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Critical bug MAY crash your rMBP with an dGPU! (Re-named)
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Just got off the phone with a senior at Apple, very nice as always, uploaded the screen captures for analysis; now we wait.
Yeah I gotta say they're very friendly and helpful at support. They even managed to find an time at the Genius Bar that didn't show up in the app or at the site.
I fully agree with you!
Wait, the black screen pause in the loading screen isn't normal? I thought it just had to do with information loading up for the system. Wow. I've never had a Kernal Panic ever, and I've put my machine under pretty rigorous engineering loads. Hope you get your issue resolved soon.
It is normal, the technician at the Apple Store told me it was simply a behaviour caused by the firmware on our models, so it's perfectly normal
Although why Apple would make it behave like that, I have no idea.
Also, 10.11.3 just got released! Intresting to see if mine crashes again after the update, and I'll be sure to note the firmware version for the GPUs, both the iGPU and dGPU.
It is normal, the technician at the Apple Store told me it was simply a behaviour caused by the firmware on our models, so it's perfectly normal
Although why Apple would make it behave like that, I have no idea.
Also, 10.11.3 just got released! Intresting to see if mine crashes again after the update, and I'll be sure to note the firmware version for the GPUs, both the iGPU and dGPU.
Well I'll have an answer on Thursday, senior from customer relations called me to let me know they're looking into it so we'll find out soon enough
Excellent!
[doublepost=1453237427][/doublepost]Just updated to .3 without any issues. Damn I love the 2 GB/s SSD so much.. Went really fast!
Although it seems like the GPU driver for the M370X was NOT updated or changed. But as sentential mentioned above, we just gotta wait until Thursday to get a view from Apple.
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Well Thursday is when I have a callback set up with the senior I was working with once he gets back from vacation. Essentially we'll get an 'official' response of whether this is a know, new or neither as far as the source of the kernel panic.
I doubt they'll fix it by Thursday but we will at least know for sure one way or another what this is. I just don't want people thinking this'll be their salvation because they may come back and say this round of MacBooks are un-repairable and offer me a buyout.
It'd sure be something if these machines turn out to have a design flaw and cause Apple to do the same as with Radeongate.. If it's just a little OS bug, I think they could sneak it in the next beta for 10.11.4, then release it and have it fixed.
I had an feeling that there was something fishy with GfxCardStatus... Good thing I never installed it then! And thanks for the heads-up with Flu.x!
Yep. Flu.x tries (unsuccessfully) to apply the profile to both graphics "cards," and causes the discrete card to flip out every time the machine switches. In reality I think Apple needs to update their graphics card drivers.... I'm running the latest 11.4 beta, any way to tell if the driver was updated? I'll post info if you can show me how to retrieve it!
I see!
The solution I found was to go to System Report(you can find this in your utilities folder or click the 'About this Mac' button and open it from there) and then Graphics. I belive it's called 'EFI driver' and my current version was 0.1.0.777. I can double check this later though, but I belive this was the one I have, and it was unchanged from .2 to .3...
Really? I've used GFX since day 1 and haven't had any issues whatsoever. Knock on wood. You're making me feel like I got the God of all rMBP 15" dGPUs, which is a good way to make me an Apple buyer for life.
Alright, I guess we won't see any new drivers soon then. And tomorrow we'll most likely have an statement from Apple about this. Again, thanks again sentential for going through all this!
Me. Too! Lol. Been using gfxCardStat since rebooting in 2007 -- from Vista to OS X after a 20 year (IIe was the last) hiatus from Apple --- including my 2012 & almost month old '15 15" rMBP's. I was at Best Buy to pick one up just before Christmas, but a 13" w/512 if possible - for my wife. We run a business together and my 2012 15" 2.7/16/768 is and has been Rock Solid - not to mention, reinvigorating my enjoyment and passion of home computing again! Using them all day, at home the iPad was just fine for a while --- until the HiDPI - high performance i7s released with incredible storage speeds, excellent for, factor and @ 5)3 time ...battery life --> and that Display! Possibly my 40'something eyes and they're deterioration enjoying the evolution of 'retina' display technology. From iPhone 4 through today's rMBP's and iMacs.
