Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?

[Vegastouch]

And if you read the posts, the snippets don't support what you are attempting to do. E.g. That the Apple watch is more customizable may be a fact and not his personal preference.

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If the s6 had 20 cores, it wouldn't be the better phone for me. I don't expect Apple to play catch up tit-for-tat with specs, that's not the way they operate, but they'll come up with something unique that the phones will again fly off the shelves.

Of course not. Your are surely pro Apple all the way in here from the phone to a watch that just came out two days ago.

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Really? It's public opinion that touch wiz is bad? It's that wide spread? Asking genuinely. I thought it was more among the knowledgeable that touch wiz is a heavy skin. Most people I talk to don't even know what a skin or launcher is...

Lol, so true. This place is more geekville. Most people don't care. Which is too bad they don't know you can use a much better launcher.

 

[gotluck]

Of course not. Your are surely pro Apple all the way in here from the phone to a watch that just came out two days ago.

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Lol, so true. This place is more geekville. Most people don't care. Which is too bad they don't know you can use a much better launcher.

I hate to be that guy, because I'm sure I'm part of the geekville. But the problem with tw isn't the launcher . It's how much ram the system uses (no matter what launcher), which causes apps to be kicked from memory. Like iOS Safari tab refresh. It is also just generally less zippy than stock, or sense, or even Sony, just due to the stuff running in the background

Yes most people don't care or notice, but the nerds aren't wrong either

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Are email attachments linked to hardware somehow? I thought it was more a restriction or feature offered by the software maker but I could be wrong? Just trying to understand the connection to the thread title.

 

[Esoom]

Of course Apple can close the gap.

 

[gotluck]

Are email attachments linked to hardware somehow? I thought it was more a restriction or feature offered by the software maker but I could be wrong? Just trying to understand the connection to the thread title.

Not it's not we went off topic, aye

 

[Vegastouch]

I hate to be that guy, because I'm sure I'm part of the geekville. But the problem with tw isn't the launcher . It's how much ram the system uses (no matter what launcher), which causes apps to be kicked from memory. Like iOS Safari tab refresh. It is also just generally less zippy than stock, or sense, or even Sony, just due to the stuff running in the background

Yes most people don't care or notice, but the nerds aren't wrong either

I didn't say your were wrong. Just that most people don't care. In don't ever go look to see how much RAM im using.

All i know right now is one game I play that used to lag and delay sonetimes and even get force closed because I only had two GBs of RAM ,now never does that so I'm good.
I had a Nexus 5 for 1.5 years and it was OK but gotta say though I don't need the bloat apps on my GS6, I'm glad to be back with Galaxy device again and have some things I do like about TW. Like the calendar, phone dialer. I never used to use the text app of TW but it is better as well.

As far as "no matter which launcher", i just couldnt go back to having no custom homepage and just icon filled pages like on iOS.

 

[Paradoxally]

That's what matters? Running ios fast? What about apps? What about switching between them? What about 5+ tabs in safari?

And ios is not smooth and fast anymore. ios 6 was, 7 or 8 not so much.

Who the heck has 5+ tabs in Safari? It's not an iPad or a PC.

iOS 8.3 is very smooth for me.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I currently have 26 tabs open in safari on my iPhone 6 due to laziness of not closing them down when I open links from social media etc. Is iOS 8 not supposed to be able to handle more than 5 tabs or something? Perhaps I have the best iPhone in the world.

 

[gotluck]

I currently have 26 tabs open in safari on my iPhone 6 due to laziness of not closing them down when I open links from social media etc. Is iOS 8 not supposed to be able to handle more than 5 tabs or something? Perhaps I have the best iPhone in the world.

If you go back and try to view one of your earlier tabs the page will more than likely have to reload. Or one of your recent apps, whatever it may be

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yeah they reload but that's fine because they are just webpages and not forms I've filled in etc. I've seen other smartphones reload tabs though other than iPhones. The Note 4 reloads tabs and it's got plenty of RAM. I suppose it boils down to whether it bothers the individual or not.

