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Are you going to switch?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 24.8%
  • No, staying with iPhone

    Votes: 175 47.2%
  • No, I'll go with another platform

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Considering it

    Votes: 101 27.2%

  • Total voters
    371

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
I will be worried about it after 2nyears after everyone that wants the X design gets it and things settle back to normal.
Well apple has a few record breaking quarters in them before 2 years is up. And I'm not sure what normal means for apple...guidance between 55b and 65b per quarter?

Let's be real here, apart from the screen and he design it's an incremental update from the 7.
If we are going to be real, Timmy expanded on a strategy that Jobs started; and expanded the strategy quite successfully. Not surprisingly Samsung is doing the same thing. Their current note and galaxy models are basically just incremental updates from years ago; being real of course.

And we will talk about revenues once X Plus has launched and a year has passed because this has always been tim's strategy. Launch incremental updates. Create Pent up demand. Some down quarters here and there. New design launched. Everyone clamouring for a new design run for the new phone. Sales record broken. Milk the new design for 3 years. Rinse and repeat.
This strategy works well for apple, it's customers, it's shareholders and management. Win/win all around as apple heads toward a first; $1T valuation. But as I said above, it's not only apple that is doing the rinse and repeat part. Samsung to its' credit has somehow managed to excel with this strategy.
 

Radon87000

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Well apple has a few record breaking quarters in them before 2 years is up. And I'm not sure what normal means for apple...guidance between 55b and 65b per quarter?


If we are going to be real, Timmy expanded on a strategy that Jobs started; and expanded the strategy quite successfully. Not surprisingly Samsung is doing the same thing. Their current note and galaxy models are basically just incremental updates from years ago; being real of course.


This strategy works well for apple, it's customers, it's shareholders and management. Win/win all around as apple heads toward a first; $1T valuation. But as I said above, it's not only apple that is doing the rinse and repeat part. Samsung to its' credit has somehow managed to excel with this strategy.


Let’s see Apple maintain record breaking sales for 8 straight years with zero down quarters. Then we will talk. Because that’s the record to break.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
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Gotta be in it to win it
Let’s see Apple maintain record breaking sales for 8 straight years with zero down quarters. Then we will talk. Because that’s the record to break.
Lol. Okay, that's your benchmark.

Timmy's bonus will talk about apple results.

In the meantime, apples guidance for next quarter is $87B. Let's talk then.

You do get to be right about one thing though. $87B a quarter is not a sustainable figure.
 

Aneres11

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Oct 2, 2011
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So having switched from Android to iPhone with the X here are my thoughts so far:

I really like the iPhone X.
There are lots of good things about this phone, but similarly there are some backwards steps I feel Apple have taken.
On balance, it's a very good experience but it still feels very beta to me.

For a start, Face ID is just ok. It works in most instances, but I have yet to see it work in bright sunlight. Thankfully, I don't see much sunlight during the week at the moment as I travel to work in the dark, and come home in the dark! Bloody British winter!

However, during weekends when I am out and about in the day, it sucks.

I don't miss the home button one tiny little bit.
Swiping up to close apps is basically ripped straight from BlackBerry 10 which is only a good thing.
It works extremely well and was not something I even had to adjust to. This is a massive step forward for me and makes the whole iPhone experience even better.

LOVE swiping left to right on the bottom bar to swap between open apps. This is so good. Again, a big leap forward.

Not so good are the swipe up and right to get to open apps - like accessing BB Hub.
It works, but it doesn't always. Sometimes I find it just throws up the last app I had open rather than stacking all of my in use apps. Takes a few tries. Even when I go painfully slow like the official videos led us to think was the 'correct' way doesn't always work. I also don't understand why they have removed the option to swipe the open app to remove - pressing and holding to bring up a 'close' button on the top right is a backwards step. It adds an additional motion to do something that was quicker before - not very Apple.
I fully expect them to change this back and will be disappointed if they don't.

Build quality is great for me. I have a screen protector and clear case on (also have an official leather taupe case) and I love both. I enjoy having a glass screen protector that fits and not having to deal with a stupid curved screen.
It's definitely a bonus that there's a plethora of accessories to choose from too - one thing I love about owning an iPhone.

Animoji are proving to be the best things ever. :D
It's such a gimick, but it really is the best fun and makes for some fantastic messages to friends and family.

Battery life seems decent to me so far. I use Apple Car Play, so journey to and from work is about 35 minutes to and from each so it gets a charge which boosts it to more than enough to last me through the evening until bed time.
The screen is fantastic, and all content looks very good on it. When I got the phone the screen was so yellow, but turning tru-tone off has seemingly removed the majority of it. It isn't as cool in temperature as other LCD iPhones i've had before but I am aware the glue is still drying so the yellow will disappear eventually. :p:Do_O.

Not tried the camera for anything meaningful yet, but judging by the pics my sister keeps sending me of the dog on his walks with her 8 Plus - I'm excited.

All in all I'm really happy so far. I still prefer Android as an OS as I like the customisation options more. I also like the built in google now stuff which Apple just does not have. Even downloading the google now app doesn't compare.

