I think it's pretty clear the 8s are underselling compared to previous launches, but I bet that's more due to the existence of the X than a feeling they're not worth the upgrade over previous generations.
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Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)
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I think it's pretty clear the 8s are underselling compared to previous launches, but I bet that's more due to the existence of the X than a feeling they're not worth the upgrade over previous generations.
In portrait mode it does show more content than the 8 Plus except slightly cramped
I believe it's significantly smaller, this picture of a X screen overlaid on top of a 8 plus screen is what brought it home to me: https://www.phonearena.com/news/App...an-the-5.5-inch-iPhone-8-Plus-display_id98116 It's actually a shame they didn't just move the screen up, reduce the top bezel, but keep the 16:9 aspect AND keep the physical touch ID sensor.
i don't agree with this. The Nexus 6 was and is a far bigger phone (both taller and importantly wider) than the iPhone 6/7/8 Plus. It's noticeably chunkier too. The Nexus 6 was far too wide to sit comfortably in hand and the back made sitting the phone down on any surface turned the whole device in a fidget spinner .... Let alone
I know I'm in the minority, but no one else finds a wide phone MORE stable in the hand? I feel like the 7+ can sit right in my hand with no fear of falling out, but maybe that's due to my hand size. With the Note 8 it felt too narrow so my palm didn't really "grip" it, and it was so tall it felt like it would teeter totter and fall out.
and I like a little junk in the trunk too so the phone nestles into my palm..
This s6 edge took a bit of getting used to and a case to be comfortable
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It's the Goldilocks thing.
For me the iPhone Plus models are about as wide as I find comfortable. Wider and I do find them unweildy.
As for narrower I do not mind, the G6 & S8 were comfortable for me, but it's the height that also an important factor.
The Note 8 for me feels fine width wise, but height is verging on Nexus 6 height and that's just too long / tall for me.
Maybe my hands were too big. I had to grip the Note 8 a bit harder for it to feel stable, and then I'd get false touches on the sides from my fat palms. The biggest perpetrator was the edge screen, if I hit it with my palm it wouldn't activate, but it would cause the rest of the screen to not work at all and I'd be sitting there poking with my finger wondering if the touch digitizer died. I'm embarrassed to say I did that a lot before figuring out it was the edge app, and even then I still forgot and kept doing it from time to time.
I love the form factor of the S8, including its width. It makes one handed use very realistic, heck, even comfortable.
As for the height, sure the aspect ratio is a little taller, but with features like swipe down to pull down the notification shade, you're never really reaching to the very top most of the screen on a regular bases.
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I think 5" and 6".
As for the height, sure the aspect ratio is a little taller, but with features like swipe down to pull down the notification shade, you're never really reaching to the very top most of the screen on a regular bases.
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I think 5" and 6".
I have never loved the S8/Note form factor. They are too tall for sure. It's amazing for me to be saying this after all the sh*t Samsung has taken and continues to take, but the biggest reason I love the Note is the software. Form factor though, kinda bleh. It's not an ugly phone but the length is weird.
On the other hand, the iPhone 8 Plus feels so damn good now with the glass back.
Actually the 8+ feels smooth and silky if there were such a thing for phones. I loved holding it.
It really is pretty interesting that this is happening to Apple. I was told this doesn't happen to Apple:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/ios-11-app-slowdowns-performance-issues/
iPhone Users Complain of App Slowdowns and Performance Drops After Installing iOS 11
... numerous users who have installed iOS 11 claim to be experiencing much slower app performance, app crashes, and other similar issues. The initial reddit post calls launching apps "an absolute chore," a sentiment echoed by dozens of additional comments.
Users are complaining that their phones "just get stuck on apps" and that a hard reset is the only way to fix the problem.
Multiple iPhone models appear to be affected, with redditors reporting issues on the iPhone 6s, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and other earlier models. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus do not appear to be affected, and there are few complaints about iPad Pro models.
I mean, we all know first round updates can have bugs, but usually with Apple, this is so uncommon and minimal that it doesn't really make news.
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Hard to disagree with the bolded given the past couple of years. Not only is Apple late to the party, they're joining it via a new and even more expensive tier that is going to be extremely difficult to fulfill demand for. Like I said, it's going to be a very frustrating launch for their customers. This is the price (literally!) of Apple lagging behind the competition and playing catch up this way. And from early reports of OLED production, it looks like it will be this way at least until the first half of 2018.
