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PaulD-UK

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Your backlight cable wiring looks correct.
Your problem looks more like either a screen pcb problem, or something is wrong with the video cable from the T18 to the screen.
 

Aiwi

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Hi all! First of all, great thread! 🥳

I've opened my late 2015 iMac and ordered the R1811 driver board directly from stonetaskin.com. (link)

I am considering replacing its power supply from the R1811 with the Mean Well RSP-150-24 for its ON/OFF control feature, allowing me to use an Arduino (Attiny84) to activate the original Apple button for power switching.

The R1811 driver board I've ordered also has a power button, but I prefer a complete power shut-off for added safety. I'm planning to install a fan, which requires 5 or 12 volts, making the standard 24-volt supply somewhat inconvenient.

My main question is whether I can directly connect a 12-volt supply to the R1811 board, potentially through soldering, as I'd like to avoid using a USB-C connection to my MacBook to mitigate the risk of damage, opting for Display Port 1.4 instead.

I'm considering adding an "OWC Thunderbolt 4 hub" to my setup, but it requires 20 volts at 5.5 amps. Sticking with a 24-volt supply and using a step-down converter to provide 20 volts to the hub separately might be a better option.

With adding the OWC Thunderbolt 4 hub to my setup I can connect to the R1811 using a USB-C to DP 1.4 cable, streamlining the connection to just one cable to my MacBook. Additionally, I plan to connect the original speakers to the hub in the future, allowing me to control the audio from the keyboard as was possible with the original iMac setup.

Essentially, I'm dealing with power supply issues and would appreciate any assistance or guidance. I've been searching a lot and am fairly skilled, but sometimes need help.

Thanks in advance for any help.

P.S., opening my beloved iMac was quite nerve-wracking, but I managed to do it successfully on my own! 😊

//edit;
I'm still contemplating, but for the price of an OWC Thunderbolt 4 hub, I could also purchase a vertical dock for the MacBook. This way, I only need to connect the MacBook to the dock for it to charge, and I can remove the hub from the iMac, simplifying the internal setup. Then, by using a long USB-C to Display Port 1.4 cable, I can connect the R1811, and it's all set.
This way, I also won't have an issue with an additional 20-volt power supply for the hub inside the iMac.

If you want to have the iMac power button to break main power to the r1811 you can get a bi-stable relay.
 

sebko200

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I am thinking on internal vs external power supply: internal MW LRS 200 or simply cut and solder the original Apple cable and use it to get a clean look input for 24V from external power supply. Did somebody tried this?

external power supply:

pro:
+ less heat inside
+ no opening needed in case power supply is failing
+ no hazardous voltage inside of Mac (sure proper insulation and grounding, but it's still metal framing)

con: ?
 

PaulD-UK

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The iMac’s inbuilt power socket has a good anti-electromagnetic radiation filter to prevent any interference exiting the sealed aluminium case via the power cable.
If this is bypassed then the sort of radiation that interferes with Bluetooth peripherals could escape.

Many PSUs only pass EMR certification with such a filter on their supply.

Some Macs are very sensitive to this.
 

kpelckmans

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Jan 18, 2024
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Seems like your display is broken. Did it work before? Check with other inputs.
Yes, it did work... now even when I reconnect the iMac motherboard I still get a bad image...

So this is a word of caution to all who are enthusiastic to save money. I carefully read this thread from the beginning until the end. I settled on bying the T18 from Haijing Cool because I wanted a one cable solution: USB-C video, USB-C upstream data and USB-C PD.

I selected an external 9.2A - 24V power supply from MeanWell GST220A24-R7B since I wanted to have power over USB-C and wanted to keep the heat out of the case.

Did anyone have a bad experience with the T18? Can I somehow check whether they did send me a version suited for LM270QQ1?

What I also notice now is that even when I power off the display, the non-working sections are clearly visible.
 

