Do you plan to switch from iPhone to Android? (2016)

[MRU]

Well there's no 70% increase in speed, sorry. I have tried with both iphone 7 and previous models. It charges at pretty much the exact speed as with a regular charger.

I have two 7's. Tested side by side one with iPhone and other iPad charger the iPad charger charges way faster.

Up-to 70% increase in charge & speed is only till the point where it starts trickle charging. At that point it doesn't matter which charger you use.

Likewise it's been tested quite thoroughly that the iPhone 7 can take 1.76A from fast chargers including those intended for Android.

I do not know why your device is not charging quicker, but the general consensus of everyone else and the myriad of tests readily available all have a consensus that says otherwise.

 

[Radon87000]

Use an iPad charger. Charges the iPhones (Since iPhone 6) pretty much as quickly as Quick Charge does on Android devices.

Faster charging is officially supported with it, just Apple don't include the 2A charger with the iPhone for god knows what reason, especially gauling when you consider the cost of the devices.

It degrades your battery a lot faster. I used to charge my 6 with the iPad charger and after almost a year only 91% of my battery health remained. This time I charged my 7 using the standard iPhone charger which is very slow( takes almost 3 hours from 0 to 100) but so far in 6 months not even a single percentage drop. And even if you do take that risk, the quick charge on Androids is still faster
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The charging speed is the same with ipad charger and regular iphone though, plus model might charge faster.

No with an iPad charger, the smaller iPhone charges super fast but its pointless because you trade in the battery health for that speed. I don't know if it was iOS or the battery but before I retired my 6 I had to charge it 3 times a day to get through a normal day from 6 AM to 7PM.It wasn't that bad when it was new

 

[spinedoc77]

Now this sounds more like it: https://9to5mac.com/2017/04/13/iphone-8-sketchy-invisible-front-facing-camera/

New iPhone 8 report & renders claim in-screen Touch ID, 4mm bezels, ‘invisible’ front camera, more

Lastly, today’s report claims that the front-facing camera will be “invisible” and “hidden underneath the display.” This is something that we haven’t heard before, but falls in line with the bezel-less design.

• Front-facing Touch ID beneath the display.
• 4mm bezels around the entire edge of the device.
• 2.5D contoured glass on the front and back of the device surrounded by a metal frame.
• Wireless charging.
• Same dimensions as the iPhone 7.
• 5.8″ OLED display.
• “Invisible” front-facing camera hidden underneath the display.
• Large power button featuring two points of contact. Reason unknown.

I saw that, too good to be true? Could Apple truly make a device as incredibly awesome as that? Could they truly leapfrog everyone else? Makes me be more patient and avoid the siren's call of the S8 for now.

 

[C DM]

It degrades your battery a lot faster. I used to charge my 6 with the iPad charger and after almost a year only 91% of my battery health remained. This time I charged my 7 using the standard iPhone charger which is very slow( takes almost 3 hours from 0 to 100) but so far in 6 months not even a single percentage drop. And even if you do take that risk, the quick charge on Androids is still faster
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No with an iPad charger, the smaller iPhone charges super fast but its pointless because you trade in the battery health for that speed. I don't know if it was iOS or the battery but before I retired my 6 I had to charge it 3 times a day to get through a normal day from 6 AM to 7PM.It wasn't that bad when it was new

The faster supported charging isn't really so fast that it degrades the battery like that. While you might have certainly had your own personal anecdotal experience, there are many others who haven't really experienced noticeable negative effects from it.

 

[Radon87000]

The faster supported charging isn't really so fast that it degrades the battery like that. While you might have certainly had your own personal anecdotal experience, there are many others who haven't really experienced noticeable negative effects from it.

When you are charging using an iPad charger, it heats up the phone more in comparison to the normal charger. More heat affects battery health.

And not that much faster? It charges the phone at double speed. Booting from zero it took the iPad charger just 20 seconds to start the phone while the iPhone charger took 2.2 minutes. To reach 100% the iPad charger took 2 hours while the iPhone charger took almost double the time at 3.43hrs.

