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venom600

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Not nearly enough? Are you sure? 90% of monitors are 350-400 nits. People watched Plasma TVs in bright rooms and these were barely 100 nits.

I have a very bright room and I watch SDR content (around 300 nits) on my OLED TV with no problem.

He's being a bit ridiculous. Most people don't even run monitors anywhere near their max brightness even if it can do more than 350. I remember when the first Cinema Display came out and we were blown away with how eye searingly bright it was... and it was only 180 nits.
 

uller6

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Just to point out that @uller6 is wrong citing 350 cd/m², both U2723QE and U3223QE are rated at 400 cd/m² as per Dell specs.
My mistake, they are 400! I'll update the old post, but, I still maintain that 400 nits isn't bright enough for daytime use in my office either.
 
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uller6

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He's being a bit ridiculous. Most people don't even run monitors anywhere near their max brightness even if it can do more than 350. I remember when the first Cinema Display came out and we were blown away with how eye searingly bright it was... and it was only 180 nits.
Sorry you feel that way. I'm the one that needs to get work done, and my windows are so big that it's almost like working outside in direct sunlight. I could put up curtains, but I also like to look outside at greenery every once in a while. I run my M1 iMac at maximum brightness all day every day (unless it's raining), and I still wish it got brighter.
 
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venom600

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Sorry you feel that way. I'm the one that needs to get work done, and my windows are so big that it's almost like working outside in direct sunlight. I could put up curtains, but I also like to look outside at greenery every once in a while. I run my M1 iMac at maximum brightness all day every day (unless it's raining), and I still wish it got brighter.

Apologies, I misread your comment. I envy your massive windows with natural light! I don't know what your office environment is like and I can't tell you what you need to work in it. What I was trying to say is most people that work in offices aren't using monitors that can even approach 350 nits. They are using decade old monitors that aren't even LED backlit or the very cheapest monitors their IT departments can source.

We are really spoiled here... most people don't get to work with equipment anywhere near these specs on a day to day basis.
 
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uller6

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Apologies, I misread your comment. I envy your massive windows with natural light! I don't know what your office environment is like and I can't tell you what you need to work in it. What I was trying to say is most people that work in offices aren't using monitors that can even approach 350 nits. They are using decade old monitors that aren't even LED backlit or the very cheapest monitors their IT departments can source.

We are really spoiled here... most people don't get to work with equipment anywhere near these specs on a day to day basis.
No worries! And I totally agree with you: for most offices these Dells are probably fine. I'm in a very niche situation at home, but at work I'm happy with a few old 24" Dell monitors that struggle to reach 250 nits. But unlike my home office, my work office is a windowless room so the low brightness is much easier to handle.
 

blossomdearie

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Hello

I have just received a new Dell U3223qe. It's running at 4k 60hz with full speed USB 3.1 using USB-C, with a MacBook Pro 16 Max.

You can set USB speed in the monitor menu: USB-C prioritization -> High Data Speed.

Apart from that, the monitor is great. It looks very nice and integrates ethernet and USB hub, very convenient.
Hi. I'm using the new Dell U3223QEvia an M1 Mac Mini and don't like the monitor at all so far. Text is very blurred. Aren't you finding that?
I am connected via a 4K high speed HDMI cable as it was recommended I not use the USB-C as the hub monitor would try to charge my Mac Mini.
U3223QE and U2723QE do both have 3.840 × 2.160 (60 Hz)!

So the big question is, will the 31.5" or the 27" Display be the best when using a mac.

As far as I read it's better to have "pixel doubling" than any resolution between because of performance issues under macOS while scaling?

What would you do? Is 31.5" too big for a desk setup and take 27", or is 27" too small?
And what resolution will you choose?
I have just bought the U3223Qe to go with my new M1 Mac Mini. Don't like the resolution at all with the text. I've done the best I can with the settings, but can't make it any better.
 

xraydoc

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I have just bought the U3223Qe to go with my new M1 Mac Mini. Don't like the resolution at all with the text. I've done the best I can with the settings, but can't make it any better.
32” at 4K will look different than 27” at 5K if you’re very accustomed to Apple’s displays. Make sure to connect the display via USB-C or DisplayPort; HDMI can cause some colorspace issues (in my experience) which may decrease text sharpness.
 

venom600

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I am connected via a 4K high speed HDMI cable as it was recommended I not use the USB-C as the hub monitor would try to charge my Mac Mini.

