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When will iPad Pros get any kind of upgrades?

  • By the end of 2019, like last year’s October announcment

    Votes: 102 29.1%
  • Early 2020

    Votes: 128 36.6%
  • Mid 2020

    Votes: 71 20.3%
  • Late 2020

    Votes: 49 14.0%

  • Total voters
    350
30 dots per inch=30 pixels per inch. I really should have just written 30 ppi. Pixel pitch is 0.84mm, subpixel pitch 0.28mm.


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http://xqdoc.imedao.com/16184d36f5150de13fd3f231.pdf (page 49)

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Thanks much!
 
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Macworld has a pretty good summary of the iPad Pro 2020 rumours.


My own updated belief:

- 2020 Q1, similar pricing tiers.
- Same form factor but with new ToF camera setup, necessitating a new Smart Keyboard Folio update. ie. Camera bump will remain and get significantly bigger.
- 64 GB option gone. Starts at 128 GB.
- A13X, with 20%+ CPU boost and even more GPU boost
- No mini-LED. That will come in 2021 (not late 2020). No Micro-LED. No OLED.
- Same screen sizes. No bigger screens.
- 6 GB RAM for all models, although I won’t rule out the possibility of a top tier 8 GB model.
- I’m betting it will be LTE, but hold out hope it will be 5G, since a bunch of 5G products have already been announced for release this quarter, and they utilize the 2nd generation 7 nm Qualcomm low power 5G chipset. So, the tech is already here. Furthermore, Apple kissed and made up with Qualcomm year ago with a deal to the tune of $4.5 billion, precisely to secure these 2nd gen X55 5G chips.
 
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Macworld has a pretty good summary of the iPad Pro 2020 rumours.


My own updated belief:

- 2020 Q1, similar pricing tiers.
- Same form factor but with new ToF camera setup, necessitating a new Smart Keyboard Folio update. ie. Camera bump will remain and get significantly bigger.
- 64 GB option gone. Starts at 128 GB.
- A13X, with 20%+ CPU boost and even more GPU boost
- No mini-LED. That will come in 2021 (not late 2020). No Micro-LED. No OLED.
- Same screen sizes. No bigger screens.
- 6 GB RAM for all models, although I won’t rule out the possibility of a top tier 8 GB model.
- I’m betting it will be LTE, but hold out hope it will be 5G, since a bunch of 5G products have already been announced for release this quarter, and they utilize the 2nd generation 7 nm Qualcomm low power 5G chipset. So, the tech is already here. Furthermore, Apple kissed and made up with Qualcomm year ago with a deal to the tune of $4.5 billion, precisely to secure these 2nd gen X55 5G chips.
The only problem with the Macworld article is that, while it relies heavily on Kuo’s forecasts, they’re using only the earlier ones from October and November. Kuo actually updated his predictions for iPad Pro in December.

His latest expectations for iPad Pro is 3Q2020, with A14X and mini-LED (at least for the 12.9”). A10X was on TSMC’s 10nm process, A12X on 7nm, and A14X will be on 5nm. I see no reason Apple would want another 7nm part (A13X), and though it would be on the optimized N7P node, it wouldn't be significantly faster than the A12X. A14 is scheduled to begin production shortly.

Also, Qualcomm already said getting 5G ready for fall is going to be a difficult; there is zero chance of a 5G iPad Pro this quarter.

I can’t imagine Apple releasing a marginally faster A13X with 4G LTE, the same display and running iPadOS 13 this quarter when the could wait six months and give us a significantly faster A14X, 5G, mini-LED backlit device.

Considering that whatever they release is what they’ll have for 2020 and 2021, I think the fall device is worth waiting for. Even if someone really wants to buy an iPad Pro ASAP, the device Kuo is expecting is a much better device than Apple would be able to release this quarter.

If Apple does release an A13X iPad Pro, I’ll skip it and buy a used or discounted 2018 model. I’d rather wait for the 5th gen devices next year, as I plan on keeping it for four or five years before passing it down.
 
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Macworld has a pretty good summary of the iPad Pro 2020 rumours.


