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Are you going to switch?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 24.8%
  • No, staying with iPhone

    Votes: 175 47.2%
  • No, I'll go with another platform

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Considering it

    Votes: 101 27.2%

  • Total voters
    371

epicrayban

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Hmm, do I see the shadow of a fairly large upper bezel? I'm hoping it's just a shadow. I'd be VERY disappointed if it was that large, especially if the bottom will be wasted on whatever that function bar ends up being. Could it be that the ip8 will indeed have huge bezels like the ip7 and 7s? Unless the function bar disappears when I need it to, I'm going to count it as a bezel.

Otherwise looks pretty sweet. I'm trying not to get myself riled up so far away from release, all these rumors are very spotty at best. Come on Apple, lose a prototype at a bar or something.

I think Engadget specifically said that not all the details are exact, just the overall design. I suspect the front screen will be edge-to-edge per latest rumors.

I'm excited about the function bar, but understand your concerns, too.
 
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tbayrgs

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I think Engadget specifically said that not all the details are exact, just the overall design. I suspect the front screen will be edge-to-edge per latest rumors.

I'm excited about the function bar, but understand your concerns, too.

I was reading about the same report on BGR I think (don't shoot me, came through on my Google Newsfeed ;)) and one line of thinking was that these are actually for the 7S and 7S+. They mentioned that screen sizes would be increasing to 5.0" and 5.8 respectively. Assuming they were still offering the 'premium' iPhone, these would at least make the 'legacy' models a bit more attractive upgrade options to those not looking to spend $1K+.

Found the story:

This new iPhone 8 leak has left us perplexed
 

epicrayban

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I was reading about the same report on BGR I think (don't shoot me, came through on my Google Newsfeed ;)) and one line of thinking was that these are actually for the 7S and 7S+. They mentioned that screen sizes would be increasing to 5.0" and 5.8 respectively. Assuming they were still offering the 'premium' iPhone, these would at least make the 'legacy' models a bit more attractive upgrade options to those not looking to spend $1K+.

Found the story:

This new iPhone 8 leak has left us perplexed


That part confused me too and I had to reread and make sure that they were still talking about the iPhone 8.

Who knows what will happen, but I sure hope that Apple updates the 7S models to something more. I said in a previous post that if the 7S models do gain wireless charging, wouldn't their backs have to be redesigned to glass? Maybe this means Apple updates the overall design, too. If those screens are going to get bigger, hopefully that means less bezels in the 7S models. That would help tremendously considering it's already a 3 year old design.

Definitely a long way to go before we get real answers... Fingers crossed.

Edit: this might also explain why the front of those renderings have such a large top bezel. Perhaps we really are seeing the 7S models.
 

bmac4

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Not a chance. You think they can cut holes in the OLED like a piece of paper for earpiece, camera and sensor?
The top will have bezel and so does the bottom to balance out.

Oh I know that will not happen. I was thinking more of the renders that have the little bezel for the ear piece and sensors. Still looks really good.
 

epicrayban

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I swear, my iPhone simply does not auto update apps from the App Store. Even when on wifi and even when plugged in.

I still see the same badge count on my App Store icon. I've purposely left it alone to see if it auto updates. I'm usually on wifi and I plgkug overnight every nigh by. It's been days now. Still the same badge numbers.

What gives?

Meanwhile, my apps on my s6 are auto updating without any thought or criteria from me. No need to be on wifi or plugged in or anything. It just works.
 
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Roadstar

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It's expensive AF for sure, but still I might consider getting one. That's pretty much tied to why I moved my main SIM back to my iPhone 7 from my OnePlus 3T today. The main reason was the combination of these news: http://thehackernews.com/2017/05/oneplus-mobile-vulnerabilities.html and http://thehackernews.com/2017/05/android-permissions-vulnerability.html. Apart from the camera, I liked almost everything about my OnePlus 3T, but learning that the company has been sitting on (at least partly) easily fixable security issues since January gave me a really bad impression about the company, especially when they're not exactly known for superb aftermarket support. I also have an S7 Edge, and Samsung has demonstrated that despite charging nearly iPhone prices for their devices, they only pretend to give a ***** about updates every now and then once a newer and shinier device has hit the store shelves. So even though the iPhone costs are skyrocketing and they don't always have the latest tech, at least I know its software will be patched without delays for four years or even more. So if I split the cost between supported years, it's actually quite a bargain especially when compared to Samsungs. Maybe Pixel 2 is a possible choice for me, but Google could also improve its support cycle a bit.

