Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?

[epicrayban]

Oh I know. I wouldn't necessarily either.

Yes you would. I've read your posts before. You once said customization is too confusing and troublesome to deal with. A "timewaster."

 

[jamezr]

Yes you would. I've read your posts before. You once said customization is too confusing and troublesome to deal with. A "timewaster."

LOL Busted. Unless Apple is doing the customization....then his response is always. They do the implementation better. Even though he discounted it in earlier postings.

 

[jrswizzle]

Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?

Yes you would. I've read your posts before. You once said customization is too confusing and troublesome to deal with. A "timewaster."

Find that post and quote me. I don't think that....if I said it, I've since changed my mind. "Too confusing and troublesome" is subjective. For some it is (hence Samsung's Easy Mode in touch wiz), for some it isn't.

Options for the sake of options don't really do anything for me. I'd rather have options that make fore better implementations rather than just another way to do something I already do easily my normal way.

I don't see how sideways moves make anything better. I also respect focus on improvement not just adding options.

But as I've said many times here, I'm not against options as a rule. Especially if they don't come with any side effect.

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LOL Busted. Unless Apple is doing the customization....then his response is always. They do the implementation better. Even though he discounted it in earlier postings.

Wrong, but you wouldn't have any idea since you blocked me long ago. Wouldn't have any clue what I've stated since.

 

[Technarchy]

If we had to make a tech spec prediction about Apple's answer to the S6 in the fall:

1. Slightly improved camera
2. 14nm SOC
3. More powerful GPU
4. Slightly larger battery
5. 2 GB (GOD WILLING. 1GB IS PATHETIC)

I'm not sure how much of an answer this is to the S6. Hopefully iOS9 will offer more flexibility and have less Gremlins compared to when iOS8 dropped.

 

[epicrayban]

Find that post and quote me. I don't think that....

Can't remember? Let me help you:

At some point tweaking and customizing go from a way to personalize your device to an annoying time waster because nothing works quite the way you'd like.

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LOL Busted. Unless Apple is doing the customization....then his response is always. They do the implementation better. Even though he discounted it in earlier postings.

I know you have him blocked, but I could show you many more Jrswizzle contradictions.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

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If we had to make a tech spec prediction about Apple's answer to the S6 in the fall:

1. Slightly improved camera
2. 14nm SOC
3. More powerful GPU
4. Slightly larger battery
5. 2 GB (GOD WILLING. 1GB IS PATHETIC)

I'm not sure how much of an answer this is to the S6. Hopefully iOS9 will offer more flexibility and have less Gremlins compared to when iOS8 dropped.

I read somewhere that iOS 9 will focus a lot on stability.

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Options for the sake of options don't really do anything for me. I'd rather have options that make fore better implementations rather than just another way to do something I already do easily my normal way.

I don't see how sideways moves make anything better. I also respect focus on improvement not just adding options.

But as I've said many times here, I'm not against options as a rule. Especially if they don't come with any side effect.

Yawn. Same ol' Jrswizzle: Apple's default ways are great and they work very well for me, so I don't know how to appreciate why customization and options might be better for someone else (even though I continue to espouse the notion and importance of individualism!). In fact, I'll go out of my way to argue against customization because it can become a time waster. Oh wait, until...

After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch...........

...... It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

To answer the question I suppose it depends whether they need to? The spec buffs have plenty of choice on other platforms and buying an iPhone has never been about specs for me. Having nice features is a bonus but the user interface and reliability of the experience is what counts first and foremost. I do like the S6 though but that might be because it reminds me of an iPhone? Whatever though, I doubt Apple will focus purely on specs any time soon.

 

[mrex]

I know iOS is still a bit better optimized (and i don't even think the iP6 is under-specced besides the obvious lack of RAM).

This is something you hear quite often. "ios is better optimized" than...? Android? what if you add as much as functionalities to ios than Android has, will it be still "better optimized"? will ios still work well if you add a real multitasking and other features to it like android has? at the same time people say that android needs more ram because it isnt optimized but on the other hand android is running much more features at the same time than ios does.