That said, this thread is two pages long. I've had one 15" rMBP - v1.0 and a loaded CTO for 3 and a ½ years. Not a single issue with apparently (one of) the problematic 650m cards from nVidia?!?!
All I do is motion and still manipulation, conversion, coloring, editing and transcoding. Much now in 4K. Now, I'm using FCP X and FCP 7 (couple of plug ins not available yet) - along with the Adobe CC Suite, nearly the entire production and some web software. Photoshop, After Effects, Premier, Prelude, Illustrator, and Lightroom. It's a phenomenal laptop in this regard, and it's ability to bring that ability 'on the go'.
I don't 'game' per se. I've an eleven year old son and we play a couple console games on his xbox together. And when Diablo dropped, I picked it up. Think I made it to level seven or eight. Just not the same as a ¼ century ago! Lol --- but it certainly looked Awesome! Played well and without glitches or frame drops. As fluent as I've played on a console. Then again, I played D1 on a Pentium 133.
I do tax my '12 and I've been taxing the '15 I got for my wife. It's the 2.8/16/1TB model, attained @ Best Buy the week before Christmas and I'm a Premier Plus member with 45 days to return it if I'm unhappy. Thing is -- I'm happier with this one than my '12! The storage system, along with gigabit ISP locally wired through TBolt II is mind bending! Downloading the CC Suite, MS Office suite or any OSX updates is incredibly fast --- and the write to disk, UnREAL! I'm truly blown away by the speed of the newer PCIe SSDs being used in comparison with the slower 2012 machines (that still hauls @ 470/445 R/W) -- and doubling the vRAM with the ability to now drive a 5K display with Thunderbolt 2 -- the killer trackpad is better, and BestBuy had it on sale for $2,799 - $400 off Apple's price and lower than the 750m 1TB models. Easy decision @ the time but after this thread ...
Then, again ...while sales of the 15" don't compare with the 13" models as well, I'm fairly certain there's more than a ½ dozen of us that have purchased one, especially on MR, and seemingly there's two (2) peeps with probs
Is that correct? And only one with a bricked unit fixed by the logic board replacement? The second is taking prophylactic measures by using crash logs or kernel panic logs to have Apple replace theirs, right? I honestly can't remember the last KP I had, maybe Leopard? Certainly not on my new rMBP. As far as a 'click' mine is currently hooked up to nearly 5,200 watts and five speakers with a pair of subs - in an audio specific production room. While we practice safety with amps and turn them on last and off first - I'm sure the order's been goofed. In studio or mobile over the Christmas party season and I've yet to hear a 'pop', click or the sort.
I'm aware of black screen and slow first quarter bar fill with either immediate fill to desktop UI or it doesn't fill and directs to desk --> I don't recall but it's the exact same behavior on the two of mine - as I'm running El Cap on my 2012 15" too. The 2015 boots up about 8-10 seconds quicker.
TL-DR I've got the same model, but the CTO w/2.8GHz & 1TB drive (-$400) @ Best Buy Christmas sale -- and about two weeks to decide whether to keep it. I'm not concerned with Sky Lake models around the corner or amazing GPU updates, cause the price will be high, the performance increase small, and energy savings, insignificant -- my '12 gets 3.5-4 hours off AC, 2015 gets 8-9 hours a day. That's huge. SL may offer another 60 minutes. And the current iGPU is light years ahead of my Intel4000 that runs the El Cap UI and my apps that don't call for the 650m just fine. That said, the IrisPro's performance is certainly excellent. This may be the biggest improvement to the rMBP 16 model, possibly with the new keyboard. I'm enjoying the new trackpad but I'm a bit concerned (owned the 2008 w/8600 and had a pair of LBs replaced before selling and upgrading to a 2011 ....) and will do some more research ...about this issue. That said, I'll go back and check ...it seems this thread and it's five pages have been filled by two people with the issue. One that's been affected. The board replaced. The other just worried because they're running a business, need a computer (should have two if that important! They're magical, how the 'system' works, and to boot to the desktop through a couple dozen million lines of code, things do break when the magic doesn't work!) ...and has decided to either have it replaced or argue for replacement with a KP log and no ill effect?
