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BaldiMac

macrumors G3
Jan 24, 2008
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I get it, Apple doesn't need too but why won't they match android's latest flagship like the Samsung Galaxy S6 spec-by-spec?

Cost? Apple being Apple, sort of like BlackBerry that decides WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR USERS.

I'm not complaining about any of my iToys but just curious.

What specs are you talking about? Did you expect some sort of quantum entanglement or time travel whereby Apple goes back 7 months to match the whatever specs you are talking about in the just released S6?
 

HiDEF

macrumors 68000
Jun 23, 2010
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Miami, FL
I get your point of view and it is not mine. Btw "Apple faithful" is just another derogatory way of saying "Isheep" etc, which should have no place in this conversation.

to each their own in how they want to perceive my statement but now your agenda is clear--you have it out for me and anything I say from here-on-out will be under a microscope when it comes iOS and Android; there's nothing I can do about that.

But I appreciate the attention.
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
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Not a knock but why do you always buy a iPhone anyways when they come out if you feel that way? You know you will get a 6s even if it doesnt have more RAM, lol. Just sayin.

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The GS6 i think is too thin. I like the feel better with my Spigen case on it and would have prefered a bigger battery to it being so thin.

I'm at the point where I get every Galaxy flagship and iPhone. After coming from the S5 though, the iPhone 6 was startling in how underspec'ed it was.

In the past, the iPhone UX was so strong that it could trump specs, but the S5 was such a solid phone with a solid UX, that the flaws of the iPhone 6 were just glaring and I returned it.

Now double that disparity with the Note 4.

Now triple it with the S6.

It's not 2013 anymore. Apple needs more to get my attention.

Also, Spigen was what I went with as well: http://www.spigen.com/brands/samsung/galaxy/galaxy-s6/galaxy-s6-case-liquid-crystal.html
 

Kendo

macrumors 68020
Apr 4, 2011
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I get it, Apple doesn't need too but why won't they match android's latest flagship like the Samsung Galaxy S6 spec-by-spec?

Cost? Apple being Apple, sort of like BlackBerry that decides WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR USERS.

I'm not complaining about any of my iToys but just curious.

I don't know what the 6S will get but I'm sure it'll be just a slight speed bump, I doubt they'll go Quad HD. Again, not really necessary but I just want them too.

Not sure what you mean. The iPhone 6 blows away every Android phone out there even with its "lesser specs."

http://bgr.com/2015/04/22/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-performance-tests-gaming/
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
100% what I've been saying. Apple makes good products, but what gets them where they are is the branding (and all the things associated with that, ie. marketing, loyalty, previous innovations, etc).
I'm guessing that the fact that their products work quite well for most people has a bit to do with it as well. Just a tiny bit. /s
 

Woochifer

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Apr 22, 2007
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Perfect example of short attention spans and forgetting about release schedules.

I assume that when the new iPhone comes out in September, you'll be asking the same question about why Samsung refuses to do a spec bump on the S6?

Apple's not going to do a spec bump when their current iPhone models came out only 7 months ago. In fact, they only update most of the internal hardware once every two years.

Why? Because most of the spec bumps that could be done on an annual or bi-annual basis have minimal impact on the user experience. Apple doesn't care much about spec sheets. In fact, constant updates to the hardware can introduce all sorts of new bugs by requiring iOS and apps to account for a larger range of chipsets and drivers.

You already see the growing pains with the iPhone 6/6 Plus and iOS 8. By updating the hardware at midcycle, do you want to introduce a whole new set of potential bugs right when the iPhone 6/6 Plus and iOS 8 have become reasonably stable?
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
to each their own in how they want to perceive my statement but now your agenda is clear--you have it out for me and anything I say from here-on-out will be under a microscope when it comes iOS and Android; there's nothing I can do about that.

But I appreciate the attention.

Okay, if you believe I have an agenda, doesn't "Apple faithful" signify your agenda?

In answer to the title thread; it may not matter whether Apple closes the gap.
 

mclld

macrumors 68030
Nov 6, 2012
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2,127
It doesnt matter, people will still buy and I would assume only a tiny minority really care. It isnt like it is a weak performer anyway
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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Don't forget the battery life....Cupertino obsession with thinness is not cool anymore.