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ironic138

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Yes, it did work... now even when I reconnect the iMac motherboard I still get a bad image...
I think you got an hardware issue from dissembling the screen. I'm sorry for you :( Did you smell smoke or something like this? Your display was not in this shape (pic 3) before you connected it to the t18?
My T18 isn't working properly, too. I still get these blank screens with backlight on. The support from them aren't helpful yet. I asked for a replacement but haven't got an answer yet. They talked about moving the warehouse and something like this.
Which screen did you use a1, b1, c1? We can check the cables if you are interested. Send me a PM.
 
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sebko200

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The iMac’s inbuilt power socket has a good anti-electromagnetic radiation filter to prevent any interference exiting the sealed aluminium case via the power cable.
If this is bypassed then the sort of radiation that interferes with Bluetooth peripherals could escape.

Many PSUs only pass EMR certification with such a filter on their supply.

Some Macs are very sensitive to this.
My 2017 iMac is still in delivery. You mean the power connection has a filter build in, this will probably block DC current, which means the AC cable can't used without bypassing those.

Ferrite can be attached to DC cable to suppress high frequencies. But this is also valid for USBC and DP cables leaving the iMac casing. Ground shielding needs to be connected with frame. But there will be no BT/Wifi remain in my iMac. Filter Quality of the boards will be a good question.

But I will start with external powering anyway for first tests. And then I try to go in direction of @Aiwi super build, probably without USB Hub and ethernet. I big thank for the Aiwi's blog and all the infos here in this forum.
 
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webhdx

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Jan 16, 2023
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Yes, it did work... now even when I reconnect the iMac motherboard I still get a bad image...

So this is a word of caution to all who are enthusiastic to save money. I carefully read this thread from the beginning until the end. I settled on bying the T18 from Haijing Cool because I wanted a one cable solution: USB-C video, USB-C upstream data and USB-C PD.

I selected an external 9.2A - 24V power supply from MeanWell GST220A24-R7B since I wanted to have power over USB-C and wanted to keep the heat out of the case.

Did anyone have a bad experience with the T18? Can I somehow check whether they did send me a version suited for LM270QQ1?

What I also notice now is that even when I power off the display, the non-working sections are clearly visible.
Are you sure you haven't damaged the flex cables connecting LCD panel to the PCB in the panel assembly? I've fixed similar issue on my screen but the damage was much less severe.
 

tazziassi

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Jan 27, 2024
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I am thinking on internal vs external power supply: internal MW LRS 200 or simply cut and solder the original Apple cable and use it to get a clean look input for 24V from external power supply. Did somebody tried this?

external power supply:

pro:
+ less heat inside
+ no opening needed in case power supply is failing
+ no hazardous voltage inside of Mac (sure proper insulation and grounding, but it's still metal framing)

con: ?
Aesthetics. The only reason I’m not simply buying a 4k monitor from Amazon and going on this journey
 

PaulD-UK

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"Aesthetics. The only reason I’m not simply buying a 4k monitor..."

I haven't looked at the back of my DIY monitor for months.
I look at the screen for hours at at time.
Many hours a day if I'm involved in a project.

The 5K excellence of this screen - sharpness, colour fidelity, pixel-invisibility - is, for me, what makes "going on this journey" worthwhile.🙂
 

fhall1

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I am thinking on internal vs external power supply: internal MW LRS 200 or simply cut and solder the original Apple cable and use it to get a clean look input for 24V from external power supply. Did somebody tried this?

external power supply:

pro:
+ less heat inside
+ no opening needed in case power supply is failing
+ no hazardous voltage inside of Mac (sure proper insulation and grounding, but it's still metal framing)

con: ?
I went the external route - mainly for your second pro (not having to open the panel again).
 

fhall1

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Yes, it did work... now even when I reconnect the iMac motherboard I still get a bad image...

So this is a word of caution to all who are enthusiastic to save money. I carefully read this thread from the beginning until the end. I settled on bying the T18 from Haijing Cool because I wanted a one cable solution: USB-C video, USB-C upstream data and USB-C PD.