Compairing ios to android is compairing a car to a spaceship. The other has wheels to move while the other has more features to move and more complex ways to handle the vehicle...

 

[journeyy]

If we had to make a tech spec prediction about Apple's answer to the S6 in the fall:

1. Slightly improved camera
2. 14nm SOC
3. More powerful GPU
4. Slightly larger battery
5. 2 GB (GOD WILLING. 1GB IS PATHETIC)

I'm not sure how much of an answer this is to the S6. Hopefully iOS9 will offer more flexibility and have less Gremlins compared to when iOS8 dropped.

I honestly think they will also do a slight re-design and maybe call it iPhone 7. I expect it to be more jewellry-like again, matching the watch.

 

[I7guy]

Can't remember? Let me help you:



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I know you have him blocked, but I could show you many more Jrswizzle contradictions.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

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I read somewhere that iOS 9 will focus a lot on stability.

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Yawn. Same ol' Jrswizzle: Apple's default ways are great and they work very well for me, so I don't know how to appreciate why customization and options might be better for someone else (even though I continue to espouse the notion and importance of individualism!). In fact, I'll go out of my way to argue against customization because it can become a time waster. Oh wait, until...

And if you read the posts, the snippets don't support what you are attempting to do. E.g. That the Apple watch is more customizable may be a fact and not his personal preference.

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To answer the question I suppose it depends whether they need to? The spec buffs have plenty of choice on other platforms and buying an iPhone has never been about specs for me. Having nice features is a bonus but the user interface and reliability of the experience is what counts first and foremost. I do like the S6 though but that might be because it reminds me of an iPhone? Whatever though, I doubt Apple will focus purely on specs any time soon.

If the s6 had 20 cores, it wouldn't be the better phone for me. I don't expect Apple to play catch up tit-for-tat with specs, that's not the way they operate, but they'll come up with something unique that the phones will again fly off the shelves.

 

[Technarchy]

I honestly think they will also do a slight re-design and maybe call it iPhone 7. I expect it to be more jewellry-like again, matching the watch.

While not impossible, it is phenomenally unlikely. The economics of such a change would dramatically hurt margins, and we know Apple cares about margins above all else.

 

[C DM]

This is something you hear quite often. "ios is better optimized" than...? Android? what if you add as much as functionalities to ios than Android has, will it be still "better optimized"? will ios still work well if you add a real multitasking and other features to it like android has? at the same time people say that android needs more ram because it isnt optimized but on the other hand android is running much more features at the same time than ios does.

Compairing ios to android is compairing a car to a spaceship. The other has wheels to move while the other has more features to move and more complex ways to handle the vehicle...

Remember the same company designs and makes the hardware along with the OS which plays a big role. So if you want to use some weird vehicle analogy, even if one is a car and the other is a spaceship in one case it's a fully designed car with everything designed to work together seamlessly and in another case it's a spaceship with a bunch of different parts that were made to fit together but don't necessarily do that well.

 

[I7guy]

While not impossible, it is phenomenally unlikely. The economics of such a change would dramatically hurt margins, and we know Apple cares about margins above all else.

I would say that's a truism in corporate America, nay corporations world wide. No margin, no profit, no money, no company.

 

[jamezr]

Remember the same company designs and makes the hardware along with the OS which plays a big role. So if you want to use some weird vehicle analogy, even if one is a car and the other is a spaceship in one case it's a fully designed car with everything designed to work together seamlessly and in another case it's a spaceship with a bunch of different parts that were made to fit together but don't necessarily do that well.

That cannot be overstated. Apple does a great job of blending hardware and software together for great products. They are in the unique position to design software to work perfectly with their hardware.

 

[tbayrgs]

That cannot be overstated. Apple does a great job of blending hardware and software together for great products. They are in the unique position to design software to work perfectly with their hardware.

