Galaxy S4

[skratch77]

Nah, saying "there is always nexus" sounds so bad. I am not going to compromise on hardware if i can run AOSP on better hardware and if google can make a better nexus for masses, not just geeks, but chooses not to.

Team hacksung and CM have expressed their displeasure with exynos already. Many bugs exist on exynos devices because of driver incompatibility.

Qualcomm is different as the sources are generally out and a better ROM can be made. Especially when it comes to camera.

However, this time i am planning to load a debloated and improved touchwiz custom ROM instead of pure AOSP, and load nova or apex launchers. That way i can keep touchwiz functions, have the look of AOSP for the most part, and have better performance.

heres the thing though,samsung stock touch roms have come so far and run so smooth people are starting to use them over asop and just run a launcher over touch like you want to do.

I cant tell you how sick and tired I got with chasing asop roms and losing functions while some new roms would fix a few things you would lose something else.

I have no problem running the exynos 5 on the gs4 with a stock asop launcher and all I want is a kernel to unlock overclocking and I am all set,give me a stock touch rom rooted with a stock kernel that just has overclocking steps added and Im all set.

 

[skratch77]

Good for them - Apple has already implemented huge power savings and efficiency gains in their own designs.....why would they move to designing their own chips, only to move back again?



If they went to the standard, off-the-shelf option perhaps. Apple won't. Have you not paid any attention to Apple in the last few years? They custom design the chips BASED off the architecture for maximum performance and efficiency.....a BIG reason why the 1440 mAh battery of the iPhone 5 outlasts nearly every other MUCH bigger battery on the market.

The A7 will be no different - custom Apple design, with an emphasis on efficiency and plenty of performance to keep the iPhone and iOS smooth as silk.

I know most of this won't get through that spec-loving mind of yours though....so have fun with your Exynos 5! Just know there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Apple implements ANY off-the-shelf or other OEM designed chipset.

you do know that apple a4 and a5 used reference arm a8 and a9 designs right and the a6 is the first time apple made a custom chip right

its funny how you call the makers of the technology off the shelf lol,Its like you somehow think apple can make a better cpu then ARM.

if apple wants to compete in performance it will need to make a true a15 chip and there a6 is there hybrid custom a15,its cant get much faster without becoming a full a15 core
its people like you that bring up the tech specs when they don't favor the iphone but when the iphone has a new chip out after Samsung and beats it you do nothing but gloat on the performance numbers

Just do a simple search on the iphone 5 and its benchmarks against the gs3,nothing but apple lovers gloating about how powerful the iphone is and the second a new cell comes out and smokes it they turn back to well android is all about specs and for the tech geeks

you cant play both sides bro

 

[jrswizzle]

*sigh*

you do know that apple a4 and a5 used reference arm a8 and a9 designs right and the a6 is the first time apple made a custom chip right

My point - why would they switch to designing their own chips and then switch back? I'd reckon their decision to design their own was a major reason they purchased Intrinsity - those decisions aren't made in a day, or even a year.

its funny how you call the makers of the technology off the shelf lol,Its like you somehow think apple can make a better cpu then ARM.

Ugh.....Apple doesnt MAKE the cpu.....they use the ARM arch and DESIGN their own solution to fit the iPhone's/iOS device's specific needs.....hence why efficiency and stability is so great on the iPhone - hardware and software are finely tuned. Quite frankly, I do think Apple can design a better chip solution for their devices needs than the standard ARM a9 or a15.

if apple wants to compete in performance it will need to make a true a15 chip and there a6 is there hybrid custom a15,its cant get much faster without becoming a full a15 core

They don't care about "competing on performance". Look at the iPhone 5 - A6 dual core chip, clocked relatively low (especially when compared to the competing SGS3 - both versions). The iP5 BEAT the US GS3 in benchmarks and wasn't too far behind the international version.

Apple will design their chips to run iOS as smoothly as possible and give the user extremely efficient battery life in a thin, light package. Apple has never, and will never get into the spec-wars....because they (like their customers) know its ultimately a pointless endeavor.

Let me ask you this - what will you be able to do with your overclocked Exynos 5 GS4? What specific tasks will you perform on your phone that will require that overclocking?

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Let me ask you this - what will you be able to do with your overclocked Exynos 5 GS4? What specific tasks will you perform on your phone that will require that overclocking?

This is what I want to know too. The Snapdragon 600 already blows away everything else. What would the octo do that the beastly quad can't do?

 

[skratch77]

apples a4 and a5 were off the shelf reference a8 and a9 cores,they did not mod them at all and that is why I am brining up them using exynos as they have used reference cores from the get go and Samsung ditching the mali gpu in favor for the power vr is a huge sign that Samsung might be building a custom dual core big little a15 soc for the next iphone.

a quad core with 2 a7s and 2 a15s and a power vr gpu used in the gs4 exynos would fit really good in the next iphone just saying and don't be surprised if apple uses Samsung again to build there next chips.