And now it looks like I'll be moving back to the 3T or my S7 Edge. The slightly better app quality doesn't seem to offset the loss of functionality anymore. Just today my work laptop (Windows) got its network connectivity hosed by an update while I was on a remote location and therefore out of reach from our IT support. The issue could be solved by downloading new drivers and the only functional network was on my phone. The iPhone didn't want to download the exe file at all as it can't handle that, but fortunately I had also my 3T in my backpack, and that in turn was happy to download the file and after connecting the phone to the laptop I could transfer the package there and get it back up and running.

Also later today we were outside with my 5-year-old son and we ended up farther away from home than I had originally anticipated. The boy got thirsty and I had only my iPhone with me. There was a grocery store right next to where we were, but I didn't have my wallet with me as I didn't anticipate needing it. If it had been my 3T or the S7 Edge, we could've just walked into the store and I could've paid with my phone, but that wasn't an option as I only had my iPhone with me and Apple Pay is not available here. At this point I'm not adding "yet" to the previous sentence as I've more or less lost all hope of Apple Pay ever making it here, and as Apple Pay seems to be the only NFC payment option iPhones will ever support, Android will be a requirement for mobile payments over here. I'd be happy to see Apple prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath for that. I need to go for something that works now. However, I'm not exactly happy about having to deal with known vulnerabilities being unpatched on my phone for I don't know how long. Luckily there are some additional defences in the current Android systems so that exploiting the vulnerabilities isn't that straightforward, but still I'd prefer having the known flaws patched in a timely manner.
 

mib1800

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i know many colleagues, friends and acquaintances who moved over to Android from iPhone and never went back to iPhone.
I used to be a handful who use Android in a sea of iPhones, but now everywhere I turn are androids. But I do notice higher proportion of kids and teenagers are using iPhone compared to adults.
 

Nilhum

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Oh, on the design of the 7 plus. IMO, I don't think it looks outdated at all, especially the Jet Black. When I had my 7 plus Jet Black and went in to see the S8, I didn't say "Gee, that looks outdated". The iPhone 7 looks very refined. The white versions I think looks ugly now due to the Bezels sticking out like a thumb. But the Black, especially Jet Black, it all melds together and looks nice.
 
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epicrayban

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Part of the high cost of the iPhone 8? 3D Touch:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/19/more-expensive-iphone-8-oled-3d-touch/

Component cost for 3D Touch module in OLED iPhone to rise by 150%, amidst rumors of premium priced iPhone 8


Shame when the Pixel has already figured out how to both move icons on the home screen and initiate a pop up list without the need of a pressure sensitive screen. Most other 3D Touch features can also be achieved via long press or simply via software (slide to move cursor when typing, for example, while still retaining gesture typing).

I was initially excited about 3D Touch for the iPhone but a year with it now and it's hardly used for anything truly useful and/or android achieves more or less the same thing easier via software. And now it's going to cost consumers more to keep this tech going under OLED panels.

Perhaps Apple will grow 3D Touch in the next iOS.
 

mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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Oh, on the design of the 7 plus. IMO, I don't think it looks outdated at all, especially the Jet Black. When I had my 7 plus Jet Black and went in to see the S8, I didn't say "Gee, that looks outdated". The iPhone 7 looks very refined. The white versions I think looks ugly now due to the Bezels sticking out like a thumb. But the Black, especially Jet Black, it all melds together and looks nice.

It looks like something you can buy in a back alley.

 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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Is this the most accurate iphone 8 picture yet?

iphone-x-dummy-phone-720x720.jpg


https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-iphone-8-news/?ref=yfp
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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http://www.barrons.com/articles/iph...he-galaxy-and-theyre-not-impressed-1495035756

iPhone Users Have Seen the Galaxy and They’re Not Impressed


Who's worried about Apple, again?

As I've said, the hype for the iPhone 8 will be real.

I'm really not that impressed either. Once the newness/shiny factor wore off I knew it wasn't a great phone for me because of the curved edges and the very narrow aspect ratio, which are significant negatives IMO. My priorities have changed a bit in this last year and I've begun to value things like privacy and timely OS updates more and more. Don't get me wrong, it's still an incredible phone, I just think I'm more excited about the ip8.
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Oh, on the design of the 7 plus. IMO, I don't think it looks outdated at all, especially the Jet Black. When I had my 7 plus Jet Black and went in to see the S8, I didn't say "Gee, that looks outdated". The iPhone 7 looks very refined. The white versions I think looks ugly now due to the Bezels sticking out like a thumb. But the Black, especially Jet Black, it all melds together and looks nice.