That doesn’t make sense. USB C power delivery works by devices requesting the power they need up to the amount available. The mini wouldn’t request power from the monitor so none would be sent.
 

joevt

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That doesn’t make sense. USB C power delivery works by devices requesting the power they need up to the amount available. The mini wouldn’t request power from the monitor so none would be sent.
An electrical device can attempt to take a lot of current: a short circuit = ∞ amps except wires have a resistance and will melt at high currents. The supplying device should have a method to stop that (a fuse, an electrical breaker, a resistor, some kind of current limiting circuit, I don't know).

USB-C power deliver has both devices negotiating the amounts (how much voltage a device can use, how much current it will take, how much voltage and current a source device can supply). A well behaved device won't try to use more current than was negotiated. A well behaved source device will supply the negotiated voltage.

The Mac mini's USB-C ports don't request power and don't use power. It would not be well behaved if it tried to use power that it did not request/negotiate.
 
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venom600

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An electrical device can attempt to take a lot of current: a short circuit = ∞ amps except wires have a resistance and will melt at high currents. The supplying device should have a method to stop that (a fuse, an electrical breaker, a resistor, some kind of current limiting circuit, I don't know).

USB-C power deliver has both devices negotiating the amounts (how much voltage a device can use, how much current it will take, how much voltage and current a source device can supply). A well behaved device won't try to use more current than was negotiated. A well behaved source device will supply the negotiated voltage.

The Mac mini's USB-C ports don't request power and don't use power. It would not be well behaved if it tried to use power that it did not request/negotiate.

That's EXACTLY what I said. ?
 

joevt

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That's EXACTLY what I said. ?
I wanted to emphasize the question of whether or not the source of the power has a choice in sending the power. The source chooses the voltage but it's the device connected to the source (the load) that chooses the current. For example, a wall plug has 120V. You can short circuit it triggering a 15A circuit breaker (hopefully, otherwise your house burns down). In this case, the source does not decide how much current to send and it would exceed 15A if there wasn't a 15A circuit breaker. The load has to have a resistance that is not too low. Do power delivery sources have circuitry to measure current to make sure the load isn't taking more than was negotiated or do they just trust the load?
 
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WP31

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Hi. I'm using the new Dell U3223QEvia an M1 Mac Mini and don't like the monitor at all so far. Text is very blurred. Aren't you finding that?
I am connected via a 4K high speed HDMI cable as it was recommended I not use the USB-C as the hub monitor would try to charge my Mac Mini.

I have just bought the U3223Qe to go with my new M1 Mac Mini. Don't like the resolution at all with the text. I've done the best I can with the settings, but can't make it any better.
M1 MBA -> U3223QE. I'm using one TB port for a 27" LG5k @ 2560x1440 (high resolution) and the other TB port to drive the U3223QE though a StarTech USB32HD4k DisplayLink adaptor. I have to use DisplayLink for the 'second' external monitor to work. Then I use BetterDummy to set up a 3024x1701 (high resolution) option for the U3223QE. The 3223 physical UI size matches the 27" UI and it's pretty clear. Not perfect but not horrible.
 

Jeo_cz

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Hi. I'm using the new Dell U3223QEvia an M1 Mac Mini and don't like the monitor at all so far. Text is very blurred. Aren't you finding that?
I am connected via a 4K high speed HDMI cable as it was recommended I not use the USB-C as the hub monitor would try to charge my Mac Mini.

I have just bought the U3223Qe to go with my new M1 Mac Mini. Don't like the resolution at all with the text. I've done the best I can with the settings, but can't make it any better.
Have you tried to completely switched off the font smoothing through terminal? Write this:

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 0

And restart.
 

yinyang

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Have you tried to completely switched off the font smoothing through terminal? Write this:

defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 0

And restart.
Or you can try this app...

 
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greenbreadmmm

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Hi. I'm using the new Dell U3223QEvia an M1 Mac Mini and don't like the monitor at all so far. Text is very blurred. Aren't you finding that?
I am connected via a 4K high speed HDMI cable as it was recommended I not use the USB-C as the hub monitor would try to charge my Mac Mini.

I have just bought the U3223Qe to go with my new M1 Mac Mini. Don't like the resolution at all with the text. I've done the best I can with the settings, but can't make it any better.
I hate to ask, but you adjusted the scaling yes?
 

ryankei

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sign up a new email and they'll send you 10% off the already discounted price.

Got mine for $562
Currently looking to order a 27", got the 10% signup discount code and it looks like it won't apply to products like this that already have a discount applied. How were you all able to stack it?
 

vddobrev

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Well done macrumors for putting it up against ASD:
 
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