This exactly why I had such high hopes for Samsung. More than any other company, they design and manufacture most of the hardware in their device and now with their use of the Exynos exclusively, I'm hoping they can really fine tune the software/hardware interface. Id say the jury's out on whether this is the case with the S6 but here's hoping they can really make some headway going forward.

 

[jamezr]

This exactly why I had such high hopes for Samsung. More than any other company, they design and manufacture most of the hardware in their device and now with their use of the Exynos exclusively, I'm hoping they can really fine tune the software/hardware interface. Id say the jury's out on whether this is the case with the S6 but here's hoping they can really make some headway going forward.

i am with you on that for them. But if they truly want to capture the successful blend that Apple does they need to go with their own OS. Whether that is Tizen or something else i don't know. But they don't have control of the OS as much as Apple does. Or maybe partner with another company like Cyanogen? Not sure.. but releasing a product like the S6 and S6e with a smooth interface like Cyanogen is exciting. Getting rid of touchwiz should be a top goal for Samsung. Just the name alone has a negative connotation in the public's mind.

 

[epicrayban]

i am with you on that for them. But if they truly want to capture the successful blend that Apple does they need to go with their own OS. Whether that is Tizen or something else i don't know. But they don't have control of the OS as much as Apple does. Or maybe partner with another company like Cyanogen? Not sure.. but releasing a product like the S6 and S6e with a smooth interface like Cyanogen is exciting. Getting rid of touchwiz should be a top goal for Samsung. Just the name alone has a negative connotation in the public's mind.

Really? It's public opinion that touch wiz is bad? It's that wide spread? Asking genuinely. I thought it was more among the knowledgeable that touch wiz is a heavy skin. Most people I talk to don't even know what a skin or launcher is...

 

[jamezr]

Really? It's public opinion that touch wiz is bad? It's that wide spread? Asking genuinely. I thought it was more among the knowledgeable that touch wiz is a heavy skin. Most people I talk to don't even know what a skin or launcher is...

Good point. Until they read a review on the phone. They all mention TW in some or other. None of them in a positive light. Unless "not that bad" or "better than before" counts as positive.

 

[epicrayban]

And if you read the posts, the snippets don't support what you are attempting to do. E.g. That the Apple watch is more customizable may be a fact and not his personal preference.

This has nothing to do with whether the apple watch is more customizable or not. If it is great. I've always been championing customizability. Custumization helps individualism and personal preferences (something you yourself espouse, too). Great. Good for the apple watch.

What I'm pointing out about jrssizzle is that he didn't always appreciate customizability. And in fact spoke against it saying silly things like having things customizable can lead to frustration and being unable to decide/find the right thing to customize it with. A time waster (his own words verbatim). But now that the apple watch is more customizable, ah, now he can say this is a good thing and use it in the context of a post to say the apple watch is better.

If you don't see the hypocrisy then I think you're no better. Which wouldn't be surprising given that it took you forever to finally admit that more email attachment features is better than less when discussing "personal" experiences (again, also your own words).

He even went as far as saying google doesn't bother making their core apps any good because they know third party solutions exists. That's how against customization he was. It led to that absurd comment. Read the thread. It's a fun one.

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Good point. Until they read a review on the phone. They all mention TW in some or other. None of them in a positive light. Unless "not that bad" or "better than before" counts as positive.

True. I can see more people getting with the lingo and whatnot this day and age.

 

[Dmunjal]

i am with you on that for them. But if they truly want to capture the successful blend that Apple does they need to go with their own OS. Whether that is Tizen or something else i don't know. But they don't have control of the OS as much as Apple does. Or maybe partner with another company like Cyanogen? Not sure.. but releasing a product like the S6 and S6e with a smooth interface like Cyanogen is exciting. Getting rid of touchwiz should be a top goal for Samsung. Just the name alone has a negative connotation in the public's mind.

