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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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The Verge review for the iPhone 8 is up. And it basically says what I've been recently saying: they're the best iteration of the iPhone 6 design language. The final form of that three year old design is finally corrected in the iPhone 8, and in beautiful fashion.
When we look back, the iPhone 6-7 generations will be seen as the years when Apple lost its design lead, among other things.
IPHONE 8 AND 8 PLUS REVIEW: THE DEFAULT OPTION
VERGE SCORE: 8
iPhone 8
GOOD STUFF
iPhone 8 Plus:
GOOD STUFF
Thought this was particularly interesting:
Like Samsung, iPhone images are now more saturated by default, although Apple says it’s still aiming for realism instead of the saturated colors and smoothing of the S8.
If that's the case, it's further evidence Apple is adapting for an OLED future.
When we look back, the iPhone 6-7 generations will be seen as the years when Apple lost its design lead, among other things.
IPHONE 8 AND 8 PLUS REVIEW: THE DEFAULT OPTION
VERGE SCORE: 8
iPhone 8
GOOD STUFF
- Fast new processor
- Wireless charging is nice
- Excellent camera
- iOS 11 is great
- Design falling behind other flagships
- $50 more than the iPhone 7
- Lacks exciting notch controversy
iPhone 8 Plus:
GOOD STUFF
- Fast new processor
- Wireless charging is nice
- Excellent camera
- iOS 11 is great
- Surfboard design getting very dated
- $50 more the the iPhone 7 Plus
- Top-end model only $50 cheaper than the iPhone X
Thought this was particularly interesting:
Like Samsung, iPhone images are now more saturated by default, although Apple says it’s still aiming for realism instead of the saturated colors and smoothing of the S8.
If that's the case, it's further evidence Apple is adapting for an OLED future.
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My thoughts exactly from that review.
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After spending a week with the 8, I can’t think of a single compelling reason to upgrade from an iPhone 7. The 7 is still extremely fast, offers virtually the same design in a lighter package with a bigger battery, and will get almost every feature of the 8 with iOS 11. If you really want Qi wireless charging, you can get a slim $15 case that supports it. And if you’re dying for Portrait Lighting, there are tons of photo apps in the App Store that offer similar effects. Of course, if you're upgrading from anything older than an iPhone 7, the improvements in the camera and the overall speed of the phone are going to really impress you.
Apple’s line is now more segmented than before, with models at every price point between the $349 iPhone SE to the $1,125 256GB iPhone X, and the iPhone 8 sits near the top of that range. Prices are actually $50 more than the 7 was last year, with the 64GB iPhone 8 going for $699 and the 64GB iPhone 8 Plus going for $799. The decision between the 256GB iPhone 8 Plus at $949 and the 64GB iPhone X at $999 seems particularly challenging: do you value Apple’s best and newest design, or raw storage capacity? I know my answer, and it doesn’t look like another version of a phone I bought in 2014.'
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After spending a week with the 8, I can’t think of a single compelling reason to upgrade from an iPhone 7. The 7 is still extremely fast, offers virtually the same design in a lighter package with a bigger battery, and will get almost every feature of the 8 with iOS 11. If you really want Qi wireless charging, you can get a slim $15 case that supports it. And if you’re dying for Portrait Lighting, there are tons of photo apps in the App Store that offer similar effects. Of course, if you're upgrading from anything older than an iPhone 7, the improvements in the camera and the overall speed of the phone are going to really impress you.
Apple’s line is now more segmented than before, with models at every price point between the $349 iPhone SE to the $1,125 256GB iPhone X, and the iPhone 8 sits near the top of that range. Prices are actually $50 more than the 7 was last year, with the 64GB iPhone 8 going for $699 and the 64GB iPhone 8 Plus going for $799. The decision between the 256GB iPhone 8 Plus at $949 and the 64GB iPhone X at $999 seems particularly challenging: do you value Apple’s best and newest design, or raw storage capacity? I know my answer, and it doesn’t look like another version of a phone I bought in 2014.'
From The Wire on wireless charging:
David Pierce:
Wireless charging makes the iPhone feel less like a Tamagotchi needing constant feeding, and more like a digital sidekick that’s always ready to go. Pick it up when you need it, put it down when you don’t; whenever you’re not using your phone, it’s charging. Android users have known this feeling for years, but a lot of iPhone users are going to love it now.
Yup. Not only will people begin walking back the stupid comments made about wireless charging over the years, they're going to come to actually enjoy it and appreciate it.
And as the Verge pointed out, this will mean more wireless charging pads in the wild. So that's good for us who've already made these arguments in the past.
Apple catching up. These days, that's the big deal.
David Pierce:
Wireless charging makes the iPhone feel less like a Tamagotchi needing constant feeding, and more like a digital sidekick that’s always ready to go. Pick it up when you need it, put it down when you don’t; whenever you’re not using your phone, it’s charging. Android users have known this feeling for years, but a lot of iPhone users are going to love it now.
Yup. Not only will people begin walking back the stupid comments made about wireless charging over the years, they're going to come to actually enjoy it and appreciate it.
And as the Verge pointed out, this will mean more wireless charging pads in the wild. So that's good for us who've already made these arguments in the past.
Apple catching up. These days, that's the big deal.
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Technically, yes, the point of entry went up $50 but last year the 7 storage started at 32GB, with it costing an extra $100 to upgrade to 128GB and $200 to get 256GB (same price for the 8). That extra $50 slides right in where a theoretical 64GB option would have cost for the 7 last year. And for 8 Plus, the 256GB option is actually $19 cheaper than the equivalent 7 Plus last year.