My own updated belief:

- 2020 Q1, similar pricing tiers.
- Same form factor but with new ToF camera setup, necessitating a new Smart Keyboard Folio update. ie. Camera bump will remain and get significantly bigger.
- 64 GB option gone. Starts at 128 GB.
- A13X, with 20%+ CPU boost and even more GPU boost
- No mini-LED. That will come in 2021 (not late 2020). No Micro-LED. No OLED.
- Same screen sizes. No bigger screens.
- 6 GB RAM for all models, although I won’t rule out the possibility of a top tier 8 GB model.
- I’m betting it will be LTE, but hold out hope it will be 5G, since a bunch of 5G products have already been announced for release this quarter, and they utilize the 2nd generation 7 nm Qualcomm low power 5G chipset. So, the tech is already here. Furthermore, Apple kissed and made up with Qualcomm year ago with a deal to the tune of $4.5 billion, precisely to secure these 2nd gen X55 5G chips.
Completely agree with this
 
The only problem with the Macworld article is that, while it relies heavily on Kuo’s forecasts, they’re using only the earlier ones from October and November. Kuo actually updated his predictions for iPad Pro in December.
I think they are using Kuo's forecasts selectively, like myself. In any case, Kuo didn't actually say the early 2020 iPad Pros aren't coming. With his later forecast, he just ignored that, and suggested a specific higher end model would come later in 2020. He didn't say ALL of the models are coming later 2020. I don't quite know how to piece all those bits of information together, and for the time being my favoured prediction is that there will be something coming in a couple of months.

Also, Qualcomm already said getting 5G ready for fall is going to be a difficult; there is zero chance of a 5G iPad Pro this quarter.
Link? A bunch of different products from multiple different companies were already announced at CES last week, for release in a couple of months, which sport 2nd generation low power 5G in the form of the 7 nm Qualcomm X55 chipset. (Qualcomm 5G already was available last year, but in a higher power form that Apple didn't want.)

I can’t imagine Apple releasing a marginally faster A13X with 4G LTE, the same display and running iPadOS 13 this quarter when the could wait six months and give us a significantly faster A14X, 5G, mini-LED backlit device.
Well, as mentioned, I'm guessing mini-LED for 2021. I'm thinking perhaps a mini-LED iPad Pro could begin production at the end of 2020 though.

If Apple does release an A13X iPad Pro, I’ll skip it and buy a used or discounted 2018 model. I’d rather wait for the 5th gen devices next year, as I plan on keeping it for four or five years before passing it down.
It depends on the pricing. If the 64 GB / 4 GB 2018 model is only US$200 less than than a 128 GB / 6 GB 2020 model, there is no chance in hell I'd buy the 2018 model, esp. since I wouldn't buy another 64 GB model anyway. I'd have to get the 256 GB model, and if the 256 GB 2018 model were similarly priced or even $100 cheaper than the 128 GB 2020 model, I'd buy the latter in a heartbeat given the choice between the two.

That said, if none are 5G, I may reconsider. Not that I really need 5G but I can wait even longer if necessary since I have a 2017 iPad Pro. It's just I have a whole bunch of money in my Apple Store account waiting to be spent. :)
 
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I think they are using Kuo's forecasts selectively, like myself. In any case, Kuo didn't actually say the early 2020 iPad Pros aren't coming. With his later forecast, he just ignored that, and suggested a specific higher end model would come later in 2020. He didn't say ALL of the models are coming later 2020. I don't quite know how to piece all those bits of information together, and for the time being my favoured prediction is that there will be something coming in a couple of months.
It actually seems the Macworld article was written prior to (or without knowledge of) Kuo’s December predictions. They are ignored completely, for no apparent reason.

re: his previous forecast of 1H2020, that could have meant as late as June, and his new estimate of Q3 could be as early as July. Kuo often updates his forecasts with superseding information, and rarely if ever retracts previous research notes; he just ignores them. So if you’re trying to derive meaning from his failure to address his previous 1H2020 schedule forecast, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.

What happens is that as the projected date draws nearer, his excellent supply chain sources allow him to refine his estimate of Apple’s release schedule, based on the supplier’s known shipping schedule.