Have I read this correctly? Lol w/TLDR. My bad. Sorry for the novel but as an owner of the original and the newest I've got to make a decision. Quickly. I'd rather keep it because the same TB model will be priced the same. Storage speeds are currently top of the mountain and unchallenged and displays as well as build are perfect. I'd rather have a third USB slot than SD, but the TB 2's docking/breakout options are now numerous and offer everything plus two with a single cord.
Last question, my machine does seem to ramp up the fan a bit. At start for sure -- and it's heating up (fans keep it around 78-85° or so) -- definitely more so than the 2012. But two minutes after a fresh boot, it cools, fans ramp down and everything returns to normal. It's hooked up to a USB 3 NAS & USB 3 4 port hub, filled with four sticks, drives or what not. It's also pulling iCloud, OneDrive, Dropbox, and Google Drive up to sync with a wired gigabit connection. My thoughts are its just getting nailed with info and busy reading and writing and Tx/Rx'ing data. Sys Mntr seems to show the same without a massive CPU or GPU load --- with the exception of Adobe's CC suite also loading, it'll use the CPU and a couple cores to phone home, app update or sync Behance/TypeKit.
if you were I (& made it this far
) would you return it? Knowing you'll need a computer over the next couple months as much as any other time of the year with booking summer events? Wait on the SL update & GPU decision? My concern, too many dGPU issues and Apple will drop them from constrained environments -- ala, rMBP. They did with the 21.5" iMac. As the iGPU's abilities improve, the 'need' for most isn't necessarily there. If like to see Quadro, but AMD is recognized and used for manipulation in Photo Shop. After Effects can't utilize it. But IrisPro is fortunately damn good at compute. Also, FWIW, gfxCardStat works fine on ElCap. Using it a month and it's definitely doing its thing. The system has chief authority but she I want discreet without the permission of OS X, it's easy to turn it on ...& really the only thing I use it for!
J
Anytime, Travis is supposed to give me an update mid-afternoon and then Alex gets to decide if anything what happens to my MBP
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Me. Too! Lol. Been using gfxCardStat since rebooting in 2007 -- from Vista to OS X after a 20 year (IIe was the last) hiatus from Apple --- including my 2012 & almost month old '15 15" rMBP's. I was at Best Buy to pick one up just before Christmas, but a 13" w/512 if possible - for my wife. We run a business together and my 2012 15" 2.7/16/768 is and has been Rock Solid - not to mention, reinvigorating my enjoyment and passion of home computing again! Using them all day, at home the iPad was just fine for a while --- until the HiDPI - high performance i7s released with incredible storage speeds, excellent for, factor and @ 5)3 time ...battery life --> and that Display! Possibly my 40'something eyes and they're deterioration enjoying the evolution of 'retina' display technology. From iPhone 4 through today's rMBP's and iMacs.
That said, this thread is two pages long. I've had one 15" rMBP - v1.0 and a loaded CTO for 3 and a ½ years. Not a single issue with apparently (one of) the problematic 650m cards from nVidia?!?!
All I do is motion and still manipulation, conversion, coloring, editing and transcoding. Much now in 4K. Now, I'm using FCP X and FCP 7 (couple of plug ins not available yet) - along with the Adobe CC Suite, nearly the entire production and some web software. Photoshop, After Effects, Premier, Prelude, Illustrator, and Lightroom. It's a phenomenal laptop in this regard, and it's ability to bring that ability 'on the go'.
I don't 'game' per se. I've an eleven year old son and we play a couple console games on his xbox together. And when Diablo dropped, I picked it up. Think I made it to level seven or eight. Just not the same as a ¼ century ago! Lol --- but it certainly looked Awesome! Played well and without glitches or frame drops. As fluent as I've played on a console. Then again, I played D1 on a Pentium 133.