The iPad charger is great for a quick top up but charging it at those speeds is going to affect battery health in the long run.

 

[C DM]

When you are charging using an iPad charger, it heats up the phone more in comparison to the normal charger. More heat affects battery health.

And not that much faster? It charges the phone at double speed. Booting from zero it took the iPad charger just 20 seconds to start the phone while the iPhone charger took 2.2 minutes. To reach 100% the iPad charger took 2 hours while the iPhone charger took almost double the time at 3.43hrs.

The iPad charger is great for a quick top up but charging it at those speeds is going to affect battery health in the long run.

It's not enough to cause noticeable damage for most, that's the point.

 

[I7guy]

When you are charging using an iPad charger, it heats up the phone more in comparison to the normal charger. More heat affects battery health.

And not that much faster? It charges the phone at double speed. Booting from zero it took the iPad charger just 20 seconds to start the phone while the iPhone charger took 2.2 minutes. To reach 100% the iPad charger took 2 hours while the iPhone charger took almost double the time at 3.43hrs.

The iPad charger is great for a quick top up but charging it at those speeds is going to affect battery health in the long run.

Certainly nothing that can be "proved". Except with tens of millions of devices there might be some that experience behavior out of the norm due to factors other than the charger used.

Whatever the alleged tradeoff in battery life I personally don't care. It's not like Apple is "forcing" anyone to use any charger.

 

[Radon87000]

It's not enough to cause noticeable damage for most, that's the point.

Certainly nothing that can be "proved". Except with tens of millions of devices there might be some that experience behavior out of the norm due to factors other than the charger used.

Whatever the alleged tradeoff in battery life I personally don't care. It's not like Apple is "forcing" anyone to use any charger.

It causes more damage than the standard charger is the point. And there is scientific proof on this

http://www.gottabemobile.com/how-to-keep-iphone-battery-good-health/

According to Battery University, your iPhone’s battery can live longer when it’s charged using a slower charge rate, especially one that your iPhone is equipped to handle adequately and properly.

Sure, you can use the iPad charger every once in a while to quick-charge your iPhone when you need it the most, but it’s not recommended to use it all the time.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/the_high_power_lithium_ion

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Not only does a lithium-ion battery live longer with a slower charge rate; moderate discharge rates also help. Figure 5 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the improved laboratory performance on a charge and discharge rate of 1C compared to 2 and 3C."

Battery experts agree that the longevity of lithium-ion is shortened by other factors than charge and discharge rates. Even though incremental improvements can be achieved with careful use, our environment and the services required are not always conducive for optimal battery life. In this respect, the battery behaves much like us humans - we cannot always live a life that caters to achieve maximum life span.

 

[C DM]

It causes more damage than the standard charger is the point. And there is scientific proof on this

http://www.gottabemobile.com/how-to-keep-iphone-battery-good-health/

According to Battery University, your iPhone’s battery can live longer when it’s charged using a slower charge rate, especially one that your iPhone is equipped to handle adequately and properly.

Sure, you can use the iPad charger every once in a while to quick-charge your iPhone when you need it the most, but it’s not recommended to use it all the time.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/the_high_power_lithium_ion

"
Not only does a lithium-ion battery live longer with a slower charge rate; moderate discharge rates also help. Figure 5 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the improved laboratory performance on a charge and discharge rate of 1C compared to 2 and 3C."

Battery experts agree that the longevity of lithium-ion is shortened by other factors than charge and discharge rates. Even though incremental improvements can be achieved with careful use, our environment and the services required are not always conducive for optimal battery life. In this respect, the battery behaves much like us humans - we cannot always live a life that caters to achieve maximum life span.

Again, the point was about real life noticeable/meaningful negative effects. There's all kinds of things people can do to squeeze out even more like by always keeping the battery between 40 and 80 and topping close to 80 frequently and all that, by the savings won't truly be noticeable enough for most to really be worthwhile to do all of that. This is similar to that in that the difference won't be noticeable enough to truly matter much for most.

Where's all the supposed worry about this when it comes to all kinds of non-Apple devices that support fast charging and the like? (That's a rhetorical question.)