In any case, Kuo never said Q1, and we (via Kuo) would already know if there was something in the next couple months. The likelihood of an 11” iPad Pro with an A13X in 1H2020 followed by the 3Q2020 12.9” iPad Pro with A14X (Kuo’s current forecast) is zero. If he’s right about an A14X release in Q3, then there is no A13X.
Link? A bunch of different products from multiple different companies were already announced at CES last week, for release in a couple of months, which sport 2nd generation low power 5G in the form of the 7 nm Qualcomm X55 chipset. (Qualcomm 5G already was available last year, but in a higher power form that Apple didn't want.)
Those announced products will be using Qualcomm’s RF front end solution, but Apple uses another supplier. Here’s what the President of Qualcomm said last month:

“We re-engaged probably later than both of us would like, and I think we've been working together to try to get as much as possible done, and take as much possible advantage of what they've done before so that we can actually launch a phone on schedule with 5G," Amon said.”​


Agreed Apple was never interested in the first gen discrete 5G battery-burner chip, or else they would have done the Qualcomm deal a year earlier than they did. Apple always had their eye on the integrated 4G/5G part.

Well, as mentioned, I'm guessing mini-LED for 2021. I'm thinking perhaps a mini-LED iPad Pro could begin production at the end of 2020 though.
Ok but Kuo updated his timeline to 3Q2020 for at least the 12.9” Pro with the mini-LED backlit display; he hasn’t mentioned the 11” wrt mini-LED iirc so maybe the 11” Pro doesn’t get it. Kuo’s predictions are more reliable than guessing—usually 🤣

It depends on the pricing. If the 64 GB / 4 GB 2018 model is only US$200 less than than a 128 GB / 6 GB 2020 model, there is no chance in hell I'd buy the 2018 model, esp. since I wouldn't buy another 64 GB model anyway. I'd have to get the 256 GB model, and if the 256 GB 2018 model were similarly priced or even $100 cheaper than the 128 GB 2020 model, I'd buy the latter in a heartbeat given the choice between the two.

There are all kinds of permutations with varying values that can be contemplated, but I hold on to my devices for quite awhile and I’m not willing to take an A13X device into 2024/2025. If they do release an A13X this year, that will imply an approximate 18 month iPad cycle. In that case I’ll wait until fall 2021 for an A15X, which should be fine until 2026/2027.

That said, if none are 5G, I may reconsider. Not that I really need 5G but I can wait even longer if necessary since I have a 2017 iPad Pro. It's just I have a whole bunch of money in my Apple Store account waiting to be spent. :)
Based on what Amon said, I can’t imagine 5G coming to iPad before iPhone; iPhone is a higher priority by an order of magnitude, and that means fall. Possibly even slipping into November like the iPhone X, from what’s been said.

It’s tough to wait, especially when you’ve got the money earmarked and just sitting there :) But the iPad Pro Kuo predicts for fall is a much more attractive product than one that could be released before then. For that reason, I hope it is a fall product. Selfishly, it would be better for me, and I’m okay with your having to wait 😂 😬 😇
 
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re: his previous forecast of 1H2020, that could have meant as late as June, and his new estimate of Q3 could be as early as July. Kuo often updates his forecasts with superseding information, and rarely if ever retracts previous research notes; he just ignores them. So if you’re trying to derive meaning from his failure to address his previous 1H2020 schedule forecast, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.

What happens is that as the projected date draws nearer, his excellent supply chain sources allow him to refine his estimate of Apple’s release schedule, based on the supplier’s known shipping schedule.

In any case, Kuo never said Q1, and we (via Kuo) would already know if there was something in the next couple months. The likelihood of an 11” iPad Pro with an A13X in 1H2020 followed by the 3Q2020 12.9” iPad Pro with A14X (Kuo’s current forecast) is zero. If he’s right about an A14X release in Q3, then there is no A13X.
Actually, Kuo specifically stated iPad Pro manufacturing Q4 2019 to Q1 2020. Of course, that could have translated to early Q2 release, which then got delayed.

Those announced products will be using Qualcomm’s RF front end solution, but Apple uses another supplier. Here’s what the President of Qualcomm said last month:

“We re-engaged probably later than both of us would like, and I think we've been working together to try to get as much as possible done, and take as much possible advantage of what they've done before so that we can actually launch a phone on schedule with 5G," Amon said.”​

It sounds like they are on track for 5G iPhones. But I agree that doesn’t bode well for an early iPad Pro release with 5G. However, my prediction for the 2020 H1 iPad Pro was with LTE anyway. OTOH, this would be a good reason to delay the iPad Pro.