 

[jrswizzle]

This is what I want to know too. The Snapdragon 600 already blows away everything else. What would the octo do that the beastly quad can't do?

It's a statement of "mine is faster than yours" nothing more....a pissing contest.

There isn't a flagship out there that isn't more than powerful enough to run any apps on the market (even more powerful than necessary).

 

[skratch77]

This is what I want to know too. The Snapdragon 600 already blows away everything else. What would the octo do that the beastly quad can't do?

we are getting to the point where you can run a usb mouse and hook up a big monitor and start using a cell phone as a main computer,that is where things are heading
Other then a dick swinging contest and a few emulators people run there isn't much things you would need this much power for but the big little is also getting 50% less power draw for everyday things and the boost is there when you need it

 

[Markyboy81]

Good for them - Apple has already implemented huge power savings and efficiency gains in their own designs.....why would they move to designing their own chips, only to move back again?



If they went to the standard, off-the-shelf option perhaps. Apple won't. Have you not paid any attention to Apple in the last few years? They custom design the chips BASED off the architecture for maximum performance and efficiency.....a BIG reason why the 1440 mAh battery of the iPhone 5 outlasts nearly every other MUCH bigger battery on the market.

The A7 will be no different - custom Apple design, with an emphasis on efficiency and plenty of performance to keep the iPhone and iOS smooth as silk.

I know most of this won't get through that spec-loving mind of yours though....so have fun with your Exynos 5! Just know there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Apple implements ANY off-the-shelf or other OEM designed chipset.

I don't think ios performs better than android, rather it performs differently. In truth ios is no faster than android, but does appear smoother in respect to how ios renders the Ui thread. Android delivers full multitasking whereas with ios whenever the user touches the screen, all its resources are devoted towards completing that process, whilst (almost) every other process is stopped, thus giving more of a fluid experience. Jelly bean has made great steps towards improving this fluidity, whilst maintaining the multitasking.

I agree that the battery life on the iphone 5 is stellar, but then the screen is significantly smaller. On a lot of android devices, the battery size can be increased without compromising the overall size of the device.
Most of the flagship android phones will get your through the day. In fact, in the past 8 or 9 years I haven't owned any device that I've not had to charge nightly, including iphones. I don't think this is a massive issue.

 

[jrswizzle]

I don't think ios performs better than android, rather it performs differently. In truth ios is no faster than android, but does appear smoother in respect to how ios renders the Ui thread. Android delivers full multitasking whereas with ios whenever the user touches the screen, all its resources are devoted towards completing that process, whilst (almost) every other process is stopped, thus giving more of a fluid experience. Jelly bean has made great steps towards improving this fluidity, whilst maintaining the multitasking.

I agree that the battery life on the iphone 5 is stellar, but then the screen is significantly smaller. On a lot of android devices, the battery size can be increased without compromising the overall size of the device.
Most of the flagship android phones will get your through the day. In fact, in the past 8 or 9 years I haven't owned any device that I've not had to charge nightly, including iphones. I don't think this is a massive issue.

I'm sorry - I must have missed the part where I said iOS was faster than Android....

Oh, that's right - I never said that.

In personal use, I haven't experienced much of a difference in multitasking between my iP5 and N4. I'd rather give up something I don't even know I have to get a smoother, more fluid feel.

I'm not making a statement one way or the other - only saying that Apple's flagship runs with the best of them, despite having a seemingly crippled SoC and battery size.....they must be doing SOMETHING right.....and I would say they likely won't move away from designing their own chips.

 

[sentinelsx]

heres the thing though,samsung stock touch roms have come so far and run so smooth people are starting to use them over asop and just run a launcher over touch like you want to do.

I cant tell you how sick and tired I got with chasing asop roms and losing functions while some new roms would fix a few things you would lose something else.

I have no problem running the exynos 5 on the gs4 with a stock asop launcher and all I want is a kernel to unlock overclocking and I am all set,give me a stock touch rom rooted with a stock kernel that just has overclocking steps added and Im all set.

I did notice though, when i loaded slimbean (AOSP based) ROM on my S3 a while back, the performance was great compared to touchwiz. When i flashed back to stock, the first thought that came to my mind was "how come i thought this was the best performance?". The AOSP ROMs really fly compared to skinned and bloated ones. It also helps that the camera and everything else functioned great. Just that many touchwiz specific features were missing.

I also found after using Nexus 4 that 4.2.2 fixed what i didn't like in 4.1.1 (that was when i flashed the slimbean, now it is at 4.2.2 but i don't have a S3 lol). The stock clock app in particular went from mediocre to pretty decent and some under the hood improvements were nicer too. Hence i have warmed up to the idea of running a 4.2.2 AOSP ROM even if i lose some of the touchwiz. Time will tell though.