I think I will be happy keeping this one for a while or at least until some point next year when a new Android flagship piques my interest. If Sony come out with a reduced bezel flagship I am likely going to want to get straight in to that, so lets see what happens. ;)
 

widgeteer

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I was going to return my iPhone X but decided to live with it for a week as my daily driver. I’m happy I did. Face ID is absolutely the future. Imagine having your phone unlocked all the time yet you are the only one who can interact with it. It is an amazing feature that has changed how i interact with the phone.
 

convergent

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I was going to return my iPhone X but decided to live with it for a week as my daily driver. I’m happy I did. Face ID is absolutely the future. Imagine having your phone unlocked all the time yet you are the only one who can interact with it. It is an amazing feature that has changed how i interact with the phone.
That does sound good if it works that well.
 
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widgeteer

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That does sound good if it works that well.

I've found it does. I virtually never get a failed attempt. And as I've used it more, it's better and better at angles such as on my desk.

Face ID will be to Touch ID what Touch ID was to pin codes.
 

maka344

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Nov 4, 2009
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I've found it does. I virtually never get a failed attempt. And as I've used it more, it's better and better at angles such as on my desk.

Face ID will be to Touch ID what Touch ID was to pin codes.

Me too, failed attempts happen when I'm not really looking at it. Other than that, it's flawless. Much faster than my Note 8 and S8 at further distances. For example, using Apple Pay on the Tube, it authenticates even before I've brought it to face level.

You can simply wake the screen and swipe up, no waiting.

But it's not perfect when flat on my desk at work - I can accept this. I've found that it's a lot faster than when I first set FaceID up.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Me too, failed attempts happen when I'm not really looking at it. Other than that, it's flawless. Much faster than my Note 8 and S8 at further distances. For example, using Apple Pay on the Tube, it authenticates even before I've brought it to face level.

You can simply wake the screen and swipe up, no waiting.

But it's not perfect when flat on my desk at work - I can accept this. I've found that it's a lot faster than when I first set FaceID up.
As long as it works I can picture using FaceID. I guess for me I would prefer something a little more discreet if I need to check something in a meeting.
 
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widgeteer

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Me too, failed attempts happen when I'm not really looking at it. Other than that, it's flawless. Much faster than my Note 8 and S8 at further distances. For example, using Apple Pay on the Tube, it authenticates even before I've brought it to face level.

You can simply wake the screen and swipe up, no waiting.

But it's not perfect when flat on my desk at work - I can accept this. I've found that it's a lot faster than when I first set FaceID up.

I’m so impressed with how much foresight Apple used when designing the OS to integrate it. I know understand why the notification shade and lock screen are the same. Because there essentially is no lockscreen anymore. You pick up your device and you’re viewing and interacting with messages.

It makes other forms of unlocking seem archaic to me now.
 

maka344

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Nov 4, 2009
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More discrete, without spending hundreds more dollars after already spending $1000+ on a phone.

This is why i'm moving away from Apple, btw. They really have started to move towards an "adjust to our tech" model, which is a little offputting for me.
I agree fully. And an expensive one at that!
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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So having switched from Android to iPhone with the X here are my thoughts so far:

I really like the iPhone X.
There are lots of good things about this phone, but similarly there are some backwards steps I feel Apple have taken.
On balance, it's a very good experience but it still feels very beta to me.

For a start, Face ID is just ok. It works in most instances, but I have yet to see it work in bright sunlight. Thankfully, I don't see much sunlight during the week at the moment as I travel to work in the dark, and come home in the dark! Bloody British winter!

However, during weekends when I am out and about in the day, it sucks.

I don't miss the home button one tiny little bit.
Swiping up to close apps is basically ripped straight from BlackBerry 10 which is only a good thing.
It works extremely well and was not something I even had to adjust to. This is a massive step forward for me and makes the whole iPhone experience even better.

LOVE swiping left to right on the bottom bar to swap between open apps. This is so good. Again, a big leap forward.

Not so good are the swipe up and right to get to open apps - like accessing BB Hub.
It works, but it doesn't always. Sometimes I find it just throws up the last app I had open rather than stacking all of my in use apps. Takes a few tries. Even when I go painfully slow like the official videos led us to think was the 'correct' way doesn't always work. I also don't understand why they have removed the option to swipe the open app to remove - pressing and holding to bring up a 'close' button on the top right is a backwards step. It adds an additional motion to do something that was quicker before - not very Apple.
I fully expect them to change this back and will be disappointed if they don't.

Build quality is great for me. I have a screen protector and clear case on (also have an official leather taupe case) and I love both. I enjoy having a glass screen protector that fits and not having to deal with a stupid curved screen.
It's definitely a bonus that there's a plethora of accessories to choose from too - one thing I love about owning an iPhone.

Animoji are proving to be the best things ever. :D
It's such a gimick, but it really is the best fun and makes for some fantastic messages to friends and family.