There are all kinds of permutations with varying values that can be contemplated, but I hold on to my devices for quite awhile and I’m not willing to take an A13X device into 2024/2025. If they do release an A13X this year, that will imply an approximate 18 month iPad cycle. In that case I’ll wait until fall 2021 for an A15X, which should be fine until 2026/2027.
IMHO, the SoC is the least interesting part of this discussion. I personally don’t care either way. It’s everything else. With a hypothetical A13X providing a 20-30% performance boost over A12X, that would be sufficient to satisfy most customers, esp. if it got other stuff like a RAM upgrade and more base storage.
 
The only problem with the Macworld article is that, while it relies heavily on Kuo’s forecasts, they’re using only the earlier ones from October and November. Kuo actually updated his predictions for iPad Pro in December.
Thanks for pointing that out, i somehow missed out on that update. An A14X and mini LED screen in late 2020 somehow sounds right to me.

So there could be a place for an iPad Air 4 in the 2020 lineup after all.
They could go with Mini LED Display, A14X, triple camera, quad speakers and 6GB RAM for the iPad Pro. That would leave a place in the lineup for iPad Air 4 with „normal“ Display, FaceID, all Screen Design, A13, single camera, wide stereo speakers and 4GB of RAM.
 
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Actually, Kuo specifically stated iPad Pro manufacturing Q4 2019 to Q1 2020. Of course, that could have translated to early Q2 release, which then got delayed.


It sounds like they are on track for 5G iPhones. But I agree that doesn’t bode well for an early iPad Pro release with 5G. However, my prediction for the 2020 H1 iPad Pro was with LTE anyway. OTOH, this would be a good reason to delay the iPad Pro.


IMHO, the SoC is the least interesting part of this discussion. I personally don’t care either way. It’s everything else. With a hypothetical A13X providing a 20-30% performance boost over A12X, that would be sufficient to satisfy most customers, esp. if it got other stuff like a RAM upgrade and more base storage.
Not unusually, Kuo is a moving target. He’s gone from 4Q19/1Q20 to 1H20 to 3Q20 and maybe some steps in between lol. Time will tell...

re: A14X, faster is always nice but the move to 5nm should result in power savings as well. Apple’s also refined their power management techniques quite a bit lately, with a more fine-grained capability to shut down unused areas of the SoC.

I do think we’ll see 6GB of RAM, but I’m less sure about a 128GB entry level model. There’s going to be cost pressures due to the ToF sensor and the mini-LED display (assuming rumors are accurate) and I’m sure Apple wants to retain the $999 price point.

Kuo should have some info coming out about RAM and storage sizes at some point, but his pricing guesses, if he makes any, are usually best ignored imo since he has no inside sources in Cupertino afaict.

2020 is shaping up as an expensive year for me since I’ll probably replace my 6S this fall 💸
 
They could go with Mini LED Display, A14X, triple camera, quad speakers and 6GB RAM for the iPad Pro. That would leave a place in the lineup for iPad Air 4 with „normal“ Display, FaceID, all Screen Design, A13, single camera, wide stereo speakers and 4GB of RAM. The 10.2 iPad has 3 GB RAM, so having 4GB in the mid tier Air somehow makes sense for me.
Not sure about a fall release for the Air. With its A12, the Air 3 can hold out until, say, spring 2021. Maybe an 8th gen iPad announced at the same time (A11/3GB).

But who knows, they could also conceivably do an all-iPad event this October and update all the iPads (except maybe the mini 5).

4GB is a lock but I really don’t expect FaceID/all-screen design. That would require a new display and likely a slightly different body. The $499 price point for the Air is important, and it seems like it would be tough to maintain that if they rev the design and add the expense of FaceID. There’s also the issue of cannibalization; the all screen design is a differentiator, as is FaceID. The more features that migrate down to the Air, the less reason there is to buy the Pro.

Maybe the Air will pick up the new design language and FaceID for the Air 5 instead? Just a guess on my part, who knows :)
 
I do think we’ll see 6GB of RAM, but I’m less sure about a 128GB entry level model. There’s going to be cost pressures due to the ToF sensor and the mini-LED display (assuming rumors are accurate) and I’m sure Apple wants to retain the $999 price point.
I smell a (20% to 30%) price increase for the 2020 iPad Pro, that would also leave some headroom for a price increase of an imagined all screen iPad Air 4. I could think of a three tiered approach: iPad (Base), iPad Air (Better) and iPad Pro (Best) somehow like with iPhones (iPhone 8, XR, 11, 11 Pro)

But either way, i think i’m good with my current collection of iPad‘s for the time being. 🙂
 
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I smell a (20% to 30%) price increase for the 2020 iPad Pro, that would also leave some headroom for a price increase of an imagined all screen iPad Air 4. But either way, i think i’m good with my current collection of iPad‘s. 🙂
I really don’t expect that kind of increase, though the cellular model may very well increase from the +$130 price it’s been for many, many years (180?).