 

[I7guy]

It causes more damage than the standard charger is the point. And there is scientific proof on this

http://www.gottabemobile.com/how-to-keep-iphone-battery-good-health/

According to Battery University, your iPhone’s battery can live longer when it’s charged using a slower charge rate, especially one that your iPhone is equipped to handle adequately and properly.

Sure, you can use the iPad charger every once in a while to quick-charge your iPhone when you need it the most, but it’s not recommended to use it all the time.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/the_high_power_lithium_ion

"
Not only does a lithium-ion battery live longer with a slower charge rate; moderate discharge rates also help. Figure 5 shows the cycle life as a function of charge and discharge rates. Observe the improved laboratory performance on a charge and discharge rate of 1C compared to 2 and 3C."

Battery experts agree that the longevity of lithium-ion is shortened by other factors than charge and discharge rates. Even though incremental improvements can be achieved with careful use, our environment and the services required are not always conducive for optimal battery life. In this respect, the battery behaves much like us humans - we cannot always live a life that caters to achieve maximum life span.

As I said, I could care less, but if this applies to iphone it also applies to android phones with fast charging. I use the phone and it's a tool, like a screwdriver that at some point will be replaced. My anker 24k mah battery pack also charges at a higher rate.

But to the basic premise, it can't be "proved" that MY battery life is shortened in any meaningful way by charging using the iPad charger. As a point of support the 5s won't charge any faster using the iPad charger vs the standard 1amp charger.

 

[MRU]

I use the iPad charger all the time. My battery life and charging capacity remain unaffected. I fast charge my androids using their chargers and likewise their battery remains unchanged. Any potential degradation of battery applies to fast charging android devices and we don't hear the proclomations of catastrophe that are being banded here re: quicker charging the iPhone ....

Indeed I fast charge my electric car when I can, and it's battery capacity remains much the same since I got it nearly 2 years ago despite similar damning proclamations abd warnings about potential battery degradation.

This certainly seems to be a case of making mountains out of molehills. I don't dispute that fast charging could degrade battery quicker than regular charging, but to the point that in the devices lifetime you would notice the difference in degradation over one via the other is pretty slim.

 

[Fille84]

I have two 7's. Tested side by side one with iPhone and other iPad charger the iPad charger charges way faster.

Up-to 70% increase in charge & speed is only till the point where it starts trickle charging. At that point it doesn't matter which charger you use.

Likewise it's been tested quite thoroughly that the iPhone 7 can take 1.76A from fast chargers including those intended for Android.

I do not know why your device is not charging quicker, but the general consensus of everyone else and the myriad of tests readily available all have a consensus that says otherwise.

It charges in a little over 2hrs, about the same time it takes for me to charge my iPhone 7 with the normal charger..

Here's another video. And yeah it charges quicker, but its a matter of about 10 minutes. So nothing really and its totally useless to charge with an ipad charger in my opinion. But again, I dont know how much quicker it charges the plus model.

 

[dannyyankou]

I'll wait and see what the iPhone 8 brings. But I'm locked in the iOS ecosystem right now and it would be tough to switch.

 

[Michael Goff]

I'll wait and see what the iPhone 8 brings. But I'm locked in the iOS ecosystem right now and it would be tough to switch.

Yeah, it can be expensive if you're big into it hardware wise. Laptop or tablet, phone, smart watch, and maybe a TV solution. And iTunes movies not working outside of ITunes...

 

[zone23]

Yeah, it can be expensive if you're big into it hardware wise. Laptop or tablet, phone, smart watch, and maybe a TV solution. And iTunes movies not working outside of ITunes...

Two of my biggest hurdles right now are being able to voice control the lights in my house (Phillips Hue) and the Music in my car (Apple Music). At home I can't tell S-Voice to turn on the lights. In the car once you start playing the music is okay you can skip tracks but I can't say "play playlist" or a specific artist. Something else I ran into is with the Samsung Gear Frontier watch and its lack of apps basically it has none. Apples got me hooked because it works.