Battery life seems decent to me so far. I use Apple Car Play, so journey to and from work is about 35 minutes to and from each so it gets a charge which boosts it to more than enough to last me through the evening until bed time.
The screen is fantastic, and all content looks very good on it. When I got the phone the screen was so yellow, but turning tru-tone off has seemingly removed the majority of it. It isn't as cool in temperature as other LCD iPhones i've had before but I am aware the glue is still drying so the yellow will disappear eventually. :p:Do_O.

Not tried the camera for anything meaningful yet, but judging by the pics my sister keeps sending me of the dog on his walks with her 8 Plus - I'm excited.

All in all I'm really happy so far. I still prefer Android as an OS as I like the customisation options more. I also like the built in google now stuff which Apple just does not have. Even downloading the google now app doesn't compare.

I think I will be happy keeping this one for a while or at least until some point next year when a new Android flagship piques my interest. If Sony come out with a reduced bezel flagship I am likely going to want to get straight in to that, so lets see what happens. ;)
Great write up! I think you could have a good future with your own blog writing these things!
 
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maj71303

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I have the iPhone X as well and it's going back to T-mobile as the physical design isn't bad at all but iOS just needs a major overall as it's not at all laid out in a logical manner. The static rolls of icons need to be retired. The notch isn't as big of a deal as it's not as big as people make it out to be. Face ID is a bit slower than touch ID is and gives more failures IMO. I'm going back to android as it seems alot better. IMO OS wise Google has surpassed Apple. App quality though Apple still holds the crown, but if they don't watch it that one will leave them as well.

Just my opinions but this is what i'm seeing. Apple OS wise has stagnated to the point that they need an OS overhaul badly now. The day and age of the static icon screen has run it's course and they need to recognize that. They have great market share in the old USA, but outside the US they are losing ground more and more. IF they lose the USA market then they are in a real bind then.
 
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convergent

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I have the iPhone X as well and it's going back to T-mobile as the physical design isn't bad at all but iOS just needs a major overall as it's not at all laid out in a logical manner. The static rolls of icons need to be retired. The notch isn't as big of a deal as it's not as big as people make it out to be. Face ID is a bit slower than touch ID is and gives more failures IMO. I'm going back to android as it seems alot better. IMO OS wise Google has surpassed Apple. App quality though Apple still holds the crown, but if they don't watch it that one will leave them as well.

Just my opinions but this is what i'm seeing. Apple OS wise has stagnated to the point that they need an OS overhaul badly now. The day and age of the static icon screen has run it's course and they need to recognize that. They have great market share in the old USA, but outside the US they are losing ground more and more. IF they lose the USA market then they are in a real bind then.

Curious what apps you find to be dramatically different in iOS? Other than a few banking apps that haven't turned on FPS, I see almost no difference between iOS and Android apps that I use.
 

widgeteer

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Curious what apps you find to be dramatically different in iOS? Other than a few banking apps that haven't turned on FPS, I see almost no difference between iOS and Android apps that I use.

I often find Android apps to be a bit better due to how the OS's work. For instance I use a proxy IP app. iOS version: you simply turn it on and a little "VPN" logo appears in your toolbar. Android version: info shade displays connection strength, option to pause the app, option to stop it. And of course you can click on it to open the app directly.

Maybe a few years ago it was true that iOS version of apps were better but not anymore. I think the Google Play store does carry more junk though.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Curious what apps you find to be dramatically different in iOS? Other than a few banking apps that haven't turned on FPS, I see almost no difference between iOS and Android apps that I use.

I know your reply wasn’t directed at me but if it’s alright, all share what I noticed from my time using both an iPhone and Android (Nexus 6P/Pixel XL/Pixel 2 XL)

Outlook is better on iOS. The interface I find nicer, smoother in performance, and more polished. I can’t delete from notifications on Android but can on iOS. It has a multipanel layout on Plus model phones but not on Android. And IIRC, the ability to print was only added to the Android version recently after existing for quite a while on iOS.

Spark, another longstanding, highly praised email client on iOS/Mac, doesn’t have a version on Android. Same goes for AnyList. I know it’s not an earth shattering app but it’s the best app of it’s type that I’ve found over the years on any platform, allows syncing across our family and ditching it when switching to Android was a big compromise for us.

Carrot Weather, again, not on Android.

1Password feels like it’s a smoother experience on iOS and how it integrates with browsers on iOS is just better and takes less effort. The Starbucks app is also better on iOS though it has recently been updated to bring some parity. It still doesn’t allow use of Android Pay in the app, nor prompt me to use a wallet card based on location.

And yes, as others have mentioned, may finance/banking apps are inferior. A pair that I use every day lag behind on Android and don’t offer biometric authetication even though their iOS versions have had it for years.

I’m not cherry-picking apps either—these were the handful I personally already use and noticed in my workflow on both platforms. There tons of apps that have equally good versions on both platforms and certainly many that exist on Android only, especially in cases where there is functionality available to them on Android but not iOS. But for the most part, over time I notice more missing apps/features in apps on Android than the other way around.
 
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