I do tax my '12 and I've been taxing the '15 I got for my wife. It's the 2.8/16/1TB model, attained @ Best Buy the week before Christmas and I'm a Premier Plus member with 45 days to return it if I'm unhappy. Thing is -- I'm happier with this one than my '12! The storage system, along with gigabit ISP locally wired through TBolt II is mind bending! Downloading the CC Suite, MS Office suite or any OSX updates is incredibly fast --- and the write to disk, UnREAL! I'm truly blown away by the speed of the newer PCIe SSDs being used in comparison with the slower 2012 machines (that still hauls @ 470/445 R/W) -- and doubling the vRAM with the ability to now drive a 5K display with Thunderbolt 2 -- the killer trackpad is better, and BestBuy had it on sale for $2,799 - $400 off Apple's price and lower than the 750m 1TB models. Easy decision @ the time but after this thread ...
Then, again ...while sales of the 15" don't compare with the 13" models as well, I'm fairly certain there's more than a ½ dozen of us that have purchased one, especially on MR, and seemingly there's two (2) peeps with probs
Is that correct? And only one with a bricked unit fixed by the logic board replacement? The second is taking prophylactic measures by using crash logs or kernel panic logs to have Apple replace theirs, right? I honestly can't remember the last KP I had, maybe Leopard? Certainly not on my new rMBP. As far as a 'click' mine is currently hooked up to nearly 5,200 watts and five speakers with a pair of subs - in an audio specific production room. While we practice safety with amps and turn them on last and off first - I'm sure the order's been goofed. In studio or mobile over the Christmas party season and I've yet to hear a 'pop', click or the sort.
I'm aware of black screen and slow first quarter bar fill with either immediate fill to desktop UI or it doesn't fill and directs to desk --> I don't recall but it's the exact same behavior on the two of mine - as I'm running El Cap on my 2012 15" too. The 2015 boots up about 8-10 seconds quicker.
TL-DR I've got the same model, but the CTO w/2.8GHz & 1TB drive (-$400) @ Best Buy Christmas sale -- and about two weeks to decide whether to keep it. I'm not concerned with Sky Lake models around the corner or amazing GPU updates, cause the price will be high, the performance increase small, and energy savings, insignificant -- my '12 gets 3.5-4 hours off AC, 2015 gets 8-9 hours a day. That's huge. SL may offer another 60 minutes. And the current iGPU is light years ahead of my Intel4000 that runs the El Cap UI and my apps that don't call for the 650m just fine. That said, the IrisPro's performance is certainly excellent. This may be the biggest improvement to the rMBP 16 model, possibly with the new keyboard. I'm enjoying the new trackpad but I'm a bit concerned (owned the 2008 w/8600 and had a pair of LBs replaced before selling and upgrading to a 2011 ....) and will do some more research ...about this issue. That said, I'll go back and check ...it seems this thread and it's five pages have been filled by two people with the issue. One that's been affected. The board replaced. The other just worried because they're running a business, need a computer (should have two if that important! They're magical, how the 'system' works, and to boot to the desktop through a couple dozen million lines of code, things do break when the magic doesn't work!) ...and has decided to either have it replaced or argue for replacement with a KP log and no ill effect?
Have I read this correctly? Lol w/TLDR. My bad. Sorry for the novel but as an owner of the original and the newest I've got to make a decision. Quickly. I'd rather keep it because the same TB model will be priced the same. Storage speeds are currently top of the mountain and unchallenged and displays as well as build are perfect. I'd rather have a third USB slot than SD, but the TB 2's docking/breakout options are now numerous and offer everything plus two with a single cord.