I realize we're talking about tiny amounts of money relative to the total cost but the cost of the 8/8 Plus' didn't really increase. Of course, whether one sees value in those models at those prices is up to the individual and will likely vary depending on the model from which they are upgrading.
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Or It could be Apple has ample supply of the 8, but most likely its people waiting for the X.
Yeah, I've spoken to a lot of people planning to upgrade and nearly all are either planning to get the X or are waiting to see it in person before deciding if it's worth the extra cost.
I disagree, I think the iPhone X is very well designed. My caveats with the design are 1) way too narrow, but this seems to be a follow the leader situation where everyone is doing it and 2) they need to black out the ears around the notch, not a hardware design issue but rather software/UI.
What else do people want in terms of hardware? Bezel-less design, check. Top of the line camera, check. Top of the line display, check. Top of the line processor, check. Top of the line customer service, check. I really don't see anywhere that the X falls short in terms of hardware design, I don't really see where the hardware falls behind other flagships, the X is very well packed. It certainly blows away the iPhone 7/8 with their humungous bezels. It's very simple, you get more screen with a physically smaller phone. Of course they fall behind with their prehistoric OS, but that's another matter, and one that could be fixed through software updates, even though it won't.
I didn't click the link, I was mainly disagreeing that the 6/7 era will be looked at as the pinnacle of design, and after that Apple lost its design lead. IMO the X is a much better jump in design than the 6 was over the 5. Oh I know you were comparing the 8 to the 6/7, but the 8 is just something Apple put in there to make that $999 jump more appealing to the X. It's anyone's guess what the "midrange flagship" will be next year, but I highly doubt it will be a 8s.
This is interesting:
iOS 11 fails the detail test, says designer, as he points to inconsistencies
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I think you misread my comment about the iPhone 6/7 generation's designs.
I wrote that those generations will be seen as the years when Apple lost its design lead, not the pinnacle of their design.
iOS 11 fails the detail test, says designer, as he points to inconsistencies
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I think you misread my comment about the iPhone 6/7 generation's designs.
I wrote that those generations will be seen as the years when Apple lost its design lead, not the pinnacle of their design.
This is interesting:
iOS 11 fails the detail test, says designer, as he points to inconsistencies
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I think you misread my comment about the iPhone 6/7 generation's designs.
I wrote that those generations will be seen as the years when Apple lost its design lead, not the pinnacle of their design.
OK I see the distinction, but I still disagree they lost their design lead. If anything they've hit a new pinnacle of design IMO with the X. Just opinion though, and I still have feel Apple missed the boat on a lot of things, but they always do.
I think it is an important point. Apple are visibly slipping. Both in Software and Hardware.
I agree. I think the 8 will be the last we see of that generation's design. It's the finest iteration of it, but it's on its way out.
Now that Apple has a proper and more competitive flagship model, people are realizing how outdated the iPhone looks.
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I agree the iPhone X is Apple in a far more competitive and interesting form. Pinnacle of design? I'm not so sure. I could pick on the camera and back-side design (not to mention the camera bump), I could pick on the notch, I could even pick on the rather thick borders around the OLED display.
Honestly, I think LG has stepped up their design game with the V30. It's probably my favorite all around design of the year. Followed closely behind by Samsung's S8/Note 8 design (an interchangeable look). I would rank the iPhone X third amongst this group.
But again, a welcomed and sorely needed change of direction for Apple design. We're in agreement there. I also have no doubt that the iPhone X is already on its way to becoming an iconic look, largely due in part to the notch.
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Of course this is all so highly subjective. I do think it's the pinnacle, but my opinion is predicated much on the elimination of bezels which is a big deal to me. Someone else may not care as much. I never understood why the camera bump is a big deal, not something that's ever bothered me or affected me functionally. I don't find the borders that thick, not much thicker than the supposedly absent borders on the Note 8 for example, which actually does have bezels/borders. As for the notch, yeah everyone can and is picking on it, but mainly because of the way its implemented in the UI. I actually like the idea of saving space by incorporating the status bar into the same region laterally.
But in terms of other flagships like the v30, Note 8/S8, etc I'm just not seeing where they have superior hardware design than the X. Of course I say that with the caveat that we all have our personal opinions and one design may appeal more to someone. The other caveat is that I'm not talking about software as IMO iOS is primitive and quite a bit behind Android. But in terms of hitting all the hardware checkboxes I'm failing to see which ones Apple missed on the X.
PS: We are not disagreeing, just enjoying the conversation. =)
This is the reason why the iPhone 8 Plus is costing more than an S8/S8 Plus. Apparently Apple told TheVerge they consider the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus flagships alongside the iPhone X and not below it.
Look for a lockscreen widget app.
https://m.androidcentral.com/best-android-lock-screen-and-lock-screen-replacement-apps
Thanks, so basically I have to get a whole new lock screen. This is some of the things that pull me away from Android.
Yeah, I don't get all the hate for the notch either, no one's seems that outraged that the essential has a similar notch. Plus I like that it basically saves space by putting all the status information next to the camera. Obviously it the can put all that stuff under the screen it would be even better, but for what is available now, I think the notch is fine.
Have you checked your app whether it has an option to shows ongoing info status in notification?
Apple version of widget is more like the ongoing/permanent notification in Android. Then you can set this show on lock screen.