Could you tell me how good are the speakers? Most monitors have ****** speakers, but LG 4k/5k ultrafines had great speakers, are these good too?
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Dell released their newest Ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE Ultrasharp monitor
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If yes, apparently not really well. Dell notebooks with DP 1.4 support USB 3 speed and 4K 60 Hz together (prioritization data speed). With Mac you probably have to choose speed or 60 Hz.
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32UL950-W
I had the 32UL950-w for about six months before I cracked it in a table corner during moving. It was Euro 890 from Amazon, big sale, usually sales euro 1100- 1200.
LG support routed me to a local repair shop, they asked euro 760 to replace the panel, so it was a no go.
- good image, several color gamuts, when on DCI-P3, it was almost same as the 2018 MBP screen. Good contrast and brightness.
- text was good, no fuzzy, no need to sharpen, even when running scaled, as the 4k native is a kind of hard to read
- the tb3 ports good. The usb A ports a disaster, disconnecting all the time when used with usb3.0 devices.
- quality general good, but plastic not metal. Worst were the ports, the tb3 and USB cables could not be fully inserted, connectors where hanging out about 1mm from the ports.
DELL UP2720Q
I did not have the U2723Q in this thread, but the UP2720q supposed is the upper end "professional " monitor from Dell. It costs around euro 2000.
-It has two tb3 ports, same as the LG above, but unlike the LG all ports were working flawlessly. This is to expect from Dell, which is a computers producer...
- this screen is perfect regarding uniformity, not any trace of edge bleeding or luminosity differences corner to corner.
- unfortunately nothing brilliant on the displayed image, no pop-up. All colors look a bit foggy, probably a combination of the max low brightness, 250 cd/m2 with the anti reflex 3H coating.
- the text was a problem, running scaled all text was fuzzy, I had to turn up Sharpness at 100% and high contrast. This makes the text more clear but also very thinny in some apps.
I sent the Dell back after few days testing, now trying to decide between LG Ultrafine 5K and EIZO CS2740, both around Euro 1400.
Also found the 32" a kind of too big to work with. I was moving the windows in the lower screen side to avoid neck pain from looking up. At least for me 27" is perfect size.
32UL950-W
I had the 32UL950-w for about six months before I cracked it in a table corner during moving. It was Euro 890 from Amazon, big sale, usually sales euro 1100- 1200.
LG support routed me to a local repair shop, they asked euro 760 to replace the panel, so it was a no go.
- good image, several color gamuts, when on DCI-P3, it was almost same as the 2018 MBP screen. Good contrast and brightness.
- text was good, no fuzzy, no need to sharpen, even when running scaled, as the 4k native is a kind of hard to read
- the tb3 ports good. The usb A ports a disaster, disconnecting all the time when used with usb3.0 devices.
- quality general good, but plastic not metal. Worst were the ports, the tb3 and USB cables could not be fully inserted, connectors where hanging out about 1mm from the ports.
DELL UP2720Q
I did not have the U2723Q in this thread, but the UP2720q supposed is the upper end "professional " monitor from Dell. It costs around euro 2000.
-It has two tb3 ports, same as the LG above, but unlike the LG all ports were working flawlessly. This is to expect from Dell, which is a computers producer...
- this screen is perfect regarding uniformity, not any trace of edge bleeding or luminosity differences corner to corner.
- unfortunately nothing brilliant on the displayed image, no pop-up. All colors look a bit foggy, probably a combination of the max low brightness, 250 cd/m2 with the anti reflex 3H coating.
- the text was a problem, running scaled all text was fuzzy, I had to turn up Sharpness at 100% and high contrast. This makes the text more clear but also very thinny in some apps.
I sent the Dell back after few days testing, now trying to decide between LG Ultrafine 5K and EIZO CS2740, both around Euro 1400.
Also found the 32" a kind of too big to work with. I was moving the windows in the lower screen side to avoid neck pain from looking up. At least for me 27" is perfect size.
This is odd. I tested S2722QC with 2019 MacBook Pro 15 and was able to get 4K 60Hz with USB 3 speed. Haven't tested U2723QE (replacement unit is on the way), but no reason it would have inferior USB C port than S2722QC.
If I were to pick between these two 32'' monitor, I would pick Dell for internal PSU and 90w charging. For LG with external power brick and 60w charging (I would still need another charging brick), I would be better off with a thunderbot dock for the same cable mess.
In what ways? I have the 27UP850-W and looking at the new Dell u2723QE as it's currently £180 off RRP...
I think the warranty of the Dell is definitely over the LG one's, at least here, in Europe. So, this might be something to put in the balance too!
Hello
I have just received a new Dell U3223qe. It's running at 4k 60hz with full speed USB 3.1 using USB-C, with a MacBook Pro 16 Max.
You can set USB speed in the monitor menu: USB-C prioritization -> High Data Speed.
Apart from that, the monitor is great. It looks very nice and integrates ethernet and USB hub, very convenient.
Just ordered U2723QE, arriving Monday. I am upgrading from Apple 27” Cinema Display. I went for the 27” because it has the same display area as the ACD (596.74 mm x 335.66 mm). Mainly using it for basic productivity (Gmail, Docs, Sheets, YouTube). The bezels on the ACD are huge in comparison. I believe the U2723QE bezels are just under 7mm. Really not sure what difference to expect. The screen will be plugged into my MBP 13” 2019.
Just ordered the U3223QE from Dell AU, and it's due to be shipped end of April, though since it's just gone 'Into Production' I'm not sure if that really is the ship date - hopefully not.
For any AU people, for some reason on the official Dell site, the prices of the 32" vs 27" are very strange:
32" - AUD 1240 (approx USD 890)
27" - AUD 1769 (approx USD 1270)
So I'd either avoid ordering the 27" until they fix the price, or order the 32" like I did!! Luckily I also get a work discount so it was a no-brainer for me to order the 32".