The ToF sensor isn’t such a big deal imo, at least wrt to the value proposition, and the screen is already so good, what does mini-LED backlighting really get you? Yeah it’s rumored to be getting the triple camera which is quite an upgrade, but many rarely/never use the iPad camera; they use their iPhone’s instead 🤷‍♂️

So I’m skeptical that those features could sustain a $200-300 price increase. But I said the same thing about the 2018 Pro and I was dead wrong. The new screen/FaceID is already priced in though, and even (at least partially) amortized by now.

I’d be disappointed to see the $999 price point go away, both as an investor and a buyer of the 2020, but it really depends on the BOM cost more than anything. NAND has dropped markedly since 2018 so that will help. But Apple is loathe to give away margin, so... well, we’ll see what happens.
 
Since nobody has posted it yet:


No dates, but I do like their comment about the iPad 3rd generation. :)

Apple is developing a 5G-enabled iPad with mmWave support, according to sources cited by industry publication DigiTimes.

A paywalled preview of the report claims Taiwan's Advanced Semiconductor Engineering will supply antenna-in-package technology for the 5G iPad, in addition to 5G iPhones. While not specified, it is almost certain that this model would be an iPad Pro given 5G is a high-end feature with higher production costs.

While the first 5G iPhones are expected in fall 2020, the report does not indicate when the 5G iPad would be released. Major new features often come to the iPhone before the iPad, but a notable exception was the third-generation iPad receiving LTE support in March 2012, prior to the iPhone 5 in September 2012.


Thanks for pointing that out, i somehow missed out on that update. An A14X and mini LED screen in late 2020 somehow sounds right.

Link to AppleInsider

So there could be a place for an iPad Air 4 in the 2020 lineup after all.
I would be quite surprised if Apple releases an iPad Air 4 in 2020. I don’t see a new 10.2” iPad in 2020 either.
 
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I am late to this thread but I need to buy a 12.9" in the next month or so, how likely does everyone think that a new version will come out by end of March or so? and will it be that different than the current 3rd GEN? Best Buy is having some good deals right now on the 12.9".....
 
I am late to this thread but I need to buy a 12.9" in the next month or so, how likely does everyone think that a new version will come out by end of March or so? and will it be that different than the current 3rd GEN? Best Buy is having some good deals right now on the 12.9".....
Whether to buy now or not depends a lot on how strong your need is now and how good the deals are. For example for me, the need is not high since I already have a second gen iPad Pro, and the deals suck here in Canada. So I'm going to wait. It sounds like you're in quite a different scenario, so it may make more sense for you to buy. Or not. ;)

Some of us think there is a reasonably strong chance of a Q1 release, whereas others that is unlikely, and it's more likely to be closer to the end of 2020. Pretty much all of us think there will be a release some time in 2020 though.
 
Whether to buy now or not depends a lot on how strong your need is now and how good the deals are. For example for me, the need is not high since I already have a second gen iPad Pro, and the deals suck here in Canada. So I'm going to wait. It sounds like you're in quite a different scenario, so it may make more sense for you to buy. Or not. ;)

Some of us think there is a reasonably strong chance of a Q1 release, whereas others that is unlikely, and it's more likely to be closer to the end of 2020. Pretty much all of us think there will be a release some time in 2020 though.
yeah its a touch choice! who knows how long it will be I had to wait forever for the 16" MBP!
 
yeah its a touch choice! who knows how long it will be I had to wait forever for the 16" MBP!
It is tough, especially since the new 12.9” is shaping up to be quite a nice upgrade to the current model. Re: timing, the best source is usually Ming Chi Kuo, although it’s no guarantee. His current forecast—it’s slipped about three quarters since the initial prediction he published back in February 2019—is 3Q2020. (Personally I wouldn’t be surprised at October or November, but Kuo says July-Sept.)

