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Question for you who have a Mac mini M1.
Can you connect it via both HDMI and USB-C at the same time?
HDMI if you want to use it for image signal and USB-C to access the built-in hub (USB-A ports)?
Do all USB-C ports have PD?
 

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Got my third replacement today.
After unboxing it, I noticed many little scratches all over the display. Don´t know what to do anymore. Does anyone know any good alternative to the U2723QE?
Have you tried to clean it? It can be glue or leftovers from production
 

Spacegray

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Got my third replacement today.
After unboxing it, I noticed many little scratches all over the display. Don´t know what to do anymore. Does anyone know any good alternative to the U2723QE?
Looks like scratches from dirt on the screen. Wasn't the screen covered by this soft protection shield, that normally is fixed on the upper bezel with two tapes?
 

Mac Hammer Fan

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I finally cancelled my order for a Studio Display after six weeks and bought a Dell U3223QE in the Netherlands. It was delivered the next day. The monitor is larger and at 3008x1692 I have more space and the text remains crisp even when it is scaled. The colors are amazing and the contrast is very good. A pleasant surprise. With the combination of a Sonos and the speakers of the Mac Studio I have great sound. For the price I paid it was a better deal than the ASD.
I also have read very positive reviews of this monitor. 👍
 
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kenb31

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The screen was covered with the protection shield. Everything seemed normal with the packaging. I tried cleaning it, but I can literally feel grooves when I put my finger over it.

Every other monitor I looked for is my missing something. Let it be LAN, PiP or 90W power delivery.

As a computer science student, the Apple Studio Display is way too expensive for me.
 

mrc_89

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The screen was covered with the protection shield. Everything seemed normal with the packaging. I tried cleaning it, but I can literally feel grooves when I put my finger over it.

Every other monitor I looked for is my missing something. Let it be LAN, PiP or 90W power delivery.

As a computer science student, the Apple Studio Display is way too expensive for me.
Dell used to allow you to still use your current unit while waiting for a replacement, not sure if it is still the case.
 

kenb31

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Dell used to allow you to still use your current unit while waiting for a replacement, not sure if it is still the case.
It´s still the case. But after three faulty units I really lost my hope towards the U2723QE.
 

torontotim

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Currently at support call with dell as I want a replacement display my display only delivers 1400:1 ratio and as they are advertising 2000:1 then I want a replacement.
The support staff in the phone did not even know what I was talking about and tried all bunch off stuff that was totally wrong.
The contrast ratio are limited to the hardware. can't understand that there premium support did not know that. And when I was telling them that I have confirmed it with a colormeter and a spectrameter they was just replaying that they don't have support for 3rd party equipment. Tried to explain it for them but it was a lost case.

Finally I did get a hold of a good support staff on Facebook (dell) let's hope he can replace it.

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So he did transfer the case to senior staff that will replay to me within two days.
If Dell don't replace this display I'll get so disappointed as the contrast ratio is only 73% of what they promise.
1400:1 is not good for a display that promise 2000:1. My guess is that's some kind of "issue" with the rev00 display sadly.
Why do you need support to replace the display? I guess if you got it on sale and that price isn't available to simply re-order and return the old one?

2000:1 is going to be the max as measured in a lab with specific test scenarios and equipment. Did you replicate their lab tests on your end?

How are you guys measuring the contrast ratio?
 
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Why do you need support to replace the display? I guess if you got it on sale and that price isn't available to simply re-order and return the old one?

2000:1 is going to be the max as measured in a lab with specific test scenarios and equipment. Did you replicate their lab tests on your end?

How are you guys measuring the contrast ratio?
Yes on all, I’m using a colormeter and/or spectrameter to measure it and once again people are wrong.
Contrast ratio is between black and white. Just don’t let light slip inside the colormeter / spectrameter and the display and it’s good to go.

I’m outside return window that’s why I’m talking to support to replace it on warranty
 

Mac Hammer Fan

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My new display Dell U3223QE flickers occasionally. Then I have to restart the computer. Should I be worried?
 

Degrader

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Yes on all, I’m using a colormeter and/or spectrameter to measure it and once again people are wrong.
Contrast ratio is between black and white. Just don’t let light slip inside the colormeter / spectrameter and the display and it’s good to go.

I’m outside return window that’s why I’m talking to support to replace it on warranty
It indeed looks like that all Rev A00's have low contrast ratio, but it is curious that I found a new review this week where they've measured 2000:1. The label is also visible on one of the pictures where one could see clearly A00.