Yet the Samsung Galaxy S6 is .1 mm thinner thinner than the iPhone 6. Yup, nobody cares about device thickness anymore. ;)

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The GS6 i think is too thin. I like the feel better with my Spigen case on it and would have prefered a bigger battery to it being so thin.

Agreed for both the S6 and iP6. At a certain point, thin is too thin and actually less comfortable to hold. Take back a mm or 2 of thin and add some more battery please.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
Gaming doesn't test RAM. It tests CPU and mostly GPU.

RAM is used for multitasking where the iPhone is weak.
On the other hand it seems to be the opposite of that when it comes to CPU and GPU, which are quite important as well.
 

Dmunjal

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2010
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1,543
On the other hand it seems to be the opposite of that when it comes to CPU and GPU, which are quite important as well.
I think Apple excels at their GPU which one reason why they are so fluid. World class GPU with low resolution screens will perform very well.

As for CPU, it's a wash. Single core performance for Apple will be better because it has only two cores.
 

Alphazoid

macrumors 65816
Dec 5, 2014
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I must have got a bad 6+ then because mine lags more than my old iPhone 5, has an inferior touchscreen and at least half as much RAM as it needs. If you enjoy a device which reloads apps and browser tabs way more readily than an iPhone from two generations prior, then I guess you would love the 6+.
If they had given this thing 2GB of RAM and a much more refined o/s then I would have been perfectly happy with it.
Sometimes specs really do matter and sometimes Apple really do drop the ball.

Lagging disappeared for me in iOS 8.2. I vastly prefer my 6+ to my 5/5S. Forget pixels, it produces better colours and is more responsive maybe even too responsive at times.

1GB is a problem but its by no means a deal breaker...i still get stuff done. But 2GB is coming this year anyway so moot point.

CPU/GPU/Camera is still one of the best or joint best in class.
 

Fernandez21

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2010
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OK, the S6 just came out, so of course its going to be higher speced. Its also the first phone to to utilize new technology, the CPU, flash memory, and ram are all built to new standards and are the first of their kind. So I don't know how some are expecting a phone that came out 8 months ago to also have that hardware. I'm sure the 6S at the end of the year will have an even more powerful processor along with faster ram and flash storage, as will the Note 5, Moto X, and Nexus.

There are only really 2 areas that apple is behind specs wise, screen resolution and amount of ram. But there is more to a screen than just resolution, overall the iPhone still has a great screen, and ram can be partially solved with software, and if you look at test done with other phones that came out around the same time, the iPhone still outperforms most with app switching.

And, like jamzer, I also have a Note 4, 6 plus, and S6. Though I would put the iPhone in second after the S6 in performance, but ahead of the Note 4.

I can't wait till the second half of this year, as it truely seems we're finally seeing a big jump in performance if the S6 is any indication. Can you imagine how insanely fast an iPhone or Nexus will be with the next gen SOC, RAM, and flash storage found in the S6? Plus an even more powerful Note with the awesome design of the S6?
 

nviz22

Cancelled
Jun 24, 2013
5,277
3,071
Well, this board is not so Apple centric as the main news forum. Apple has no need to up the ante with their specs. The 6+ is a great phone that I underestimated last November. The only things preventing me from using one right now are price and the S6 being really good. Sure, 14 nm and DDR4 is nice, but it's not necessary. Apple keeps things simple, not complicated. Why turn over supply lines to make a device with 3-4 GB of RAM, 2.5 GHz A# processor, and a QHD screen? We know the 7 will be the hardware giant for Apple. The S devices are for software. I think my 5C will get most of iOS 9, same with my iPad Mini 2. When I use my iPad, I don't feel the 64 bit processor. Same with the S6 Edge. It just is a fast snappy experience enough to get the job done and then some. Does it mean one is antiquated and the other isn't? Nope, it's just different methods. The new MacBook Air is underpowered in terms of clock speed, but probably performs just as well. Specs aren't everything. If I wanted the fastest clock speed, you think I would buy an Octacore Exynos powered phone? Of course not. I would've waited for the G4 or some other phones with the fastest speed.
 

