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No one is bending my ipad, not the russian dude, not the jerry rigged dude. I had a 1.5mm stainless steel plate cut along with some machined aluminum braces. looks nice and industrial, adds some weight to the ipad but I have no fear of leaving it in a backpack.

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Guess no pencil charging for you then? At least one way to even the device out when lying on the camera bump side!
 
Guess no pencil charging for you then? At least one way to even the device out when lying on the camera bump side!

yes this blocks the pencil charging port, at least in the current form. I'll have to revisit this solution if I do get the pencil. Other than the pencil charging port, all other ports remain accessible. I'm not a huge fan of the USB-C audio dongle sticking out right in the middle (compared to a 3.5mm jack at the bottom) but i'll adjust.
 
No one is bending my ipad, not the russian dude, not the jerry rigged dude. I had a 1.5mm stainless steel plate cut along with some machined aluminum braces. looks nice and industrial, adds some weight to the ipad but I have no fear of leaving it in a backpack.

That is ridiculous. No person should have to go this far to protect a device that should have never had the problem in the first place. That IS unacceptable.
 
That is ridiculous. No person should have to go this far to protect a device that should have never had the problem in the first place. That IS unacceptable.

Dude I fully, 100% agree with you. It's absolutely ridiculous how apple mocks us with their ridiculous thin-first design, the whole 3.5mm jack situation. But all things considered, I still want the superfast A12X processor, the 120hz screen, the ecosystem. Apple deserves our collective middle finger. But at the end i'm a pragmatic guy, so I designed my own solution.
 
What a mess. I’m very disappointed, but also relieved the 10.5 exists and is honestly comparable or better in most features.

Look, it’s perfectly fine to be happy about your purchase and only you know what is important to you. But that 10.5 is “better in most features” is simply not true. It is great, but slightly worse in every feature compared to the 11”.
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Dude I fully, 100% agree with you. It's absolutely ridiculous how apple mocks us with their ridiculous thin-first design, the whole 3.5mm jack situation. But all things considered, I still want the superfast A12X processor, the 120hz screen, the ecosystem. Apple deserves our collective middle finger. But at the end i'm a pragmatic guy, so I designed my own solution.

Oooor.... just take care of your iPad and not put it in the steel chastity belt.
 
Dude I fully, 100% agree with you. It's absolutely ridiculous how apple mocks us with their ridiculous thin-first design, the whole 3.5mm jack situation. But all things considered, I still want the superfast A12X processor, the 120hz screen, the ecosystem. Apple deserves our collective middle finger. But at the end i'm a pragmatic guy, so I designed my own solution.
If giving Apple $1000-$1800+ is giving them the middle finger, I'm sure there's a few here who wouldn't mind you flipping the bird at them. ;):p
 
Look, it’s perfectly fine to be happy about your purchase and only you know what is important to you. But that 10.5 is “better in most features” is simply not true. It is great, but slightly worse in every feature compared to the 11”.

You are misquoting me. I said "comparable or better" not "better in most features".

Examples of where 10.5 is better:
It is NOT slightly worse in the feature of a headphone jack. The 10.5 is clearly better in this regard.
It is NOT slightly worse in terms of camera. The 10.5 with the same camera + Optical Image Stabilization and a 6 element lens instead of 5 is clearly better in this regard. Yes some comparisons of images can look better because the new CPU does a slightly better job of cleanup after the image is shot...but that's dependent on scene. Video is much better because of OIS.

I'm not going to continue going through the list because if you scroll back I already made a list of the pros and cons.

I stand by "comparable or better".
 
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You are misquoting me. I said "comparable or better" not "better in most features".

Examples of where 10.5 is better:
It is NOT slightly worse in the feature of a headphone jack. The 10.5 is clearly better in this regard.
It is NOT slightly worse in terms of camera. The 10.5 with the same camera + Optical Image Stabilization and a 6 element lens instead of 5 is clearly better in this regard. Yes some comparisons of images can look better because the new CPU does a slightly better job of cleanup after the image is shot...but that's dependent on scene. Video is much better because of OIS.

I'm not going to continue going through the list because if you scroll back I already made a list of the pros and cons.

I stand by "comparable or better".


The new iPad has the larger pixel sensor of the S series phones but with a 5 element and not 6 and no OIS. Aside from using it for AR, I rarely take pics with my iPad, that's what the iPhone is for. And if I do take pics with the iPad, it's usually a non issue. Probably a cost cutting maneuver or if it was thicker the iPad case would have not protected the camera lens. Either way I'm fine with this confession. I also don't miss all the additional holes on the device and different buttons protruding from the sides. The new style feels much more uniform in hand.

I know some hate the headphone jack being taken away. And I personally don't need it, but for those people, I'm selling my 512 GB Celluar models from last year.
 
Which is the EXACT same sensor as the 10.5", correct?

No, it’s a smaller sensor. Old iPad has the smaller sensor with OIS and the New iPad has better low light but no OIS and a 5 element instead of 6.
 
No, it’s a smaller sensor. Old iPad has the smaller sensor with OIS and the New iPad has better low light but no OIS and a 5 element instead of 6.

May I ask where you found the information on the sensor size? I’ve searched everywhere and can’t find the sensor size and light sensitivity changes you are suggesting. Thanks for any links.
 