I don't think the problem is that Android is not optimized for the hardware. At some point, HW will be fast enough that even bad software will run fine. Windows used this strategy against Mac OS even though they didn't make the chips (Intel) or sell the final product (HP and Dell).

The trick is to have the OS developer go straight to the HW manufacturer and mandate OS design and features like Microsoft did. Unfortunately, with smartphones, the manufacturers remain in control and the carriers create even more complexity.

Google did have a vision with Nexus but they ultimately were unsuccessful in pulling it off.

I had this hope of buying hardware from any manufacturer without carrier involvement and getting it preloaded with the latest stock Android and updates straight from Google. I can get something close with Nexus. But that's it.

 

[I7guy]

This has nothing to do with whether the apple watch is more customizable or not. If it is great. I've always been championing customizability. Custumization helps individualism and personal preferences (something you yourself espouse, too). Great. Good for the apple watch.

What I'm pointing out about jrssizzle is that he didn't always appreciate customizability. And in fact spoke against it saying silly things like having things customizable can lead to frustration and being unable to decide/find the right thing to customize it with. A time waster (his own words verbatim). But now that the apple watch is more customizable, ah, now he can say this is a good thing and use it in the context of a post to say the apple watch is better.

If you don't see the hypocrisy then I think you're no better. Which wouldn't be surprising given that it took you forever to finally admit that more email attachment features is better than less when discussing "personal" experiences (again, also your own words).

He even went as far as saying google doesn't bother making their core apps any good because they know third party solutions exists. That's how against customization he was. It led to that absurd comment. Read the thread. It's a fun one.

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True. I can see more people getting with the lingo and whatnot this day and age.

good job on the bolded, impressive subtle or not dig. However i do appreciate some level of customization and flexibility. On my phone I don't need every little nook and cranny customized, maybe on my watch I do want some additional flexibility. Maybe on my car I still want even more. I'm okay with the iPhone until I'm not, simple as that.

As far as the email attachments that sub-thread was, for lack of a better word, silly. If enough people complain Apple will fix it. It doesn't affect me. And if the majority of Apple customers aren't affected, why would they fix it? Of course I don't know that but I say that in rebuttal to the more is always better crowd even if you done need it.

 

[gotluck]

good job on the bolded, impressive subtle or not dig. However i do appreciate some level of customization and flexibility. On my phone I don't need every little nook and cranny customized, maybe on my watch I do want some additional flexibility. Maybe on my car I still want even more. I'm okay with the iPhone until I'm not, simple as that.

As far as the email attachments that sub-thread was, for lack of a better word, silly. If enough people complain Apple will fix it. It doesn't affect me. And if the majority of Apple customers aren't affected, why would they fix it? Of course I don't know that but I say that in rebuttal to the more is always better crowd even if you done need it.

Prefer more flexibility on the less robust car and watch system? that's interesting. I'm surprised you don't prefer a more flexible iPad to a restricted PC system.

Ugh the email attachment problem is not silly.. There have been huge threads on apples support forums, it is not some crazy thing to want to do attachments in replies good lord. I know this is my biggest pet peeve, but it is not a silly request.

Better whip out my full fledged computer to reply with an attachment because this is some niche sophisticated silly stuff right here!

The don't use it so I don't care and therefore neither does anyone else vibe is infuriating.. Sure , nobody cares if you aren't actually listening to the complaints..

And it seems the only third party apps that support it require you to push your mail through their app's cloud servers, yay

 

[I7guy]

Prefer more flexibility on the less robust car and watch system? that's interesting. I'm surprised you don't prefer a more flexible iPad to a restricted PC system.

Ugh the email attachment problem is not silly.. There have been huge threads on apples support forums, it is not some crazy thing to want to do attachments in replies good lord. I know this is my biggest pet peeve, but it is not a silly request.

Better whip out my full fledged computer to reply with an attachment because this is some niche sophisticated silly stuff right here!

The don't use it so I don't care and therefore neither does anyone else vibe is infuriating.. Sure , nobody cares if you aren't actually listening to the complaints..