I selected an external 9.2A - 24V power supply from MeanWell GST220A24-R7B since I wanted to have power over USB-C and wanted to keep the heat out of the case.

Did anyone have a bad experience with the T18? Can I somehow check whether they did send me a version suited for LM270QQ1?

What I also notice now is that even when I power off the display, the non-working sections are clearly visible.
My T18 has been running 4 to 8 hours a day for two months now with no issues at all. It certainly seems like you got sent the wrong connectors for your panel...or some of those very thin wires got kinked or twisted and broken internally, but didn't break through the insulation.
 
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boulala

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Hi All, thank you for the amazing resources throughout this thread!! You gave me inspiration to repurpose a late 2015 27in iMac that I found abandoned at the recycling center and bring it to life with cheapest board I could find in this thread -- the JRY-W9CUHD-AA1 from stonetaskin.com. The quick and dirty conversion took less than an hour, but it took a few weeks before I finally got the courage to apply adhesive strips to the LCD panel. I was concerned about heat from what I've read on here and other reviews on aliexpress for this board, but after taking temps of the board with "Start Screen Saver when inactive" and "Turn display off when inactive" settings disabled for a few weeks, I had enough comfort to finalize the build. Max avg temp was 129F -- board enclosed, stock heatsink, and no active cooling.

I re-used the existing iMac speakers, and re-wired the panel control buttons to a simple 5D rocker button that I hot-glued to the ethernet port and re-purposed the existing power button. I mounted the board so that the heatsink was close to existing vents, and routed the wires through the power connector slot which was conveniently sized for a 1-1/2 rubber grommet. I popped off the existing aluminum standoffs with pliers and re-used them to mound the board with double-sided 3M adhesive tape.

The setup easily runs 5k 60hz connected to an m2 Mac mini and PC wired via cheapo 8k kvm switch. Links to parts and pics below:

Grommet kit: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CYSNDWP
5D rocker buttons: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XB2245Q
Beefed up 24v 6A Power supply (just in case): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083K71SM8
Cheapo adhesive strips: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09TDKW6RB
KVM switch for PC to Mac Mini setup (had to plug keyboard and mouse to printer port via USB hub to prevent sleep/wake issues): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGHQWLJQ
USB-C to Displayport cable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CB821BL2
Speaker frequency dividers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1JDBWJG
LCD driver board: https://stonetaskin.com/products/st...r-display-screen-dp1-5?variant=43939337797786
Hi together
I'm also on the edge to build my own 5k iMac Display. I already purchased a quasi empty 27" 2015 iMac and the corresponding display.
As I want to build the whole setup very price conscious and retain the stock look as much as possible without altering the case/shell I haven't ordered all the parts to finish the project.
@Tiberian7 : Your setup looks really clean and nice and i got inspired by your 5D controller. Could you explain the wiring a little bit more and could you map all functions from the original controller board to the new rocker button?
Thanks for all the cool inspirations in this forum and i'm excited to share my own build-up
 
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daczia

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Feb 27, 2024
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Hello everyone,

I'm about to start converting my 2014 iMac and now I need to pick the board. What's the difference between those two pieces?


I'm wondering what causes so big price difference.
Thanks
 

PaulD-UK

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"I'm wondering what causes so big price difference."

The JRY-W9CUHD-AA1 has an older, less sophisticated video driver chip, and can only drive the monitor screen at 8-bit colour depth - millions of colours.
Its onboard audio amp is only 2 watts/channel, which is probably not really powerful enough.
It is a fairly new board, and there are no reports of its long-term reliability yet.

The R1811 is a more featured board which does 10-bit colour resolution - billions of colours - and has recently born upgraded to an HDMI v2.1 option, to allow 5K over HDMI.
The onboard audio is very usable with the original iMac speakers if you fit a pair of crossover unit.
It also has an I/R remote control, with which to operated the board remotely, which I find very convenient.

