in the background and alarm
. Well, iOS is just limited to these. Android is so much more capable. It run rings around iOS in terms of interop and true multitask
I'm not sure anymore, the goal posts have shifted.
These old phones only had 1GB ram.
Multitasking wasn't an issue really.
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Must agree with you here. And even then, take marques such as HTC or even LG who make handsets. The latter is known world wide, yet their flagships have suffered from component failures in the last few years. Their newest flagship has an excellent DAC and very good filming capabilities, but spending $700-1000 on a phone that may go bonkers in less than six months is not wise. You'd be better off wasting that money on cheap plonk for a year.
Honestly, get a Pixel phone if you want the best UI fluidity (for the longest amount of time, months/years after its launch).
I have a Pixel 1 (Google Fi) and it's more enjoyable to use than my S8 (ATT). The 1st Pixel still moves like buttah.
I have a Pixel 1 (Google Fi) and it's more enjoyable to use than my S8 (ATT). The 1st Pixel still moves like buttah.
The Razer has 8GB of RAM, as much as the typical Windows computer. Do you think it can have more apps in memory than an iPhone with 3GB of RAM? Well no **** Sherlock.
The question should be, why does a mobile OS needs that much RAM to perform well? I mean even many Windows gaming machines come with just 8GB of RAM.
Why I asked. Personally I feel that Apple deliberately minimizes RAM (which is cheap) in the iPhones as a result short changing their Ram Management. This flies in the face of the post which I was asking to.
As to the number of apps in mem, not the issue. I can have just a few (4-5) in my iPhone and I get the whole reload instead of picking up from where it left off very frequently. I can have this happen when flipping back and forth between two apps. I get this far less on the Razer.
My question back to you: if it is cost effective and helps the performance plus helps future proofing ... why not have that much RAM?
Because you're supposed to think different by overpaying for less features just like paying for an iPhone 6 with 1GB of RAM.
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Of course iOS does multitasking! Well back to my iPhone writing an e-mail while listening to music with YouTube in PiP mode, while uploading pictures to Google Drive while downloading 8 STEM wav audio files from the internet after I quickly replied a WhatsApp notification.
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Because the hardware supports 8GB of RAM. Also, OEMs don't have full control of OS development so they pass the OS with more RAM. The Pixel 3 has four GB. What are you complaining about?