Last question, my machine does seem to ramp up the fan a bit. At start for sure -- and it's heating up (fans keep it around 78-85° or so) -- definitely more so than the 2012. But two minutes after a fresh boot, it cools, fans ramp down and everything returns to normal. It's hooked up to a USB 3 NAS & USB 3 4 port hub, filled with four sticks, drives or what not. It's also pulling iCloud, OneDrive, Dropbox, and Google Drive up to sync with a wired gigabit connection. My thoughts are its just getting nailed with info and busy reading and writing and Tx/Rx'ing data. Sys Mntr seems to show the same without a massive CPU or GPU load --- with the exception of Adobe's CC suite also loading, it'll use the CPU and a couple cores to phone home, app update or sync Behance/TypeKit.
if you were I (& made it this far
Also, FWIW, gfxCardStat works fine on ElCap. Using it a month and it's definitely doing its thing. The system has chief authority but she I want discreet without the permission of OS X, it's easy to turn it on ...& really the only thing I use it for!
J
If you're asking for buying advice I'll try and keep as to the point as possible. Skylake as a platform is a complete dud. There is almost nothing redeeming about it. Cannonlake appears better but that's awhile away.
Zen as a platform is far more interesting but Apple will never use it.
Best Case the new MBPs get Thunderbolt 3 at full speed and a official eGPU dock/bay plus a Polaris GPU. That would be a worthwhile upgrade especially if it supports Rezence.
Most likely we will get a thinner less useful MBP with Rezence and TB3 and no GPU
Sentenial,
You're one of the two with issues, correct?
So, like I mentioned earlier, hang on to the mid 15 with the savings I got, eh? They're not going to increase speed of storage or CPU (significantly), efficiency may be better but not the four gen leap I'm seeing between 12 & 15 models -- display, well they just don't GET any Better! -- and very few with the issue this thread is addressing, correct?
Just seems as though you and the one that started the thread have had a back and forth of a few dozen replies vs. 5 pages of folks experiencing the same challenge you are. I think. I've read it again and I've researched some since writing and it's certainly not as widespread as I'd initially thought. NVidia issues have been well documented in the past -- especially the notorious 8600 which I was a LBoard victim. That said, I still have my 2011 17" w/I believe the 6770? It's a late '11/2.5GHz 17" model I've held on to and updated with solid state storage in its old spinner bay. No issue at all with the AMD graphics on it.
As far as this switching between integrated and discrete in OS X ...and it being an issue since 10.6 -- I'm just ignorant I guess but I've yet to see it fail. GfxCardStat has always been an excellent tool to use to have some semblance of control of graphics along with fan control but only to use discrete, not the iGPU --- and certainly not the opposite.
Anyway sounds like you concur. It ain't gettin much better. & it's not really the fault of Apple. Intel, nVidia & AMD's aging 28nm fabs and Intel 'catching up' with the latter two using the SoC design of mobile with their iGPUs. While they're not going to get you 60fps @ 4K and the latest AAA, they're certainly more capable than most discrete GPU choices we had even on the desk just ½ decade ago. When augmented by low level access like Metal and DirextX 12's by developers, optimized by the OS and integrated into a true 'system that includes screaming fast I/O like TBolt 2 or 3, USB 3 & HDMI as well as utilizing the cutting edge storage solutions, battery efficiency and display technology - @ a pound a core of (some) the quickest mobile quad cores Intel releases, it's a Win all the way around. In fact, I've given up trying to find a better rig to run Windows on. I've given up on the Surface line after owning 1, 3 & 4 -- I did return within the 45 day window, I've tried Lenovo, ASUS & HP/Dell -- no one matches the experience of 'computing' regardless of OS of choice - if ambidextrous like me, than Apple. Bootcamp being a full fledged and supported utility today unlike the beta training wheels it was when I made the switch for good in '07 -- supports that fact
A lot to be said for a real, genuine working trackpad. No WONDER Windows went 'touch' lol
I'm going to hang on to it, transcode some nasty 4K footage to 1080p pro res I shot over the weekend and try to stress it out this week -- as I've got nearly four hours worth as well as a couple thousand raw shots I've been meaning to batch convert (stills). It's the discrete card that I need in mine, for the mortgage payment. If I wasn't editing video, sound and stills I'd have me a 13"/16/512 IrisPro yesterday! It'll play EVERY game I'm interested in! (Circa 1980s!)