Luis G.

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Mar 25, 2015
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It's the custom side of it that makes the difference. Apple uses their own designs and they must do it for a reason.

The benchmarks are not biased either. At any rate Apple seems to tune its hardware to do more with less, it's not a matter of how much hardware does Apple need, they seem to do just fine.

If hardware alone sold phones, people would not buy iPhones.

If you say so.
Heard it all before. I've seen hurricane's architecture it's nothing new.

If you want to be amazed look at Tegra's K1. That is truly custom not some pieced together architecture.
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G5
Mar 20, 2003
12,066
6,107
Bay Area
It's almost as if Apple has manipulated their consumers to believing the latest isn't the best.

I think what they have "manipulated" consumers into believing is that the latest is not *necessarily* the best. Sure, all else being equal, higher specs are better than lower specs... But when is all else really equal?

To go to the tired old car analogy, does a higher HP engine translate to a better 0-60 time? Sure... If all else is equal. But not if one is turbocharged and the other isn't, or if one is in a coupe and the other in a semi-truck.

The question should always be whether the total package gives the performance you need/want, not whether some other manufacturer has put together something that looks good on the spec sheet.
 

Kariya

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2010
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10
Exactly...... no need to add current tech in iphones. They can stay 2 years behind the curve because they have such a great adoring fan base. If Apple released a slightly changed IP5 and called it the IP6s...it would still sell millions. Some will buy it just because of the logo then say they don't need upgraded specs.

They'd buy it because people's contracts were up and they wanted to remain on the iOS platform.

Indeed, Apple doesn't sell based on the tech specs alone. They sell because people worship their stuff like idols. :):apple::eek:

An incredibly myopic viewpoint to take.

It's almost as if Apple has manipulated their consumers to believing the latest isn't the best.

It's really a trend I wish Apple would snap out of.

'Latest' and 'best' differ from consumer to consumer. At the end of the day people buy what works for them and their priorities. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean its wrong.

The whole specs thing is laughably esoteric and exaggerated. I've used all the platforms and i REALLY don't see what Android enthusiasts are so uppity about.

One of the best Android smartphones experiences i've had came from the Moto G and Oneplus both hardly cutting edge but put a smile on my face than any other Android OEM.

Specs are important don't get me wrong but they do not automatically equate to an enjoyable experience.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I must have got a bad 6+ then because mine lags more than my old iPhone 5, has an inferior touchscreen and at least half as much RAM as it needs. If you enjoy a device which reloads apps and browser tabs way more readily than an iPhone from two generations prior, then I guess you would love the 6+.
If they had given this thing 2GB of RAM and a much more refined o/s then I would have been perfectly happy with it.
Sometimes specs really do matter and sometimes Apple really do drop the ball.

Plenty of people have already told you this.....your experience falls far from the norm. But you continue to trumpet it as if there is something wrong with the entire 6 series.....

The S6 has a beautiful display. The fingerprint sensor works almost as well as Touch ID which is great. The camera is fantastic as well. Other than that, nothing about the S6 is better in my mind. iOS is preferable to me over Android. At the end of the day, specs don't matter as long as they get the job done - by that I mean efficiently run the OS and all apps available with as little lag as possible.

Both the S6 and iP6 achieve this. More specs mean nothing. It's all about the experience - which is better for me on iOS.

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They'd buy it because people's contracts were up and they wanted to remain on the iOS platform.

Its as if people don't believe iOS is a viable alternative a lot of people actually choose and prefer. No we all blindly worship Apple and will buy their products because we're brainwashed.....

Bleh.
 
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gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
5,717
1,260
East Central Florida
The only weak spec on iPhone IMO is ram. Processor GPU camera screen are all great. Wish it had some other hardware features like ir blaster and SD card but those are pipe dreams. Would like ois on the smaller model to, not a fan of the lack of feature parity between the regular and the plus because I really don't want a phablet
 
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