Looks like I have a Week 39 phone, en route for delivery tomorrow. 7 Plus 128GB.
Did you do the express replacement option, or is this just a new order? (or something else?)
Looks like I have a Week 39 phone, en route for delivery tomorrow. 7 Plus 128GB.
How do you tell what week it is?
Did you do the express replacement option, or is this just a new order? (or something else?)
I just spoke to apple about my issue. They told me I would have to go through AT&T and swap it out since it's during the 14 day period. If I do that then I'm without a phone until mid November. The issue I'm having is sounds on my videos. It's hard to describe but it almost sounds like the ocean or wind. I do have the hissing sound but it's only if I put my ear up to the back of the phone. Do you all have the sound I'm trying to describe on your videos? It is louder than the sounds that I'm actually taking video of such as my kids.
Apple sent me to AT&T and AT&T said they couldn't do nothing that it was apple who had to take care of it. I then called apple back and they said they can send me a refurbished phone but I can't get a new one. They said that they can't send me a new one because I preordered at the at&t store so at&t is the one who bought it from them not me. They offered me a free accessory and told me to go back to the AT&T store and they would speak to them directly. I've never had this issue with apple before with any of my phones. I have a question for everyone. When you take a video in a silent room is there noise on the video? I haven't been able to try any other ones to see if they are all like this or not. If so then I will just keep mine. I can also hear it on recordings unless what I'm recording is really loud.If I'm understanding you correctly, what they told you is incorrect. I purchased my 7 Plus through Verizon and just got authorized for a replacement via Apple. They can replace your phone. It won't be in the Apple retail packaging and it will be the new device only (no accessories, Apple Stickers, etc.)
Apple sent me to AT&T and AT&T said they couldn't do nothing that it was apple who had to take care of it. I then called apple back and they said they can send me a refurbished phone but I can't get a new one. They said that they can't send me a new one because I preordered at the at&t store so at&t is the one who bought it from them not me. They offered me a free accessory and told me to go back to the AT&T store and they would speak to them directly. I've never had this issue with apple before with any of my phones. I have a question for everyone. When you take a video in a silent room is there noise on the video? I haven't been able to try any other ones to see if they are all like this or not. If so then I will just keep mine. I can also hear it on recordings unless what I'm recording is really loud.
Thank you for the reply! What you described is exactly what is happening to mine. I don't have the problem with the whining noise. They told me if I get a replacement from apple it will be a refurbished phone so I'm considering just waiting. I would hate to get one with a problem worse than what I have now.my first time chiming in on this lengthy thread that has been both helpful and discouraging...
from what i other, your issue is the same one that i have experienced, and in my humblest opinion, you won't find a replacement phone improves your situation. i too noticed a problem last week when i was making a video of my daughter at the playground which was relatively quiet and non windy. there was district white noise in the background that was almost comparable to the sound of her and the friend who was playing with her.
since that incident, i cam across this thread and made multiple tests in quiet rooms, noisy environments, etc. some situations, the white noise isn't noticeable (louder environments and louder things being recorded).
i have tested 5 iPhones 7 units and all have comparable white noise in the background that sounds like you suggest: running water/wind. they are noisier than my wife's SE, my iPad air 2, and anecdotally, old videos recorded on my iPhone 6 (i sold it, so couldn't make a head to head comparison). the variety of iPhones i have tested have been both AT&T and Verizon variants, so this is not modem related.
i also, for my situation, have not seen an improvement of the white noise issue with the phone in airplane mode nor do i notice a change in behavior when under bigger load (4k vs 1080p 30 or 60 fps video).
There was some variation in slight tone and volume for the five units i tried (3 demo units at apple, my first iPhone 7, and a second one which i bought (so i could compare it with my first unit head to head over a couple days and situations). in the end, i kept the 2nd iPhone and returned the first one an hour ago. but i could have really flipped a coin. they were comparable in white noise level. some recording were better on one phone, and some on the other.