The ip7+ doesn't look dated at all, until you turn on the screen. As much of an iPhone lover that I am (well more like a strong liker), I still look at the massive bezels it has and internally shake my head. But otherwise the design is still very modern and arguably one of the nicest designs out, nicer than the S8 IMO. But you can't argue with the screen to body ratio of the S8.
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Part of the high cost of the iPhone 8? 3D Touch:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/19/more-expensive-iphone-8-oled-3d-touch/

Component cost for 3D Touch module in OLED iPhone to rise by 150%, amidst rumors of premium priced iPhone 8


Shame when the Pixel has already figured out how to both move icons on the home screen and initiate a pop up list without the need of a pressure sensitive screen. Most other 3D Touch features can also be achieved via long press or simply via software (slide to move cursor when typing, for example, while still retaining gesture typing).

I was initially excited about 3D Touch for the iPhone but a year with it now and it's hardly used for anything truly useful and/or android achieves more or less the same thing easier via software. And now it's going to cost consumers more to keep this tech going under OLED panels.

Perhaps Apple will grow 3D Touch in the next iOS.

What a freakin waste, of course this will be passed along to the consumer.
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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Part of the high cost of the iPhone 8? 3D Touch:
https://9to5mac.com/2017/05/19/more-expensive-iphone-8-oled-3d-touch/

Component cost for 3D Touch module in OLED iPhone to rise by 150%, amidst rumors of premium priced iPhone 8


Shame when the Pixel has already figured out how to both move icons on the home screen and initiate a pop up list without the need of a pressure sensitive screen. Most other 3D Touch features can also be achieved via long press or simply via software (slide to move cursor when typing, for example, while still retaining gesture typing).

I was initially excited about 3D Touch for the iPhone but a year with it now and it's hardly used for anything truly useful and/or android achieves more or less the same thing easier via software. And now it's going to cost consumers more to keep this tech going under OLED panels.

Perhaps Apple will grow 3D Touch in the next iOS.
So it costs more than 150% for a feature I can live without. I think implementing it through software was a wiser move
 
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Tsepz

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It looks like something you can buy in a back alley.

Lol!

I must say this video was painful too watch just due to how much my ahead was spinning at the thought of trying to get all the parts of a phone in such a vastly populated place like China. Having to go to all those markets etc... I would have given up on Day 3 of trying to sort it all out TBH. LOL! I would have lost my damn mind.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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I also know people who moved from android to iPhone. Not sure of what any of this relates to except that people have choices.
I started the iPhone trend at an old company I worked for back in 2012. Everybody was using Android devices and I sold my Galaxy S3 and bought the iPhone 5. I should have got some kind of commission from Apple as I pretty much sold at least a dozen iPhones that year lol.

Since I've moved from that company I do get the feeling the iPhone is the business phone of choice these days. It wasn't so long ago Blackberry had the monopoly there. I attended a conference at the NEC a few weeks back with hundreds of engineers, company directors, sales people etc and Android devices were very much in the minority. This of course is not a suggestion they are the best phones, but perhaps reliable in the field.
 

mi7chy

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I must say this video was painful too watch just due to how much my ahead was spinning at the thought of trying to get all the parts of a phone in such a vastly populated place like China. Having to go to all those markets etc... I would have given up on Day 3 of trying to sort it all out TBH. LOL! I would have lost my damn mind.

Personally, I was rather impressed with how tech savvy Chinese consumers are compared to us Westerners to take building hackintosh PCs to the next level with self-built customized iPhones. iPhone parts in China seem to be common as PC parts here so it makes DIY repairs cheap and accessible.
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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i know many colleagues, friends and acquaintances who moved over to Android from iPhone and never went back to iPhone.
I used to be a handful who use Android in a sea of iPhones, but now everywhere I turn are androids. But I do notice higher proportion of kids and teenagers are using iPhone compared to adults.
Where I am it's still predominantly iPhones. In fact on some days on my commute it's ridiculous as everywhere you looks it's an iPhone. I live outside of London and it's about 95% iPhone. I think as you go into London you start to see some Samsung phones, when you get into central London it switches back to predominantly iPhones again.

I've yet to see the S8/S8 + on my commute. Interestingly I've started to see the red iPhone 7/7 plus.
 
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5105973

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I'm starting to see more Samsungs around the D.C. Metro area. It's harder to spot the other types of Android phones if they are in cases. I do see a lot of Samsung watches and some Android Wear, now that I know how to identify them. It's tricky because they often look like regular watches. But Apple Watches are gaining traction, too.
 
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