And it seems the only third party apps that support it require you to push your mail through their app's cloud servers, yay

Let's talk about email and then customization of my car:

With 100 million+ IOS devices in use all things apple are under a microscope. IOS Mail is not Outlook 2013 by any stretch of the imagination but it works for me; for what I need it to do; when I need to do it.

I don't understand the comment about being infuriated. Surely people have different use cases and not every use case is yours and this being a discussion forum, we are allowed to state our views/opinions. And the biggest thing, don't like apple; there are alternatives. In my use case alone, this attachment limitation doesn't really present an issue. Yet, I understand why people would want it, and if I need it (which hasn't happened since I got the iphone); I can use my laptop; or remote into home if I don't have my laptop. The best place to voice your opinion is the big red apple feedback button. Do it weekly, daily, hourly or whatever. My guess is the architecture of IOS vs securing IOS is the issue.

My car, yes I want the ability to customize the operation of the various components as much as I can. My Windows PC, when I install an O/S I immediately do two things. Go into visual effects and adjust for best performance. Turn off animations/tranparency and show window contents while dragging. Everything else is stock; essentially what I do to my phone which is removing default animations.

 

[gotluck]

Let's talk about email and then customization of my car:

With 100 million+ IOS devices in use all things apple are under a microscope. IOS Mail is not Outlook 2013 by any stretch of the imagination but it works for me; for what I need it to do; when I need to do it.

I don't understand the comment about being infuriated. Surely people have different use cases and not every use case is yours and this being a discussion forum, we are allowed to state our views/opinions. And the biggest thing, don't like apple; there are alternatives. In my use case alone, this attachment limitation doesn't really present an issue. Yet, I understand why people would want it, and if I need it (which hasn't happened since I got the iphone); I can use my laptop; or remote into home if I don't have my laptop. The best place to voice your opinion is the big red apple feedback button. Do it weekly, daily, hourly or whatever. My guess is the architecture of IOS vs securing IOS is the issue.

My car, yes I want the ability to customize the operation of the various components as much as I can. My Windows PC, when I install an O/S I immediately do two things. Go into visual effects and adjust for best performance. Turn off animations/tranparency and show window contents while dragging. Everything else is stock; essentially what I do to my phone which is removing default animations.

The reason I am infuriated is Apple seems to have determined we don't need the feature. I mean we have gender specific emojis and can send voicemail via text message, but can't respond with attachments on the most popular corporate mobile os in the world.

Sure I could remote to my desktop, but nowadays I turn it off while not in use, because I don't need it remotely anymore. NAS is enough for me now.

Every single jailbreak since 4.0 has had a paid tweak adding the functionality, demand is obviously there.

Regarding customizing, I don't really care for it. I'm bone stock on android, pc, and jailbroken ipad, no themes etc.. I care about functionality though and don't like being told I can't do something that should be possible.

 

[epicrayban]

The reason I am infuriated is Apple seems to have determined we don't need the feature. I mean we have gender specific emojis and can send voicemail via text message, but can't respond with attachments on the most popular corporate mobile os in the world.

Sure I could remote to my desktop, but nowadays I turn it off while not in use, because I don't need it remotely anymore. NAS is enough for me now.

Every single jailbreak since 4.0 has had a paid tweak adding the functionality, demand is obviously there.

Regarding customizing, I don't really care for it. I'm bone stock on android, pc, and jailbroken ipad, no themes etc.. I care about functionality though and don't like being told I can't do something that should be possible.

It's so simple.

It's amazing people will subtly argue against this while at the same time constantly refer to "personal use".

Sound like apple apologists to me. There are worse names for these types.

 

[AleXXXa]

What? The 6/6+ have great specs to run iOS smoothly and fast. That's what matters.

That's what matters? Running ios fast? What about apps? What about switching between them? What about 5+ tabs in safari?

And ios is not smooth and fast anymore. ios 6 was, 7 or 8 not so much.