The R1811 (with its predecessor the R9A18) have been sold since 2018/19, and there are no problems with their long-term use - as long as they don't get very overheated.

The power supply which it comes with is a low price product, and may not be the best thing to use in a sealed-box iMac conversion. I used a better one in my R1811 conversion.

 
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Izzie24

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Feb 24, 2024
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Can i power the R1811 with 12 volt directly to the print? 🤔
I do NOT use the power delivery of the USB-C. This port remains unconnected. I connect my MacBook with the DisplayPort.

How many amps do i need at 12 volt?
 

daczia

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Feb 27, 2024
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"I'm wondering what causes so big price difference."

The JRY-W9CUHD-AA1 has an older, less sophisticated video driver chip, and can only drive the monitor screen at 8-bit colour depth - millions of colours.
It is a fairly new board, and there are no reports of its long-term reliability yet.

The R1811 is a more featured board which does 10-bit colour resolution - billions of colours - and has recently born upgraded to an HDMI v2.1 option, to allow 5K over HDMI.
It also has can I/R remote control, with which to operated the board remotely, which I find very convenient.

The R1811 (with its predecessor the R9A18) have been sold since 2018/19, and there are no problems with their long-term use - as long as they don't get very overheated.

The power supply which it comes with is a low price product, and may not be the best thing to use in a sealed-box iMac conversion. I used a better one in my R1811 conversion.
Thank you for such a broad explanation. R1811 will be more future-proof, I guess. I'll stick with that choice.
 
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PaulD-UK

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"Can i power the R1811 with 12 volt directly..."

The R1811 is a 24v board, although it seems to work at 19v perfectly well.
The R9A18, and the T18 or T19 boards are able to run at 12v.
 
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Izzie24

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Feb 24, 2024
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"Can i power the R1811 with 12 volt directly..."

The R1811 is a 24v board, although it seems to work at 19v perfectly well.
The R9A18, and the T18 or T19 boards are able to run at 12v.
Isn't it true that the components on the board run on 5 or 12 volts and 24 volts are needed purely for the power delivery for the USB-C port?
I don't know enough about these kinds of things myself, so that's why I'm asking.
Otherwise I will have to install both a 24 volt and a 12 volt power supply for the fan, for example. Or a stepdown converter from 24 to 12 volts.
 

Regulus67

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I was just preparing to answer a question written in german about using the DIY 5k display with an iMac Pro, but it has been removed.

In any case.
As I just tested connecting the DIY to the iMac Pro. I will post the result here. In case anyone should wonder how it works. :)
The desktop background image does not have the same size. But the app windows seems to be the same size.
The R1811 reports the resolution at 3840 x2160 @ 60Hz


edit: Most likely the DisplayPort versions causing this on the iMac Pro. DP 1.2?
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PaulD-UK

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@Izzie24
One user reported that his R1811 monitor went black if he used too weak a power supply so too low a voltage does not seem to work.

Another builder earlier in this thread (@webhdx) got 12v for a fan from the board connecting to the long white socket next to the video out plug.

The pictures of the R1811 v3 board show the fan being powered this way, but the previous user used different pins on the long socket.
Your board may have the 12v pins labelled on the underside.

EDIT: Link to his full description.
Quote: "I use 12V output to power PWM controller for iMac fan. I haven't noticed any issues powering it this way, even though the fan running at 100% speed draws considerable amount of current. Fortunately it only ramps up when you connect a laptop to charge it via USB-C. I use Mac Studio with the display so the display runs cool and quiet."
 
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Izzie24

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@Izzie24
One user reported that his R1811 monitor went black if he used too weak a power supply so too low a voltage does not seem to work.

Another builder earliest in this thread got 12v for a fan from the board connecting to the long white socket next to the video out plug.

The pictures of the R1811 v3 board show the fan being powered this way.
Thanks! Then i will read this complete thread again and keep my eyes wide open. But for the safety i can use the best some Mean Well 24 volt power supply. 😃
 
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