I wouldn't get your hopes up for a Core 2 Duo MacBook because it isn't happening. Nope, never will.
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Core 2 Duo MacBook Pros Soon?
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djkny said:Apple's vaunted VP, will issue this statement in two weeks time, and, yup, you heard it here, first:
"Our Q4 results were some of the most profitable in history. Our portables continue to outsell their competition in dramatic fashion -- in fact, the MacBook Pro, our flagship professional model, has sold nearly 1 million to date. We have exciting new developments in our pipeline for 2007. For now, our current lineup of portables, iPods, and desktops complete our Holiday slate for 2006."
Doubt it. Even if it is true he would never say it.
djkny said:Apple's vaunted VP, will issue this statement in two weeks time, and, yup, you heard it here, first:
"Our Q4 results were some of the most profitable in history. Our portables continue to outsell their competition in dramatic fashion -- in fact, the MacBook Pro, our flagship professional model, has sold nearly 1 million to date. We have exciting new developments in our pipeline for 2007. For now, our current lineup of portables, iPods, and desktops complete our Holiday slate for 2006."
Don't put something in quotes if it is not verbatim.
apple could easly sell their curent line up for 12 weeks til MWSF, but it just seems that merom is such a half step that we might just take a bigger one instead. i mean the curent configuration works very well other that the heat. for apple to have included a new battery, ventalation system, keyboard imp, new hd config and more ram, with merom just seems like a lot of work for only a 12 week "competitive" notebook. then santarosa? no way all over again from the ground up? what are we really expecting? apple will not just shove a processor in a chassie that dosent fit. if they did that Mac's would haven no heart. an apple machine is about responding to whats inside. did anyone notice that when core duo was anounced the new logo matched the MBP vents? apple is not dell, they are designers. they will always improve and innovate and not leave the heart out just to give us 10% speed boost and little batery improvements a(if any with the fan running all the time) duo 1 was rushed and ahead of schedule. the next macbook pro will be PRO. it will have heart and be as quick as it is beautiful. it will be complete
AppliedVisual said:
It *can* be a simple drop-in replacement; However, everyone seems to be forgetting that the current motherboards use the 32-bit (Napa) chipset - if apple wants to really utilize the 64-bitness of the Merom - I'm reasonably certain they're going to want to drop in the Napa-64 chipset (which, by the way, appears to provide better battery life for the overall machine, according to google - the CPU is only part of the equation)...
I can't imagine the two chipsets being much different, but I'd bet there's some logistical issues with swapping out both CPU, chipset, and who knows what else.
nevir said:
How is the Napa 64 chipset different from the Crestline chipset then?
OdduWon said:apple could easly sell their curent line up for 12 weeks til MWSF, but it just seems that merom is such a half step that we might just take a bigger one instead. i mean the curent configuration works very well other that the heat. for apple to have included a new battery, ventalation system, keyboard imp, new hd config and more ram, with merom just seems like a lot of work for only a 12 week "competitive" notebook. then santarosa? no way all over again from the ground up? what are we really expecting? apple will not just shove a processor in a chassie that dosent fit. if they did that Mac's would haven no heart. an apple machine is about responding to whats inside. did anyone notice that when core duo was anounced the new logo matched the MBP vents? apple is not dell, they are designers. they will always improve and innovate and not leave the heart out just to give us 10% speed boost and little batery improvements a(if any with the fan running all the time) duo 1 was rushed and ahead of schedule. the next macbook pro will be PRO. it will have heart and be as quick as it is beautiful. it will be complete
This was exactly what I thought about. If Apple really choose to wait till MWSF to update, within weeks when Vista ships and PC laptops start sporting new DX10 compatible GPUs Apple will start to look dated again. That, and the fact that 12 weeks down the road from there they need to get ready for Santa Rosa. It is quite plausible that they are making some incremental changes to the design now to minimise the transition later, because Merom (1) is looking set to be a really short lived CPU.
It makes zero sense for Apple to wait till MWSF, they are better off releasing whatever they've got now rather than fight with Vista equipped machines.
agreedgenerik said:
it would help apple to put out core2 now. i think the tv ads are bad for apple enough that they would want to change. they come on after ipod and get a mac all the time. and i always say" yeah best in the world... but not in a mac yet". mac should not have to look at pc and be envious of win boxes.
OdduWon said:agreedwe came from risc and the mighty power series, apple must stay the better built machine. i doubt they can't do it. theyhave probably already done it (we'll see when shuffle and xserve ship), just seems like a lot of work for shuch a chort life. and for vista...leapord will spank even on duo 1
Maybe Apple should engineer their stuff to be more tolerant of specifications. The Powerbook was all well and good, but when that 4 year old chasis was probably designed for 60W and a newer processor eats up the bulk of that, problems are bound to come, as we saw with the early MBPs.
I am not saying Apple should make huge laptops, but a design that is engineered too close to tolerances does give me the skivvies.
yeah when they were an inch thick they were still slimmer that any equally powerful notebook. they went to less than an inch because apple thought the chips were going to be a lot cooler than they were,which they weren't and may still not be, hence the pro core 2 delay. macbook pro should have holes like mac pro
Why do the stores still show 24 hrs estimate for MBPs when i have read more than a few artciles claiming that the stocks have run dry?
"Inventory of both Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook notebooks have run dry at the company's primary European distributor."
apple insider - http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2142
A friend who has ordered a MBP is now doubting it and is considering cancelling it.
It hasnt shipped yet and can still be cancelled until monday when it is estimated to ship.
Surely if stocks have run dry then someone, somewhere at apple would have said something to customers who are awaiting orders!
"Inventory of both Apple's MacBook Pro and MacBook notebooks have run dry at the company's primary European distributor."
apple insider - http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2142
A friend who has ordered a MBP is now doubting it and is considering cancelling it.
It hasnt shipped yet and can still be cancelled until monday when it is estimated to ship.
Surely if stocks have run dry then someone, somewhere at apple would have said something to customers who are awaiting orders!
I hope they come out with them soon, I ordered 2 MacBooks for my business and they still are not shipped.
Order Number: W23xxxxxx
Sales Ref Number: 704xxxxxxx
Order Date: Sep 28, 2006 at 09:41 AM PDT
1 MB 13/2.0 CTO WHITE
Z0D5
Oct 27, 2006
1 MB 13/2.0 CTO BLACK
Z0D5
Oct 27, 2006
According to the Estimated Order Date my MacBooks wont still till 27th witch is 1 day shy from a Month since i orderd them ...
Maybe this is the indication that they are doing the same thing they did with MacMinis when they switched them to Core Duo from Single Core
Order Number: W23xxxxxx
Sales Ref Number: 704xxxxxxx
Order Date: Sep 28, 2006 at 09:41 AM PDT
1 MB 13/2.0 CTO WHITE
Z0D5
Oct 27, 2006
1 MB 13/2.0 CTO BLACK
Z0D5
Oct 27, 2006
According to the Estimated Order Date my MacBooks wont still till 27th witch is 1 day shy from a Month since i orderd them ...
Maybe this is the indication that they are doing the same thing they did with MacMinis when they switched them to Core Duo from Single Core