 

[gotluck]

Yeah they reload but that's fine because they are just webpages and not forms I've filled in etc. I've seen other smartphones reload tabs though other than iPhones. The Note 4 reloads tabs and it's got plenty of RAM. I suppose it boils down to whether it bothers the individual or not.

Yea Samsung devices have similar issues because touchhwiz utilizes much ram. Safari doesn't treat a form or webpage any differently though afaik

But yes all mobile devices reload to some extent, it's just different extents

 

[I7guy]

Of course not. Your are surely pro Apple all the way in here from the phone to a watch that just came out two days ago.

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Lol, so true. This place is more geekville. Most people don't care. Which is too bad they don't know you can use a much better launcher.

Hmmm. There the those that are pro-Samsung....has this forum gotten to he point where pro-anything might be frowned upon?

It's so simple.

It's amazing people will subtly argue against this while at the same time constantly refer to "personal use".

Sound like apple apologists to me. There are worse names for these types.

There is a subtle difference between discussing your use case and providing feedback to apple AGAINST more features. Surely YOU should be able to see the difference between the former and the latter.

 

[jrswizzle]

Can't remember? Let me help you:



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I know you have him blocked, but I could show you many more Jrswizzle contradictions.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

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I read somewhere that iOS 9 will focus a lot on stability.

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Yawn. Same ol' Jrswizzle: Apple's default ways are great and they work very well for me, so I don't know how to appreciate why customization and options might be better for someone else (even though I continue to espouse the notion and importance of individualism!). In fact, I'll go out of my way to argue against customization because it can become a time waster. Oh wait, until...

Ok. I'm tired of having to explain through your ridiculous assumptions.

You've turned me off to these threads. I've been spending less time here with a new job, might as well just give it up all together.

Have fun, I'm sure you'll enjoy it more without me here anyways.

 

[I7guy]

Ok. I'm tired of having to explain through your ridiculous assumptions.

You've turned me off to these threads. I've been spending less time here with a new job, might as well just give it up all together.

Have fun, I'm sure you'll enjoy it more without me here anyways.

Words like fanboy and apologist are thrown around here to show how some think. Has someone ever called you an apologist to your face?

 

[mrex]

Can Apple close the gap to the S6's hardware?

Remember the same company designs and makes the hardware along with the OS which plays a big role.

unfortunately, so there is no real competition and you get only what apple does including lack of support for other platforms/3rd party apps etc... when it is not lack of hardware support, it is software related.

 

[C DM]

unfortunately, so there is no real competition and you get only what apple does including lack of support for other platforms/3rd party apps etc... when it is not lack of hardware support, it is software related.

You get the ecosystem that Apple has designed and envisioned. I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it's basically by designed and fully well known from the beginning.

 

[spacemnspiff]

I have yet to see the hardware improvements in the S6 that really makes it stand out compared to the iPhone 6. There might be minor improvements but nothing that really significant. Processor, battery life (in spite of having a larger battery along with 14nm processor) and RAM gains are not clear in the performance of the phone.

Specs alone don't seem to be answer.

 

[skratch77]

I have yet to see the hardware improvements in the S6 that really makes it stand out compared to the iPhone 6. There might be minor improvements but nothing that really significant. Processor, battery life (in spite of having a larger battery along with 14nm processor) and RAM gains are not clear in the performance of the phone.

Specs alone don't seem to be answer.

Just put them side by side and look at how much better the screen is.that alone is enough for me.

We have many iPhone 6s at work and all agree the screen in my gs6 is way better.

That alone is enough for me since that's what u look at when using the phone.

 

[Abazigal]

Just put them side by side and look at how much better the screen is.that alone is enough for me.

We have many iPhone 6s at work and all agree the screen in my gs6 is way better.

That alone is enough for me since that's what u look at when using the phone.

I guess the bigger question is - does Apple need to?

Samsung can only differentiate itself on hardware, since it has no ecosystem to call its own and Touchwiz is basically a skinned Android. If they want people to pay top dollar for their hardware, specs is really the only route they can go.

Conversely, there are many things that draw users to the Apple platform, from services like iMessage and iTunes, to the seamless interoperability of Apple devices, to their much-lauded customer service.