IMHO, i think we are sort of stuck with this unless a software fix is possible for mic sensitivity setting. in my less than rigorous tests, however, it just seems that the signal to noise level on the 7 is lower than previous iOS devices.
one additional test i ran on the two units i purchased was to record video using the Mic of my Sennheiser ($30 earbuds with controller) earphones/mic. this video had a lower noise floor.
finally, i do acknowledge understand that some people have a noticeable sound that is audible and has a high frequency character. this is one that i think a phone swap could realistically fix. if someone has a noise that is dependent on CPU load or hearable from across the room, that warrants an immediate attempt to get a new unit, IMHO.
for my two iPhone 7's, i can faintly hear something with the volume turned way up on a headphone amplified signal on my Mac Pro (expensive sennheiser cans and nuforce amp), but for my circumstances, this is a nonissue. i can barely hear something when i press my ear against the apple on the back in a quiet room for both the phone 7's that i had the chance to play extensively with.
so, as noted earlier in this thread, there are two issues:
- white noise when recording videos
- whining, high pitched screeching that is load dependent, and leaks into videos and is audible on its own and during phone calls.
it's the latter issue that seems to be a hardware issue that has shown some likelihood of being fixed by simply exchanging for a different unit.
Apple sent me to AT&T and AT&T said they couldn't do nothing that it was apple who had to take care of it. I then called apple back and they said they can send me a refurbished phone but I can't get a new one. They said that they can't send me a new one because I preordered at the at&t store so at&t is the one who bought it from them not me. They offered me a free accessory and told me to go back to the AT&T store and they would speak to them directly. I've never had this issue with apple before with any of my phones. I have a question for everyone. When you take a video in a silent room is there noise on the video? I haven't been able to try any other ones to see if they are all like this or not. If so then I will just keep mine. I can also hear it on recordings unless what I'm recording is really loud.
Apple sent me to AT&T and AT&T said they couldn't do nothing that it was apple who had to take care of it. I then called apple back and they said they can send me a refurbished phone but I can't get a new one. They said that they can't send me a new one because I preordered at the at&t store so at&t is the one who bought it from them not me. They offered me a free accessory and told me to go back to the AT&T store and they would speak to them directly. I've never had this issue with apple before with any of my phones. I have a question for everyone. When you take a video in a silent room is there noise on the video? I haven't been able to try any other ones to see if they are all like this or not. If so then I will just keep mine. I can also hear it on recordings unless what I'm recording is really loud.
Thank you for the reply! What you described is exactly what is happening to mine. I don't have the problem with the whining noise. They told me if I get a replacement from apple it will be a refurbished phone so I'm considering just waiting. I would hate to get one with a problem worse than what I have now.
I just spoke to apple about my issue. They told me I would have to go through AT&T and swap it out since it's during the 14 day period. If I do that then I'm without a phone until mid November. The issue I'm having is sounds on my videos. It's hard to describe but it almost sounds like the ocean or wind. I do have the hissing sound but it's only if I put my ear up to the back of the phone. Do you all have the sound I'm trying to describe on your videos? It is louder than the sounds that I'm actually taking video of such as my kids.
my first time chiming in on this lengthy thread that has been both helpful and discouraging...
from what i understand, your issue is the same one that i have experienced, and in my humblest opinion, you won't find a replacement phone improves your situation. i too noticed a problem last week when i was making a video of my daughter at the playground which was relatively quiet and non windy. there was district white noise in the background that was almost comparable to the sound of her and the friend who was playing with her.
since that incident, i came across this thread and made multiple tests in quiet rooms, noisy environments, etc. in some some situations, the white noise isn't noticeable (louder environments and louder things being recorded).
i have tested 5 iPhones 7 units and all have comparable white noise in the background that sounds like you suggest: running water/wind. they are noisier than my wife's SE, my iPad air 2, and anecdotally, old videos recorded on my iPhone 6 (i sold it, so couldn't make a head to head comparison). the variety of iPhones i have tested have been both AT&T and Verizon variants, so this is not modem related.
i also, for my situation, have not seen an improvement of the white noise issue with the phone in airplane mode nor do i notice a change in behavior when under bigger load (4k vs 1080p 30 or 60 fps video).
There was some variation in slight tone and volume for the five units i tried (3 demo units at apple, my first iPhone 7, and a second one which i bought (so i could compare it with my first unit head to head over a couple days and situations). in the end, i kept the 2nd iPhone and returned the first one an hour ago. but i could have really flipped a coin. they were comparable in white noise level. some recordings were better on one phone, and some on the other.
