If you still have it, get yourself checked by doctors ASAP!
That can be a sign of a stroke, circulatory problems, nerve damage, pinched nerve, or a mini stroke. Not the time to be patient or attribute it to the phone.
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If you still have it, get yourself checked by doctors ASAP!
That can be a sign of a stroke, circulatory problems, nerve damage, pinched nerve, or a mini stroke. Not the time to be patient or attribute it to the phone.
Good question why not included in phone specifications at THEIR site? MAJOR consideration.
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Recently I went to a knowledgeable optometrist who was interesting in trying to figure out why some people are sensitive to OLED and some aren't. I asked him to do binocular vision testing on my eyes. I have a slight prescription on -0.25 for distance driving. Previously I could not use my glasses for any screen work as it would trigger a migraine. He showed me that my right eye tends to move inwards when focusing on close objects and screens. He added prism to my lens. Initially it was really difficult to get used to the change, but now I can use my glasses all the time for close up work and distance. I have not tried prolonged oled screen time, however my eyes certainly feel a lot more relaxed. Previously my iPhone 11 would cause right eye muscle fatigue (no pain, just slight blurriness). Now with the glasses, I don't get right eye pain and fatigue. I am hoping that after a few months, I will be able to use OLED with the glasses on as the prism corrects some of the binocular vision dysfunction
Ugh. My iPhone SE screen uncharacteristically cracked, and I’m ready to move on to a new iPhone.
If there’s no flicker-free option on iPhone 15 then there literally won’t be a modern iPhone PWM-sensitive users can own.
It’s not like I can realistically keep a device that causes 24/7 persistent headaches/migraines, as much as I want to say that I’ll pre-order and deal with it no matter what.
If there’s no flicker-free option on iPhone 15 then there literally won’t be a modern iPhone PWM-sensitive users can own.
It’s not like I can realistically keep a device that causes 24/7 persistent headaches/migraines, as much as I want to say that I’ll pre-order and deal with it no matter what.
Re: the iPad I did end up buying an 11” iPad Pro, since I do prefer the smaller size and I can go into it with zero PWM concerns. Thankfully I didn’t see a night-and-day difference that blew me away or that left me feeling I’m missing out with the smaller non-XDR display, even with HDR content. That’s more of a plus for the LCD rather than a detraction of the Mini-LED display.
It’s reassuring that the other product lines still have PWM-free options, but again I do want to be able to use all of the best displays and especially OLED without worrying about flickering.
It’s reassuring that the other product lines still have PWM-free options, but again I do want to be able to use all of the best displays and especially OLED without worrying about flickering.
After having the iPhone SE (3rd generation) for a while, I picked up that Straight Talk iPhone 11 deal ($249) and it blows me away how nice that display is. I just wish the phone wasn't so heavy. I don't get the impression that iPhone 11 is slow by any means, but it's only a matter of time. I still use the iPhone SE as my primary phone for when I am outside of the house, but while I am in the house, it's completely taken the place of my iPad. I wish they would have kept developing that phone.
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My iPhone 11 is slowly dying. I need to replace the Battery and the screen. I am despretaly hoping for a better screen on the iPhone 15 series. I did trythe iPhone 14p last year. With reduce white point i could use the iPhone for 30-45 min before my eyes got tired. So I just hope it will be better this year. But my hopes are probably for nothing. I even e-mailed Tim Cooked about this issue. I am really getting desparate 
I haven't seen anything, unfortunately. Expect the worse, hope for the best.
Nope, only that it will use a more efficiënt display than the 14 series. The leakers and youtubers dont care about PWM. We even lost Zollotech.
It looks like Samsung might be reserving their next M13 series OLED tech for themselves on the S24 range next year.
No one can know this. But as Samsung is the market leader in OLED displays and the main supplier to Apple, any new technology from them is a hope for change/improvement.
I mentioned it because it looks like there won’t be any change from m12 displays in the iPhone 15 unless Apple has made any further tweaks in design with Samsung.
Sparrow News
"The Galaxy S24 Ultra, Samsung’s forthcoming flagship set to launch in the first half of next year, will lead the charge with the M13 OLED panels. This innovative screen technology boasts a thinner profile and enhanced visual performance compared to its M12 predecessor. Depending on production capacity, S24, and S24+ may also get the same treatment.
The improvements brought by the M13 panels are not just cosmetic. Peak brightness, global brightness, and color gamut are all expected to receive upgrades, culminating in what is rumored to be the industry’s most advanced smartphone screen. Speculation also suggests that the iPhone 16 series will follow suit and adopt this state-of-the-art display."
I can’t do this anymore with iPhone SE.
Please give us an iPhone 15 with no PWM this year. Otherwise I’m really not sure what I’ll do for a smartphone. I might have to pre-order and if there’s still sensitivity figure out an alternative option. Perhaps a DC dimming Android or a ‘Nothing Phone’?
In other news, the 11” iPad Pro is fabulous and the screen is quite top-notch for a LCD—with no notch, and even 120Hz ProMotion. I have zero sensitivity to Apple’s LCD displays.
Please give us an iPhone 15 with no PWM this year. Otherwise I’m really not sure what I’ll do for a smartphone. I might have to pre-order and if there’s still sensitivity figure out an alternative option. Perhaps a DC dimming Android or a ‘Nothing Phone’?
In other news, the 11” iPad Pro is fabulous and the screen is quite top-notch for a LCD—with no notch, and even 120Hz ProMotion. I have zero sensitivity to Apple’s LCD displays.
That's a good option and I was also interested in the Nothing Phone 2 after reading its specs. However, it doesn't seem to be as easy on the eyes as the specs suggest as stated in Android Central's review: https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/nothing-phone-2-review
Yes, the review does cover also PWM in detail thanks to the author being Nicholas Sutrich. We need more journalists like him.
Be thankful the 11” iPad is working for you as I’m even sensitive to this.
I’m def ordering a 15PM and possibly a 15P. If these don’t work out I’ll be going for a Moto or waiting on Samsung S24 series.
Yep, me too!! I bought the big one first and in 2hrs had a severe headache and eyes killing me. Sent it back got the 11" and zero issues for almost a year.
Let’s all take the next few days and fantasize how amazing it would be if iPhone 15 Pro didn’t use PWM. I’d say, in reality, there is a 100% chance it will use PWM, but let’s enjoy the “what if” right now…
Interesting that the reviewer for Android Central mentions PWM.
I was beginning to feel crazy, or in a minority that’s so constantly being neglected.
The reality is that all of these flickering displays are thrashing our nervous systems, and it isn’t exclusive to Apple.
Even the DC dimming curves don’t look great to me. As long as there’s any flickering, I’m sure I’ll be sensitive—and that’s disappointing.
It’s reassuring to me every time that I am able to use a new Apple product.
The issue isn’t with us, it’s with the PWM flickering that shouldn’t even be incorporated into these products.
I do admittedly have in the back of my head the Mini LED display, but it’s almost certain I would get headaches regardless and I prefer the 11” form factor so this was the smarter choice.
It’s the same process every year:
1. Get our hopes up that a new iPhone means a brand new display.
2. Start using it with blind optimism that the display is slightly better and that this year will be different.
3. Post about headaches that increase in intensity quickly, eventually leading to the familiar feeling of previous OLED iPhones.
Rinse and repeat until iPhone 20. Or iPhone 25. Or iPhone 30.
Seriously, even iPhone SE might switch to an OLED display which would leave no even remotely-modern options on iOS for the PWM-sensitive users that do exist.