Regarding Samsung and value, I forget which thread I said this in, but I think the S8 is still pound-for-pound the best value at this point in time. They're offering leading class hardware, extra added value software features on top of a mature and stable Android OS, and doing so without screwing the customers (no compromise smaller model, for example, and lots of promotions and discounts).
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I haven't handled the 8's myself, but am super happy that Apple is going back to glass-back designs. Not only has it helped refine and fix the iPhone 6-7 look, but yes, glass feels and looks more premium, and offers better features (better radio signals, wireless charging...).
In fact, I hope Samsung copies Apple's Silver white glass-back color. I love that look.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/25/ios-11-app-slowdowns-performance-issues/
iPhone Users Complain of App Slowdowns and Performance Drops After Installing iOS 11
... numerous users who have installed iOS 11 claim to be experiencing much slower app performance, app crashes, and other similar issues. The initial reddit post calls launching apps "an absolute chore," a sentiment echoed by dozens of additional comments.
Users are complaining that their phones "just get stuck on apps" and that a hard reset is the only way to fix the problem.
Multiple iPhone models appear to be affected, with redditors reporting issues on the iPhone 6s, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, and other earlier models. The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus do not appear to be affected, and there are few complaints about iPad Pro models.
I mean, we all know first round updates can have bugs, but usually with Apple, this is so uncommon and minimal that it doesn't really make news.
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Hard to disagree with the bolded given the past couple of years. Not only is Apple late to the party, they're joining it via a new and even more expensive tier that is going to be extremely difficult to fulfill demand for. Like I said, it's going to be a very frustrating launch for their customers. This is the price (literally!) of Apple lagging behind the competition and playing catch up this way. And from early reports of OLED production, it looks like it will be this way at least until the first half of 2018.
Regarding Samsung and value, I forget which thread I said this in, but I think the S8 is still pound-for-pound the best value at this point in time. They're offering leading class hardware, extra added value software features on top of a mature and stable Android OS, and doing so without screwing the customers (no compromise smaller model, for example, and lots of promotions and discounts).
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Agree about the look and feel in hand of the new glass back--big, big improvement over the aluminium (for my non-US members), very premium feel.
I haven't handled the 8's myself, but am super happy that Apple is going back to glass-back designs. Not only has it helped refine and fix the iPhone 6-7 look, but yes, glass feels and looks more premium, and offers better features (better radio signals, wireless charging...).
In fact, I hope Samsung copies Apple's Silver white glass-back color. I love that look.
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On my Note 8 swipe down gave me the app drawer, not the notification panel. I hated that, but I highly dislike swiping down anywhere on the screen for notifications. Either of them drive me nuts when trying to swipe on the home screen for things like widgets. I didn't see anywhere I could change or turn that off either, almost made me smash my Note 8 against the wall.
But regardless, found myself reaching to the top of the screen just as much as any other phone. It's a bit scary having to balance the Note 8 one handed to get to the top of the screen.
Yea, the Note 8 is taller compared to the S8. I would not enjoy the physical hand gymnastics that would be involved in a device that size.
That's why I love the form factor of the S8 -- I get the joys of a phablet in a very manageable size. Even if you want to say the curves/edges actually make it a 5.7" or 5.6" or even a 5.5" screen, that is still phablet territory.
Even the biggest design flaw -- the FPS location -- is reachable and feels like second nature now. Cannot say the same for the S8+ and Note 8. I've said that Samsung needs to correct the FPS location primarily for their larger handsets.
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Nah, these types of stories/posts happen every year after major updates. Where do you think the perpetual belief that ‘Apple intentionally slows down devices or reduces battery life so that people are forced to upgrade’ comes from? There are always a rash of threads/posts claiming such things. And I’m not discounting that these folks are actually experiencing these issues but rather it’s nothing new.
FWIW, I haven’t noticed any significant performance issues with iOS 11 on my 7 Plus but my battery performance certainly seems a bit worse. Hoping things get ironed out a bit in upcoming point releases.
I don't recall one making frontpage news like this, but entirely believe you. Hey, you know me, I think day-one updates are actually more problematic than their worth precisely because of bugs, etc.
I don't have any performance issues with my ipad or iPhone since upgrading to iOS 11 but my battery life has tanked. I agree there are always stories every year with both android and iOS about phones being bricked or being really buggy after major software updates.