To be honest, I really wanted to have an A00 sample, not ofcourse of the low contrast, but because it has a much stronger roll-off than A01 in HDR so that highlights are more detailed.
 

password4321

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I decided to give it another try and, once again, terrible backlight bleeding on both my 27". Enough is enough, even 200$ IPS monitors do better than these.
 
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Spacegray

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Rtings also mentioned problems with backlight bleed in their recent test of the U2723QE. So it seems to be just typical for this model.
 

Degrader

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I decided to give it another try and, once again, terrible backlight bleeding on both my 27". Enough is enough, even 200$ IPS monitors do better than these.
Could you make a picture of it? Be sure to have enough distance to eliminate IPS glow.
 

Mr47

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In a dark/er room and not using light and being in dark scenes mostly just avoid this screen. Otherwise this screen is great, this screen is so much better then my old LG27UL850-W which I worked with again last weekend. Also that one has issues with the IPS Glow, but again only in dark rooms and using dark colours.
 

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Dell will send out a replacement for my display that did have 1400:1 ratio.

I’m happy with the support :)
 

lowimpact

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The backlight flickering in Smart HDR modes is wild - dark scenes and subtitles turn the display into a strobe light.

Is there any way to disable the local dimming entirely in Smart HDR modes?
 

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The backlight flickering in Smart HDR modes is wild - dark scenes and subtitles turn the display into a strobe light.

Is there any way to disable the local dimming entirely in Smart HDR modes?
No, there's no option to turn off local dimming. However it is not active in SDR mode, so maybe that's an option for you?

I'm glad that Dell has finally admitted that the flicker problem is caused by the monitor itself. I was in a heated discussion for several weeks with them and asking me to update the drivers, to test another DisplayPort cable, to reinstall Display Manager, etc. But when I showed them a video where I compare the U2723QE and the U2720Q directly to eacht other in HDR mode, the Dell engineering team has finally escalated the issue to the development team. So I hope they will come with a firmware update.They would come back to me with an answer this week, so I'm curious.
 

lowimpact

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No, there's no option to turn off local dimming. However it is not active in SDR mode, so maybe that's an option for you?

I'm glad that Dell has finally admitted that the flicker problem is caused by the monitor itself. I was in a heated discussion for several weeks with them and asking me to update the drivers, to test another DisplayPort cable, to reinstall Display Manager, etc. But when I showed them a video where I compare the U2723QE and the U2720Q directly to eacht other in HDR mode, the Dell engineering team has finally escalated the issue to the development team. So I hope they will come with a firmware update.They would come back to me with an answer this week, so I'm curious.
Same - "We will have this raised with our product engineering team and will get back to you with an update. The turnaround time is between 24-48 working hrs."

The SDR modes are all fine. There are lots of other side effects to being stuck on SDR modes though - the biggest one is that the display brightness is +/- 100 nits lower in SDR modes than HDR modes. Essentially the monitor only appears to be able to hit its rated 400 nit brightness in Smart HDR modes and is noticeably dimmer in SDR modes so not being able to use Smart HDR modes is especially frustrating.

Also, you won't get served the highest quality wide gamut rec.2020 4k video streams when streaming video unless your display is recognized as an HDR display. This means that no Smart HDR = no wide gamut content consumption.

Essentially unless you turn on one of the Smart HDR modes you're stuck with a $700+ 300-350 nit display that only displays rec.709 color (essentially sRGB) for content consumption.
 

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Same - "We will have this raised with our product engineering team and will get back to you with an update. The turnaround time is between 24-48 working hrs."

The SDR modes are all fine. There are lots of other side effects to being stuck on SDR modes though - the biggest one is that the display brightness is +/- 100 nits lower in SDR modes than HDR modes. Essentially the monitor only appears to be able to hit its rated 400 nit brightness in Smart HDR modes and is noticeably dimmer in SDR modes so not being able to use Smart HDR modes is especially frustrating.

Also, you won't get served the highest quality wide gamut rec.2020 4k video streams when streaming video unless your display is recognized as an HDR display. This means that no Smart HDR = no wide gamut content consumption.

Essentially unless you turn on one of the Smart HDR modes you're stuck with a $700+ 300-350 nit display that only displays rec.709 color (essentially sRGB) for content consumption.
Na, the display is great at SDR perfect delata e etc
 

lowimpact

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Na, the display is great at SDR perfect delata e etc
If you are ok with the U2723QE not hitting close to the rated 400 nits of brightness in SDR modes and get a sample without contrast <1500 or excessive backlight bleed then yes it's "great at SDR" ;)
 
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