Maybe it's time everyone takes a break from this topic. It has been beaten to death ad nauseam.
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Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone.
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Yeah, I read them. Not so much reasons, as old tropes, trotted out to make you believe that the OP has used the iPhone in the past year or so, which it's obvious he hasn't. Most of his "concerns" in regards to the iPhone are based on years old issues that aren't really issues at all.
Again, it's simply his opinion of the top 10 phones, which isn't bad in and of itself.
Just like Android lags and iOS has a better "ecosystem".
I'm being curious here. I think people who say the Apple ecosystem is "better" refers to the integration of hardware and software. Aren't there more true tablet optimized apps for iPad vs android? My understanding is also that there's more development support for iOS.
I know OS X/iOS has sms/phone relay/ &continuity, so a Mac or mb /iPhone/ipad can all transfer communication. Does android natively do this as well?
Sad and boring? In relation to a phone! I don't think oft iphone as sad or boring. I have no emotion attached to it, other than that it just works.
Actually you do make some good points although these are very recent features while the ecosystem argument has been around for years.
I run Yosemite on my laptop but don't use an iPhone (I have one but last about a day on it) and keeping my iPad mini on 7.1.1 as 8 makes the performance terrible.
I do like the idea of the phone relay features etc though.
fitting.
yeah...works the way Apple wants it to not the way users want it to....stupid.
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/12/02/apple-drafts-widget-removal/
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not really though. can't ignore the fact that iOS plays across other devices and when discussing the phone that matters too. same holds true for non iOS devices.
that said, I use a little bit of everything and don't have any issue or miss anything in terms of not being all iOS. I can do just about everything a full iOS ecosystem does just with different tools. in many ways I have far more choices too. to me that's better than having to reply on just one brand or system. Windows 7/Android/iOS all working well together.
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I don't think so. You hear Apple ecosystem and that's all part of it. So there isn't an android native feature like sms/phone relay and continuity?
I don't think there is. But there are plenty of apps that will do that. Push Bullet being one.
Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone.
Ok. I know there's advantages to android but I see at least one advantage of people talking about the apple ecosystem.
Does pushbullet do phone call relay? I see it does sms.
Ok. I know there's advantages to android but I see at least one advantage of people talking about the apple ecosystem.
Does pushbullet do phone call relay? I see it does sms.
I am not sure if it does. But then I have an IP6+ and an iMac and an iPad and MBP.......i have no desire to receive or make calls from any of them except my iphone.
I know Motorola Connect does on the Moto series phones, but haven't personally looked for it on ny Nexus. I didn't use it on my Motorola, and will likely never use it on my iPhone. Or iPad. Or iMac. I can see it being a benefit for a few people though.
I have a 6, 2 iPads, mba, and a iMac. I don't use the relay features either but i see its benefit.
I still feel like there's more tablet optimized apps on iOS, thus an edge in the area. I know iOS/android on a phone is real close but it seems to me there's more developer support on iOS.
Well it does have a better ecosystem where I live, if only for the fact that there is a much wider variety of TV shows available to buy in the iTunes store vs Google play. It also has a lot more tablet optimised apps and some apps which are just not available on android and probably never will be.
I think as far as this thread goes the title is misleading because; Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone in the OP's opinion. I expected to be shocked when I first visited because seeing as the iPhone is hugely popular, I was interested to see how it didn't make a top 10 list. The list is fair enough I think, I just don't agree with much of the reasoning. It is what it is, an opinion with no factual basis, much like anybody else's.
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I think as far as this thread goes the title is misleading because; Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone in the OP's opinion. I expected to be shocked when I first visited because seeing as the iPhone is hugely popular, I was interested to see how it didn't make a top 10 list. The list is fair enough I think, I just don't agree with much of the reasoning. It is what it is, an opinion with no factual basis, much like anybody else's.
I think the OPs list is fair and it is his opinion. He is allowed to state his opinion. His criteria might be different than yours or mine. But he still allowed to post it here.
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Sure and then macrumors members are allowed to ensue in a discussion based on the forum regulations. Since the list is an opinion there really doesn't need to be any sort of backup for why the list was developed in that way.
My list is simple, I vote with my wallet; but of course not having an iphone on the list makes for lively discussion.
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That is pretty much what I said wasn't it?
The list is fair enough I think, I just don't agree with much of the reasoning. It is what it is, an opinion with no factual basis, much like anybody else's.
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I think as far as this thread goes the title is misleading because; Compared to the rest of the market, the iPhone isn't a top 10 smartphone in the OP's opinion. I expected to be shocked when I first visited because seeing as the iPhone is hugely popular, I was interested to see how it didn't make a top 10 list. The list is fair enough I think, I just don't agree with much of the reasoning. It is what it is, an opinion with no factual basis, much like anybody else's.
Of course the list is based on opinion. My rationale is such that I believe each phone on that list, you can argue is better than the iPhone. With the iPhone 6, I don't think they really brought anything meaningful to the table. It doesn't have anything innovative, and in my opinion is only playing catch up...but not quite catching up.
I'm not sure any one of the phones on the list really has anything new either. Or maybe there is a definitional difference of what one considers new and important vs new and meh.
Also can be argued the whole Google ecosystem is catching up to apple.
I appreciate it was just your opinion, in fact I wrote that twice. We all have different opinions and to me the iPhone is better than your examples, in my opinion. I feel it's a great phone and a vast improvement on its predecessor. But accept not everybody is going to share that view. If I didn't think it was the best smartphone out there, I wouldn't have bought it and I hope you feel the same about the choice you made.
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I don't think the marketing on any phone converts. If you are in the price bracket of the flagships you've really already picked your side and bought in the the the respective ecosystem. If I have hundreds of dollars in iOS/Android apps I'm not going to switch because of some new wizbang feature that the opposite platform introduced. In the end there are no "sheep" there are people vested in the ecosystem this is the big reason I hesitate to buy a bunch of stuff for my phone I've been on BB/Android x2/iPhone my next phone will probably not run the OS my current one does that means I'm not a prize for any team.
I don't think the marketing on any phone converts. If you are in the price bracket of the flagships you've really already picked your side and bought in the the the respective ecosystem. If I have hundreds of dollars in iOS/Android apps I'm not going to switch because of some new wizbang feature that the opposite platform introduced. In the end there are no "sheep" there are people vested in the ecosystem this is the big reason I hesitate to buy a bunch of stuff for my phone I've been on BB/Android x2/iPhone my next phone will probably not run the OS my current one does that means I'm not a prize for any team.
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