You're one of the two with issues, correct?
So, like I mentioned earlier, hang on to the mid 15 with the savings I got, eh? They're not going to increase speed of storage or CPU (significantly), efficiency may be better but not the four gen leap I'm seeing between 12 & 15 models -- display, well they just don't GET any Better!
-- and very few with the issue this thread is addressing, correct?Just seems as though you and the one that started the thread have had a back and forth of a few dozen replies vs. 5 pages of folks experiencing the same challenge you are. I think. I've read it again and I've researched some since writing and it's certainly not as widespread as I'd initially thought. NVidia issues have been well documented in the past -- especially the notorious 8600 which I was a LBoard victim. That said, I still have my 2011 17" w/I believe the 6770? It's a late '11/2.5GHz 17" model I've held on to and updated with solid state storage in its old spinner bay. No issue at all with the AMD graphics on it.
As far as this switching between integrated and discrete in OS X ...and it being an issue since 10.6 -- I'm just ignorant I guess but I've yet to see it fail. GfxCardStat has always been an excellent tool to use to have some semblance of control of graphics along with fan control but only to use discrete, not the iGPU --- and certainly not the opposite.
Anyway sounds like you concur. It ain't gettin much better. & it's not really the fault of Apple. Intel, nVidia & AMD's aging 28nm fabs and Intel 'catching up' with the latter two using the SoC design of mobile with their iGPUs. While they're not going to get you 60fps @ 4K and the latest AAA, they're certainly more capable than most discrete GPU choices we had even on the desk just ½ decade ago. When augmented by low level access like Metal and DirextX 12's by developers, optimized by the OS and integrated into a true 'system that includes screaming fast I/O like TBolt 2 or 3, USB 3 & HDMI as well as utilizing the cutting edge storage solutions, battery efficiency and display technology - @ a pound a core of (some) the quickest mobile quad cores Intel releases, it's a Win all the way around. In fact, I've given up trying to find a better rig to run Windows on. I've given up on the Surface line after owning 1, 3 & 4 -- I did return within the 45 day window, I've tried Lenovo, ASUS & HP/Dell -- no one matches the experience of 'computing' regardless of OS of choice - if ambidextrous like me, than Apple. Bootcamp being a full fledged and supported utility today unlike the beta training wheels it was when I made the switch for good in '07 -- supports that fact
A lot to be said for a real, genuine working trackpad. No WONDER Windows went 'touch' lol
I'm going to hang on to it, transcode some nasty 4K footage to 1080p pro res I shot over the weekend and try to stress it out this week -- as I've got nearly four hours worth as well as a couple thousand raw shots I've been meaning to batch convert (stills). It's the discrete card that I need in mine, for the mortgage payment. If I wasn't editing video, sound and stills I'd have me a 13"/16/512 IrisPro yesterday! It'll play EVERY game I'm interested in! (Circa 1980s!)
Sentenial,
You're one of the two with issues, correct?
So, like I mentioned earlier, hang on to the mid 15 with the savings I got, eh? They're not going to increase speed of storage or CPU (significantly), efficiency may be better but not the four gen leap I'm seeing between 12 & 15 models -- display, well they just don't GET any Better!
Just seems as though you and the one that started the thread have had a back and forth of a few dozen replies vs. 5 pages of folks experiencing the same challenge you are. I think. I've read it again and I've researched some since writing and it's certainly not as widespread as I'd initially thought. NVidia issues have been well documented in the past -- especially the notorious 8600 which I was a LBoard victim. That said, I still have my 2011 17" w/I believe the 6770? It's a late '11/2.5GHz 17" model I've held on to and updated with solid state storage in its old spinner bay. No issue at all with the AMD graphics on it.
As far as this switching between integrated and discrete in OS X ...and it being an issue since 10.6 -- I'm just ignorant I guess but I've yet to see it fail. GfxCardStat has always been an excellent tool to use to have some semblance of control of graphics along with fan control but only to use discrete, not the iGPU --- and certainly not the opposite.