 

[Michael Goff]

Two of my biggest hurdles right now are being able to voice control the lights in my house (Phillips Hue) and the Music in my car (Apple Music). At home I can't tell S-Voice to turn on the lights. In the car once you start playing the music is okay you can skip tracks but I can't say "play playlist" or a specific artist. Something else I ran into is with the Samsung Gear Frontier watch and its lack of apps basically it has none. Apples got me hooked because it works.

What apps do you use in your watch?

Edit: Also, won't S Voice trigger anything IFTTT can do?

 

[zone23]

What apps do you use in your watch?

Edit: Also, won't S Voice trigger anything IFTTT can do?

On my apple watch? Accuweather, twitter, Radar Scope, ecobee, Hue, Uber, find my friends for example. I didn't include the ones that you can actually get on the Frontier to like the cnn, calendar, maps, etc.

Edit: I'm not sure if S-Voice can trigger IFTTT but seems like a lot of work for something Siri can do out of the box.

 

[Michael Goff]

On my apple watch? Accuweather, twitter, Radar Scope, ecobee, Hue, Uber, find my friends for example. I didn't include the ones that you can actually get on the Frontier to like the cnn, calendar, maps, etc.

The weather widget is powered by accuweather, actually. If there is something the Apple Watch app does, let me know. There actually is an Uber app. There is a third party Hue app that costs money. The only thing I can think of with Ecobee is to ask if it supports IFTTT. You're right about Twitter from what I can tell and I don't know what Radar Scope is!

 

[zone23]

The weather widget is powered by accuweather, actually. If there is something the Apple Watch app does, let me know. There actually is an Uber app. There is a third party Hue app that costs money. The only thing I can think of with Ecobee is to ask if it supports IFTTT. You're right about Twitter from what I can tell and I don't know what Radar Scope is!

I guess my point is that just about every app for the iPhone has an app for the watch regardless of its usefulness. I tried the alternative hue app but it didn't actually support the frontier or at least it wouldn't install. I was pretty bummed at the lack of apps. I kind of figured you would go through my list off apps to show the ones available for the Samsung Gear. Radar Scope is a really nice weather radar app I use. SO to get a watch app you can't install the app from the playstore you actually have to go through the gear app in Samsung apps correct? If so I don't like that..

 

[Michael Goff]

I guess my point is that just about every app for the iPhone has an app for the watch regardless of its usefulness. I tried the alternative hue app but it didn't actually support the frontier or at least it wouldn't install. I was pretty bummed at the lack of apps. I kind of figured you would go through my list off apps to show the ones available for the Samsung Gear. Radar Scope is a really nice weather radar app I use. SO to get a watch app you can't install the app from the playstore you actually have to go through the gear app in Samsung apps correct? If so I don't like that..

I think you have to go through the gear app to get apps for the gear, yeah. And some of the apps don't exist if you have it connected to an iPhone.

 

[zone23]

I think you have to go through the gear app to get apps for the gear, yeah. And some of the apps don't exist if you have it connected to an iPhone.

I have a Galaxy S7 Edge and a iPhone 7 Plus (jet black woohoo), it was connected to the edge.

 

[Michael Goff]

I have a Galaxy S7 Edge and a iPhone 7 Plus (jet black woohoo), it was connected to the edge.

Alrighty.

Well, then, I don't know what to say. Maybe AW will some day come out with a good enough watch.

 

[zone23]

Alrighty.

Well, then, I don't know what to say. Maybe AW will some day come out with a good enough watch.

For me the AW is better than the GW. The GW did have some things I liked though like the big round display, AOD, standard watch band and the cool watch faces.

 

[Michael Goff]

For me the AW is better than the GW. The GW did have some things I liked though like the big round display, AOD, standard watch band and the cool watch faces.

Yeah, the software is great. Any good hardware, though?

 

[Roadstar]

Yeah, the software is great. Any good hardware, though?

These overlapping abbreviations are getting really hard to follow. I think we need to replace AW with something that's unambiguous regarding whether you're referring to the Apple Watch or Android Wear.