There are some sources saying Q1, which Kuo had previously predicted as well, and even he hasn’t been explicitly withdrawn that earlier rumor. But as I mentioned, Kuo’s latest prediction, at least for the 12.9” Pro, is 3Q2020.

Upgrades (Kuo rumor) include mini-LED backlit display, A14X processor and 5G. Many here expect an increase in RAM from 4—>6 GB. Maybe an upgrade from 64—>128 GB for the entry level storage as well; it seems due. Quite possibly a price increase as a result of all the upgrades.

 
It is tough, especially since the new 12.9” is shaping up to be quite a nice upgrade to the current model. Re: timing, the best source is usually Ming Chi Kuo, although it’s no guarantee. His current forecast—it’s slipped about three quarters since the initial prediction he published back in February 2019—is 3Q2020. (Personally I wouldn’t be surprised at October or November, but Kuo says July-Sept.)

There are some sources saying Q1, which Kuo had previously predicted as well, and even he hasn’t been explicitly withdrawn that earlier rumor. But as I mentioned, Kuo’s latest prediction, at least for the 12.9” Pro, is 3Q2020.

Upgrades (Kuo rumor) include mini-LED backlit display, A14X processor and 5G. Many here expect an increase in RAM from 4—>6 GB. Maybe an upgrade from 64—>128 GB for the entry level storage as well; it seems due. Quite possibly a price increase as a result of all the upgrades.

Thanks very helpful, is it likely the 11" or similar would come first then another quarter or so the 12.9? or both together?
 
Thanks very helpful, is it likely the 11" or similar would come first then another quarter or so the 12.9? or both together?
That seems open for interpretation. Apple did do a staggered release of the first gen Pros, but the last two releases in 2017 and 2018 were simultaneous. Kuo only mentions the 12.9” for Q3, but that was in the context of the future rollout of mini-LED displays, and it’s possible he didn’t mention the 11” because only the 12.9 is getting the upgraded display.

But my guess is another simultaneous release. With Kuo now predicting an A14X in the 12.9” in Q3, that all but eliminates the possibility an A13X exists. The 2nd gen pros (2017) used A10X, the 3rd gen (2018) A12X.

If there’s an A14X this fall, that implies there is no A13X, just as there was no A11X. (7nm parts are tremendously expensive to bring to market—as in the hundreds of millions to billions range. Apple definitely doesn’t need an “X“ variant every year.) The current 11” has A12X, so if there’s no A13X, there’s no upgrade available for the 11” unless they used the straight A13... which there’s no reason to do. Apple’s not desperate to release a new 11”, the current one is pretty awesome.

In any case, that all presumes Kuo’s info is accurate. He could be off base, and Apple could release both iPads in March, with an A13X no one knows about 😂

(But since an A14X would be fabricated on TSMC’s new 5nm process node, it would seem Apple would find it worth the wait to get a part will use significantly less power. (A10X was fabbed on 10nm, A12X on 7nm.) Battery life is a big deal for iPad.)
 
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IMHO, the SoC is the least interesting part of this discussion. I personally don’t care either way. It’s everything else. With a hypothetical A13X providing a 20-30% performance boost over A12X, that would be sufficient to satisfy most customers, esp. if it got other stuff like a RAM upgrade and more base storage.
I'd like to add that we can most certainly expect more battery life as well with an A13X chip. The 2019's iPhones were a grand example for that - maybe there's room for longer usage time on iPads as well. If Apple really skips that generation and goes straight to an A14X chip in 5nm ... I guess it could be worth the wait.
 
What I hope is A14x, 6gb of ram and 15 hours of battery life. Normal iPad will get 4gb of ram and the A12 at the end of the year and iPad Air will get the normal A14 and 4gb of ram.
 
What I hope is A14x, 6gb of ram and 15 hours of battery life. Normal iPad will get 4gb of ram and the A12 at the end of the year and iPad Air will get the normal A14 and 4gb of ram.
Just curious: What do you need 6 GB RAM for?
 
So the basic gist is, if you can hold out until at least March, do so and wait for any potential announcements then yes?

I'm looking to upgrade from my 9.7" Pro to the 11" model and if I'm being honest, the current models would be more than enough for my needs but if a new gen is going to be announced in the next month/6 weeks then I'd probably prefer to hold out and get the newer version just so that I'm good for updates for another 3-4 years.
 
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