For any AU people, for some reason on the official Dell site, the prices of the 32" vs 27" are very strange:
32" - AUD 1240 (approx USD 890)
27" - AUD 1769 (approx USD 1270)
So I'd either avoid ordering the 27" until they fix the price, or order the 32" like I did!! Luckily I also get a work discount so it was a no-brainer for me to order the 32".
Indeed, the quality control doesn't seem to be that good on these panels.I was so exited about new IPS Black panels with 2000:1 contrast, but all those examples of really bad IPS-Glow and backlight bleeding are disappointing
It should have much better quality control for that price.
However, some are better than others. Here are my 2 U3223QE, with the same settings (brightness at 38 for 120cd).
The first one is full of backlight bleed, as the second almost have any (slight bleed in the upper right corner but nothing compared to the first one).
IPS glow is still there of course, but not really annoying excepted on a black screen in a really dark room.
Contrast is as expected, measured at 1945:1 after calibration on my second unit with a black point at 0.0607cd, which is pretty good for an IPS panel.
Colors look great on this screen. They don't (and maybe can't) pop exactly the same as a Macbook screen because of the antiglare treatment on the panel, but it's really not far from that.
The other thing that MacBook screens are usually have a white point around 7000°k, or even higher (I saw some at 7500°k), which is a bit high, and then the Dell could look yellowish compared to it without proper calibration.
Last thing: my first unit has a green stuck pixel, which is visible. My second one has a...I don't really know. It looks like a blue stuck pixel, but it's not bright at all. I can't see it during the day, even with my head on the screen, nor in the dark at my normal viewing position. So I don't really know what it is. I tried to take a photo of it. On the right, it's a blue pixel in Affinity photo (1x1), and on the left, it's my "issue". But as it's not visible, that's not a deal breaker to me.
Oh and last thing (a bit annoying): I can't put my Benq screenbar on top of the screen, because it creates some backlight bleed just under, as it's pushing on the panel.
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Another weird thing: could someone confirm that this print screen, opened in at 100%, makes the display flickers?
I'm currently in 3008*1692.
Thanks!
edit: actually it doesn't happens once uploaded on the forum. The size isn't the same so something should have been changed!
I'm currently in 3008*1692.
Thanks!
edit: actually it doesn't happens once uploaded on the forum. The size isn't the same so something should have been changed!
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I’ve been searching for a replacement monitor and trying to compare the new U3223QE vs the U3219Q. Currently my set up is personal M1 MacBook Pro and work HP pro book.
Am I understanding correctly, that since neither monitor has a thunderbolt port, I’m giving up capability with my MacBook? Will I be able to use split screen for my personal computer and for work?
Also, i’m wanting to future proof, however I’m not doing any gaming or hard-core photo editing. With that said, does it make sense to go with the 19, or does the 23 have features that make it worth the extra money, given my use case of mostly productivity with occasional video watching.
Thanks!
Am I understanding correctly, that since neither monitor has a thunderbolt port, I’m giving up capability with my MacBook? Will I be able to use split screen for my personal computer and for work?
Also, i’m wanting to future proof, however I’m not doing any gaming or hard-core photo editing. With that said, does it make sense to go with the 19, or does the 23 have features that make it worth the extra money, given my use case of mostly productivity with occasional video watching.
Thanks!
I noticed the same thing today and after looking at it for a few minutes I found that what you have described seems to be "Business" pricing...?
Here is the link to the normal pricing.
You can see in the header navigation it's: Shop For Home > Accessories > Monitors & Monitor Accessories > Monitors > UltraSharp U2723QE
As opposed to the more expensive option: For Business > Accessories > Monitors & Monitor Accessories > Monitors > UltraSharp U2723QE
As to why it's more expensive for business customers I do not know. I couldn't see any noticeable difference in specs, support or warranties other than a different order code "Mu2723qeau". But that would only be to apply the higher pricing as both Manufacturer and Dell part numbers are the same.
Either way, it's okay to go ahead and order the 27" for <$1k if that's what you want. Just use the correct link.
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Does anyone have it setup with the U3223QE or the U2723QE and an Apple ATD side-by-side? I'd like to see how the surfaces compare...
I want to add a Dell to my setup, and my OCD prevents me from using just one ATD next to the Dell, and I will probably have to go with an ATD / Dell / ATD setup.
I want to add a Dell to my setup, and my OCD prevents me from using just one ATD next to the Dell, and I will probably have to go with an ATD / Dell / ATD setup.
@grator I don‘t want to derail this thread, but couldn’t work out how to message you privately. I‘ve been trying to diagnose a flickering issue on my Dell P2721Q since I got it (second-hand) a few months ago. If you’re seeing the same issue on a U2723QE, that’d be very interesting! I’d love a copy of the original version of the screengrab you uploaded, so I can see whether it causes my screen to flicker too. My website and Twitter details are on my profile, if you want to message off-thread.
Update: Turns out this is the flickering issue I’m having: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/m1-air-ghosting-flickering-with-external-display.2271670
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What is the difference in the P3222QE and U3223QE? The Dell comparison tool makes it hard for me to determine.
P3222QE only has 65w power delivery compared with 90w U3223QE.
I'm very disappointed that Dell only put 90w charging in U series - even lower end 1080p monitors get 90w. For us who don't care much about color accuracy but need to work with power hungry laptops, wide color gamut in U series is just a waste of money to have.
P3222QE has fewer ports, 350 cd/m² (vs 400), contrast 1000:1 (vs 2000), 65 W vs 90.
They also call the latter IPS black - in theory, better blacks.
And that is why P... is ~100$ cheaper