I read it among the reviews when the new unit dropped. It was reported on the differences between the old and the new unfit because the 5 element lens was such a big deal. Either way if I’m right or wrong or if the article was redacted it doesn’t matter.

I just use the device and am happy with it. I have both and the new one is much better than the old in just about every way except price which I think we are seeing the results of apples greed in stock price and lack of innovation on the phone side.

This is where apple needs to get their butts in gear and innovate on software. The iPad Pro is capable of running like a X86 machine as it’s got the power. But there are many other limitations. So they need to do an iPad OS and give us a mouse and file system. But I think they know this would cannibalize Mac sales.

You can’t keep growing forever as a company.
 
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No one is bending my ipad, not the russian dude, not the jerry rigged dude. I had a 1.5mm stainless steel plate cut along with some machined aluminum braces. looks nice and industrial, adds some weight to the ipad but I have no fear of leaving it in a backpack.

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That is awesome! The only issue I see is that if you drop the iPad, its corners are unprotected.
 
Dude. You need to Etsy that thing!
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Make one “star” shaped covering the corners and a across the length and breadth.

Not clear that there is demand at this point. Do you want one ?
I was thinking about covering the corners but I'm worried about obstructing the antenna lines. In the current state wifi connectivity doesn't seem impacted at all, 300mbps on speed test.
 
Not clear that there is demand at this point. Do you want one ?
I was thinking about covering the corners but I'm worried about obstructing the antenna lines. In the current state wifi connectivity doesn't seem impacted at all, 300mbps on speed test.

Oops never thought about the antenna.
 
My 2018 12.9'' has a slight curve straight out of the box, it's not bent but it's curved for sure. I checked my 10.5 and it's also curved the same way (screen curved inward slightly).
 
My 2018 12.9'' has a slight curve straight out of the box, it's not bent but it's curved for sure. I checked my 10.5 and it's also curved the same way (screen curved inward slightly).

Do you notice gaps when laying flat on a table? Or do you only notice this when looking at the top edge sideways?
 
No one is bending my ipad, not the russian dude, not the jerry rigged dude. I had a 1.5mm stainless steel plate cut along with some machined aluminum braces. looks nice and industrial, adds some weight to the ipad but I have no fear of leaving it in a backpack.

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No offense, but that does not look nice at all. To each his own, but this whole bending thing has been blown way out of proportion. I’m pretty sure it effects less than half a percent of anyone who’s bought the new iPad Pro.
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That is ridiculous. No person should have to go this far to protect a device that should have never had the problem in the first place. That IS unacceptable.

What’s ridiculous is this whole bending thing. It has been blown way out of proportion and now people are doing this to their iPads? It’s kind of hilarious and laughable, honestly. Anything from the first iPad to the new iPad Pro is going to bed if force is applied to it. It’s that simple. If you take care of your stuff, and are congnizant of force not being applied then you will have no problems.
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I agree, but my point is I have never heard of another product arriving bent right out of the box. I would think the box itself would protect the product from damage. Sure we can all move on and not make a big deal out of it, but still the very idea that a packaged product is bent before even being used, makes one wonder how that could even occur.

This issue isn’t the box. The issue is it obviously had force applied to it BEFORE it was placed in the box. It would be impossible for it to get bent in transport in the box. Impossible. Any force required to bend it through the box would destroy it not bend it.

With millions of products leaving the factor, there are bound to be issues here and there of damaged products making it through quality inspection and placed in the box for shipping. We’re humans. We all make mistakes.
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Look, it’s perfectly fine to be happy about your purchase and only you know what is important to you. But that 10.5 is “better in most features” is simply not true. It is great, but slightly worse in every feature compared to the 11”.
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Oooor.... just take care of your iPad and not put it in the steel chastity belt.

This. People are making way way way way too much over this bending issue. It’s few and far between. Simple care will prevent it from bending. It’s that simple.
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Dude I fully, 100% agree with you. It's absolutely ridiculous how apple mocks us with their ridiculous thin-first design, the whole 3.5mm jack situation. But all things considered, I still want the superfast A12X processor, the 120hz screen, the ecosystem. Apple deserves our collective middle finger. But at the end i'm a pragmatic guy, so I designed my own solution.

I don’t think Apple is mocking us. They are making design choices. The 3.5mm jack is a thing of the past. I casn’t Believe people are still going on about it. Wireless headphones are the future, corded headphones or not. They had to make that transition at some point and they decided to do it when they did it.

Personally, I think this whole thinness thing has gone to far, but that’s what the buying people of people shows Apple most people want. Thin and light. The thinner anything is it is less durable - anything. I wish it would be the thickness of the camera, a little heavier, and a litter sturdier, but it’s not like any of this was a surprise. I knew exactly what I was buying and it was my choice to make the purchase. If the product isn’t everything you want, then either don’t buy it or live with it. It’s that simple.

There are tablets with 3.5mm jacks, and thicker, and more durable. If that’s what one wants that’s what one should buy.
 
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Do you notice gaps when laying flat on a table? Or do you only notice this when looking at the top edge sideways?
On mine you can see the curve when laying it flat on a table, screen facing down. There is space in the middle and gets less as it goes towards the ends of the iPad. It's even more obvious when you turn the screen on.
 
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