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El Capitan's user ratings even worse than Yosemite.
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OK. Well now it's not working too well
This is something I noticed since El Capitan, this choppiness which happens when opening multiple apps.
To check I literally tried it on 3 different machines.
Overall I have no issues with El Capitan - but I have to use Clean My Mac - to free up the memory once in a while to get the system running smooth.
Tim needs to get serious about quality control. I think that 11.0 was just fine. However, 11.1 was rushed and did haven enough time for beta testers to test it out before forcing it on the public.
IMO 10.11 was rushed solely for a marketing deadline, as was 10.11.1 in order to fix major issues with the initial release; Installer, Mail, MS Office to name a few. So the result was that for some the 10.11 failed, some has issues some both. 10.10.1 has both corrected issue and added issue, with the range being from no problems to near disaster.
I am disappointed that Apple with all it`s abundance of wealth, simply did not add more resources to ensure a smooth transition form 10.10.5 to 10.11 or announce that more time was required to ensure a quality product. As opposed to doing next to nothing releasing 10.11 half-baked with known issues and subsequently rushing the .1 release resulting in more issue for some OS X users.
From my own observation OS X 10.11 will not run adequately for my needs, usage & workflow with Apple`s own software let alone third party applications until Apple release another point release, which may or may not remedy the issues in the OS & Apps. All this I find to be poor at best, especially given the same systems, with the same software installed ran flawlessly on 10.10.5
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Marketing deadline?
I can't recall the last time I've seen Apple market OS X, other than the email campaign announcing that a new update is available.
I've only been on the forums here since late 2005, but it seems to me that the number of complaints about 10.11 isn't any higher than the post-launch complaints about 10.10, 10.9, 10.8, etc.
Wish there was a non-time consuming way to quantitively determine that.
I can't recall an OS X update that didn't cause problems with multiple peoples workflows. Which is why I don't understand why some Mac folks willingly jump on .0 upgrades and .1 updates expecting that they're not going to have problems, and then being so vocal when they do. Apple has never released an OS X update that didn't cause some people problems. Never. 10 seconds with the MacRumors search feature will show you that.
So why is there even an expectation that they could release a perfect OS, but just don't (because of time, money, and/or resources)? When in the history of computing has a perfect OS upgrade ever been released (by anyone)?
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Forcing it to the public? Just because an update shows up on the App Store doesn't mean you have to install it.
It`s tied to the IOS release, hence marketing is over quality, shall we say keeping up, has exceeded putting up. Personally I have full backups, equally I need to see what Apple is doing with OS X as ultimately with Apple you are locked into that version of OS X with each successive upgrade of your hardware.
I have been on the forum since 08, with the Mac far longer and I can categorically state 10.11 has been the worst update to OS X I have ever observed. I have no doubt that previous iterations of OS X have also had issue, however not to the extent of 10.11. In fact this is the first timeI have ever had to do clean install`s of OS X solely due to Apple`s upgrade of the Operating System.
Apple should be getting better at this not "flatlining", nor providing a mediocre service. We as their paying customer should expect & demand more, the fact that many done only reinforces the current tendency...
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They proclaimed this was the new snow leopard , so we all went ahead and 'upgraded'
This is NO snow leopard
This is NO snow leopard
New Apple Keyboard, Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad say "hi!".
Forced upgrade at it's worst.
System requirements for these are 10.11 or later, not 10.11.1, which is what I was referring to when I replied to AnodisSMU:
Again, nobody is forced to download and update.
Giving that most regular folks don't visit Macrumors for fun, I'm pretty sure this discussion will be mostly negative. Personally, I would say I don't see any difference at all. I have a Mini 2009 and a Macbook pro 2011, I have upgraded directly (not gonna waste time on clean install), I have not had any issues with any upgrade ever on my Mini 2009. And I don't just run my Mini for some webserver, or entertainment center. I do pretty much all my work on it, wide range of programming (Arduino, Matlab etc...). I suppose there is nothing much for me to add to the discussion. But I think forum specific discussion/online review tends to be bias, just think about the people that will take time to do a review. A). they are extremely unhappy, B). they are some sort of tech person.
Cheap Shots, Apple should at very least support 10.10 & 10.9 for the same. They don't, way to go...
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L&G lets hope that Apple will resolve the issues that many of us as a community are observing, equally for each issue we must feedback to Apple or they will never know. It`s always good to vent amongst likeminded people, however we also need to advise the provider or little to nothing will change.
Official channel https://www.apple.com/feedback/
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Official channel https://www.apple.com/feedback/
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I agree! The 10.11 upgrade did not delete my data, Safari works quite well and does not crash constantly, Mail works with gmail (and also does not crash constantly). The improvements over Snow Leopard are obvious
I agree! The 10.11 upgrade did not delete my data, Safari works quite well and does not crash constantly, Mail works with gmail (and also does not crash constantly). The improvements over Snow Leopard are obvious
I know, equally his point is valid as 10.11 has been far from great for many of us. It`s obviously difficult to exactly quantify why, however the fact remains.
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When you say "worst update to OS X that I have ever observed", do you mean to say "worst update to OS X that I have ever experienced?"
IIRC, I observed more complaint threads started for Leopard than I'm currently observing for El Capitan.
To me, the volume of El Capitan complaints seems on par with Yosemite, which apparently had a rough time with App Store ratings in the first few months after its launch.
Yes, so comments should be taken in that context, what else can one do? I own multiple Mac`s yet the questions remain the same...
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I know and I agree. I just wanted to put things in perspective.
I think there were more active complaints about Yosemite actually. Mostly in regards to WiFi, which appeared to affect a wide range of people. The negative reaction about 10.11 seem to be limited to folks that use software which has not yet been updated to correctly work with SIP as well as some people that experience issues with upgrading.
Mr Cook in the next update we want to see a penis emoji.
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You got it, emoji is where it`s at. OS stability for advanced users is clearly no longer relevant, as long you can log into FaceBook.........
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May as well play this game again too:
Yosemite adoption at GoSquared: 47%
El Capitan adoption at GoSquared: 27%
El Capitan is certainly not Rocketing into the Stratosphere.
Yosemite adoption at GoSquared: 47%
El Capitan adoption at GoSquared: 27%
El Capitan is certainly not Rocketing into the Stratosphere.