IMHO, i think we are sort of stuck with this unless a software fix is possible for mic sensitivity setting. in my less than rigorous tests, however, it just seems that the signal to noise level on the 7 is lower than previous iOS devices.
one additional test i ran on the two units i purchased was to record video using the Mic of my Sennheiser ($30 earbuds with controller) earphones/mic. this video had a lower noise floor.
finally, i do acknowledge understand that some people have a noticeable sound that is audible and has a high frequency character. this is one that i think a phone swap could realistically fix. if someone has a noise that is dependent on CPU load or hearable from across the room, that warrants an immediate attempt to get a new unit, IMHO.
for my two iPhone 7's, i can faintly hear something with the volume turned way up on a headphone amplified signal on my Mac Pro (expensive sennheiser cans and nuforce amp), but for my circumstances, this is a nonissue. i can barely hear something when i press my ear against the apple on the back in a quiet room for both the phone 7's that i had the chance to play extensively with.
so, as noted earlier in this thread, there are two issues:
- white noise when recording videos
- whining, high pitched screeching that is load dependent, and leaks into videos and is audible on its own and during phone calls.
it's the latter issue that seems to be a hardware issue that has shown some likelihood of being fixed by simply exchanging for a different unit.
Sorry but if that horrible hissing sound is made by OIS then i do not want OIS!!
my first time chiming in on this lengthy thread that has been both helpful and discouraging...
from what i understand, your issue is the same one that i have experienced, and in my humblest opinion, you won't find a replacement phone improves your situation. i too noticed a problem last week when i was making a video of my daughter at the playground which was relatively quiet and non windy. there was district white noise in the background that was almost comparable to the sound of her and the friend who was playing with her.
since that incident, i came across this thread and made multiple tests in quiet rooms, noisy environments, etc. in some some situations, the white noise isn't noticeable (louder environments and louder things being recorded).
i have tested 5 iPhones 7 units and all have comparable white noise in the background that sounds like you suggest: running water/wind. they are noisier than my wife's SE, my iPad air 2, and anecdotally, old videos recorded on my iPhone 6 (i sold it, so couldn't make a head to head comparison). the variety of iPhones i have tested have been both AT&T and Verizon variants, so this is not modem related.
i also, for my situation, have not seen an improvement of the white noise issue with the phone in airplane mode nor do i notice a change in behavior when under bigger load (4k vs 1080p 30 or 60 fps video).
There was some variation in slight tone and volume for the five units i tried (3 demo units at apple, my first iPhone 7, and a second one which i bought (so i could compare it with my first unit head to head over a couple days and situations). in the end, i kept the 2nd iPhone and returned the first one an hour ago. but i could have really flipped a coin. they were comparable in white noise level. some recordings were better on one phone, and some on the other.
IMHO, i think we are sort of stuck with this unless a software fix is possible for mic sensitivity setting. in my less than rigorous tests, however, it just seems that the signal to noise level on the 7 is lower than previous iOS devices.
one additional test i ran on the two units i purchased was to record video using the Mic of my Sennheiser ($30 earbuds with controller) earphones/mic. this video had a lower noise floor.
finally, i do acknowledge understand that some people have a noticeable sound that is audible and has a high frequency character. this is one that i think a phone swap could realistically fix. if someone has a noise that is dependent on CPU load or hearable from across the room, that warrants an immediate attempt to get a new unit, IMHO.
for my two iPhone 7's, i can faintly hear something with the volume turned way up on a headphone amplified signal on my Mac Pro (expensive sennheiser cans and nuforce amp), but for my circumstances, this is a nonissue. i can barely hear something when i press my ear against the apple on the back in a quiet room for both the phone 7's that i had the chance to play extensively with.
so, as noted earlier in this thread, there are two issues:
- white noise when recording videos
- whining, high pitched screeching that is load dependent, and leaks into videos and is audible on its own and during phone calls.
it's the latter issue that seems to be a hardware issue that has shown some likelihood of being fixed by simply exchanging for a different unit.
So Apple support called me back yesterday. Told me that their Senior Engineering team are aware of the issue, are currently investigating it and they will be back in touch once they have an update but can't say how soon that will be.
For clarity, my concern is the overly loud processor whine, hiss, crackle or whatever you want to call it. The background noise on video recording does not cause me concern as I don't really use the video function much and it seems to be at an acceptable level for me.
I have ordered another one for delivery on Thursday and will be returning my current unit. If the new one is no better then I will return that and play the waiting game.
I've just heard back from the Apple after they advised me last week that the engineering team is looking at it. Result from the engineering team is that it is a software issue, not hardware and they are asking me to do a bunch of tests....
Software? Thats B.S if you ask me!
They wont be able to make this issues go away with an update!
Software? Thats B.S if you ask me!
Okay, so where does that leave the large number of us who definitely don't have audible whine from the phone itself but do have whine in recorded videos? And I mean whine, not white noise.
And what do you mean by the Mac Pro playback thing? What are you actually listening to? I don't get it.