I own an iMac, iPad, macbook air, 2 Apple TVs and an iPhone. I see myself continuing to use an iPhone for many years to come. I suppose you could argue that I have effectively locked myself into the Apple ecosystem, but when that "prison" offers such a great user experience, why would I want to leave?

Not everything that can be measured necessarily matters. Just as not everything which matters to the end user can be measured.

 

[skratch77]

I guess the bigger question is - does Apple need to?

Samsung can only differentiate itself on hardware, since it has no ecosystem to call its own and Touchwiz is basically a skinned Android. If they want people to pay top dollar for their hardware, specs is really the only route they can go.

Conversely, there are many things that draw users to the Apple platform, from services like iMessage and iTunes, to the seamless interoperability of Apple devices, to their much-lauded customer service.

I own an iMac, iPad, macbook air, 2 Apple TVs and an iPhone. I see myself continuing to use an iPhone for many years to come. I suppose you could argue that I have effectively locked myself into the Apple ecosystem, but when that "prison" offers such a great user experience, why would I want to leave?

Not everything that can be measured necessarily matters. Just as not everything which matters to the end user can be measured.

samsings sells more phones then anyone so don't know what you mean by not having users being drawn to samsung when in fact they out sell ever other phone maker including apple.

Samsung is the face of android and had 2 nexus devices made.they also sell more android devices then all other android makers combined.TouchWiz is not a skinned version of android it is a complete redone framework that has added so many features stock Android does not have.

A major one being multi tasking and s pen.

 

[Technarchy]

I guess the bigger question is - does Apple need to?

Considering this thread exists, this forum exists and this discussion is even feasible, the answer is yes.

 

[Vegastouch]

Considering this thread exists, this forum exists and this discussion is even feasible, the answer is yes.

Not really. Apple can do nothing next year but add iOS 9 with a different CPU with one new feature that Android has had for years and it will sell millions and the same people will buy it and then still say something like " ill hope iOS 10 brings more next time" as they always do while still buying the newest phone.

Why? Because they are Apple enthusiasts and the average person doesnt care what is new. All they care about is they have the newest iPhone.

 

[The Game 161]

Not really. Apple can do nothing next year but add iOS 9 with a different CPU with one new feature that Android has had for years and it will sell millions and the same people will buy it and then still say something like " ill hope iOS 10 brings more next time" as they always do while still buying the newest phone.

Why? Because they are Apple enthusiasts and the average person doesnt care what is new. All they care about is they have the newest iPhone.

And thats exactly what they will do...It's cool to have the Iphone but I do get the feeling it isn't as cool as it was. Certainly when Samsung are bringing out great quailty look in their designs now.But as you say the sales will always be strong...

 

[C DM]

samsings sells more phones then anyone so don't know what you mean by not having users being drawn to samsung when in fact they out sell ever other phone maker including apple.

Samsung is the face of android and had 2 nexus devices made.they also sell more android devices then all other android makers combined.TouchWiz is not a skinned version of android it is a complete redone framework that has added so many features stock Android does not have.

A major one being multi tasking and s pen.

Although they might sell more phones, it doesn't make them the face of Android. It might be the perception of some people, but that's not what it is.

 

[Abazigal]

samsings sells more phones then anyone so don't know what you mean by not having users being drawn to samsung when in fact they out sell ever other phone maker including apple.

Samsung is the face of android and had 2 nexus devices made.they also sell more android devices then all other android makers combined.TouchWiz is not a skinned version of android it is a complete redone framework that has added so many features stock Android does not have.

A major one being multi tasking and s pen.

Samsung sells all manner of phones. Or are you somehow claiming that a cheap, near-zero margin phone is someone equivalent to an iPhone sold? Apple can easily trade profits for market share by deeply discounting its iPhones or even licensing iOS; but Apple doesn't do this because they know that it's not market share that matters.

Get this through your head - market share is the means, profit is the end. All the phones sold in the world means squat if they don't allow the company to turn a meaningful profit. And last I checked, Apple practically vacuumed up the bulk of the smartphone industry's profits for the last quarter.

Ask any phone OEM out there - would they rather have Samsung's sales volumes or Apple's profit? I know which one I would definitely prefer.