Anyway sounds like you concur. It ain't gettin much better. & it's not really the fault of Apple. Intel, nVidia & AMD's aging 28nm fabs and Intel 'catching up' with the latter two using the SoC design of mobile with their iGPUs. While they're not going to get you 60fps @ 4K and the latest AAA, they're certainly more capable than most discrete GPU choices we had even on the desk just ½ decade ago. When augmented by low level access like Metal and DirextX 12's by developers, optimized by the OS and integrated into a true 'system that includes screaming fast I/O like TBolt 2 or 3, USB 3 & HDMI as well as utilizing the cutting edge storage solutions, battery efficiency and display technology - @ a pound a core of (some) the quickest mobile quad cores Intel releases, it's a Win all the way around. In fact, I've given up trying to find a better rig to run Windows on. I've given up on the Surface line after owning 1, 3 & 4 -- I did return within the 45 day window, I've tried Lenovo, ASUS & HP/Dell -- no one matches the experience of 'computing' regardless of OS of choice - if ambidextrous like me, than Apple. Bootcamp being a full fledged and supported utility today unlike the beta training wheels it was when I made the switch for good in '07 -- supports that fact
A lot to be said for a real, genuine working trackpad. No WONDER Windows went 'touch' lol
I'm going to hang on to it, transcode some nasty 4K footage to 1080p pro res I shot over the weekend and try to stress it out this week -- as I've got nearly four hours worth as well as a couple thousand raw shots I've been meaning to batch convert (stills). It's the discrete card that I need in mine, for the mortgage payment. If I wasn't editing video, sound and stills I'd have me a 13"/16/512 IrisPro yesterday! It'll play EVERY game I'm interested in! (Circa 1980s!)
I remember back in may when the latest rMBP was released... I hoped for Broadwell and an 950/960M GPU. But so wasen't the case!
The M370X does handle the games I throw at it quite well, and that includes CSGO, Insurgency etc. I thought that 1080p gaming was the one I'd play best in, but it was really bad and I found 1440x900 the best solution in Source based games. Farming Sim crashes every time I try to change the resolution and save the settings to test, so I haven't gotten to test that.. Cities Skylines runs pretty badly, but it chosed 'high' quality when I first ran it, so it's possible that medium runs better, although 900p is the highest resolution it displays... I think we have a change in OS X gaming with Metal, Maffia 3 has been confirmed for Mac!
Apple chosed a heck of a CPU, RAM and SSD for the rMBP, but the GPU lacks behind.. I know people don't buy Macs for gaming but for the high price I expect better than an card that's slightly below the 945M.
Pairing it with my 250 mbit/s connection and the rMBP's 2 GB/s SSD is an insane combination!
I think Apple are where they want to be, only offering the top speced Mac to have an dGPU. It'd be quite weird to drop it since there are people who need powerful graphics on the go.
I mentioned above that 1080p looked blurry and bad in ganes and you've mentioned before you play games and I was wondering what the best resolution was? I find that 1440x900 is the best due the Hi-DPI mode for that specific resolution. Damn, even 2800x1800 in CSGO looks worse
Any tips?
Spoke with engineering and so far here is what I can say. This is not a "known" issue and they're working to try and duplicate it.
The main question for me they had was long term if graphics switching is disabled does the Mac continue to KP?
I'm going to do that now if anyone cares to weigh in I'll pass it along
The main question for me they had was long term if graphics switching is disabled does the Mac continue to KP?
I'm going to do that now if anyone cares to weigh in I'll pass it along
Nkce to hear they're working on it, stanft mention earlier that he experienced his first crash when he disabled it:
Although I don't know for how long he had it on and if he still does.
I only disabled automatic graphics switching in order to force the rMBP to activate the dGPU. The KP happened in the exact moment I clicked the checkbox and disabled the option.
Nevertheless, it was the one and only situation I had a KP on my rMBP. Currently, I have the automatic switching activated again, and I have not experienced another KP.