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I agree that the battery life on the iphone 5 is stellar

I would say that depends. Back when the jailbreak was no where in sight i got some great battery life. Now with only a handful of tweaks (activator, zephyr, auxo, folder enhancer, pwntunes, NCsettings, and iFile), i have half the battery life. Reading a PDF for an hour used to drop 15% before, now it drops 20%. The Nexus 4 at 4.2.2 when i had it, was pretty much 30 minutes to an hour of screen time less only, compared to non-jailbroken iPhone 5 where the iPhone would have killed the Nexus 4.

And that is the killer. Using an iPhone stock is so annoying for me that i refuse to go back to stock. I have done the resets/restarts/reinstalls etc in the last month and the phone still gives same battery life, seems to me if you want a more flexible device, something gotta give and perhaps that is why androids, blackberries etc are struggling with it but that is how i want to use my smartphone. So it is no where as stellar when i use my phone like i want to.

despite having a seemingly crippled SoC and battery size.....they must be doing SOMETHING right.....and I would say they likely won't move away from designing their own chips.

A6 is not crippled by any means. It is probably why i also get only 3 hours of straight gaming battery life if i play heavy titles like FIFA 13 on the iPhone which push the GPU/Processor, which shows how power hungry it can get. Playing FIFA on iPHone 4 was still a 4-4.5 hour affair, thanks to a less powerful and less power hungry processor.

 

[daneoni]

I would say that depends. Back when the jailbreak was no where in sight i got some great battery life. Now with only a handful of tweaks (activator, zephyr, auxo, folder enhancer, pwntunes, NCsettings, and iFile), i have half the battery life. Reading a PDF for an hour used to drop 15% before, now it drops 20%. The Nexus 4 at 4.2.2 when i had it, was pretty much 30 minutes to an hour of screen time less only, compared to non-jailbroken iPhone 5 where the iPhone would have killed the Nexus 4.

Thats the fault of JB software not the phone though.

 

[Tinmania]

we are getting to the point where you can run a usb mouse and hook up a big monitor and start using a cell phone as a main computer,that is where things are heading

In theory that sounds great. In fact I tried just that with my Note 2--with a keyboard too. It worked very well. Then I got a phone call.



Michael

 

[Dmaynard83]

you do know that apple a4 and a5 used reference arm a8 and a9 designs right and the a6 is the first time apple made a custom chip right

its funny how you call the makers of the technology off the shelf lol,Its like you somehow think apple can make a better cpu then ARM.

if apple wants to compete in performance it will need to make a true a15 chip and there a6 is there hybrid custom a15,its cant get much faster without becoming a full a15 core
its people like you that bring up the tech specs when they don't favor the iphone but when the iphone has a new chip out after Samsung and beats it you do nothing but gloat on the performance numbers

Just do a simple search on the iphone 5 and its benchmarks against the gs3,nothing but apple lovers gloating about how powerful the iphone is and the second a new cell comes out and smokes it they turn back to well android is all about specs and for the tech geeks

you cant play both sides bro

I have a note 2 but I came from a iPhone 5 and I have to say the iPhone is much more smoother which is probably why people are saying the iPhone is more powerful

 

[adder7712]

what phone you got? and does that work for other notifications?

Galaxy S III.

Only texts as far as I know, WhatsApp notifications do not light up the screen and will only illuminate the LED notification light if enabled.

 

[Tinmania]

Galaxy S III.

Only texts as far as I know, WhatsApp notifications do not light up the screen and will only illuminate the LED notification light if enabled.

If you enable pop-ups, either always, or only when screen is off, Whatsapp will turn on the screen and let you reply right there.





Michael

 

[Fernandez21]

Just do a simple search on the iphone 5 and its benchmarks against the gs3,nothing but apple lovers gloating about how powerful the iphone is and the second a new cell comes out and smokes it they turn back to well android is all about specs and for the tech geeks

you cant play both sides bro

You do realize the poster your replying to probably had nothing to do with those posts, so i don't get how you can claim he's playing both sides.

Some random fanboys posting on a message board do not represent the opinions of everyone else who also likes those products.

 

[The Game 161]

Galaxy S III.

Only texts as far as I know, WhatsApp notifications do not light up the screen and will only illuminate the LED notification light if enabled.

Guessing still lights up when on silent?

 

[jrswizzle]

Just do a simple search on the iphone 5 and its benchmarks against the gs3,nothing but apple lovers gloating about how powerful the iphone is and the second a new cell comes out and smokes it they turn back to well android is all about specs and for the tech geeks

you cant play both sides bro

You do realize the poster your replying to probably had nothing to do with those posts, so i don't get how you can claim he's playing both sides.

Some random fanboys posting on a message board do not represent the opinions of everyone else who also likes those products.

Thank you Fernandez - while I'll admit, I did take the opportunity to make the obligatory "wow, the iPhone 5 beat the GS3 at its own game" remark, I have no interest in the "spec sheet" for the sake of specs.

I never said Android was for geeks - my personal point (again not to be generalized/confused with others' opinions) is that specs don't make a phone great - sure, you need to have a certain level or performance to deliver a great user experience, but to say one is better than the other because it has a faster CPU is ridiculous.

Hell, iPhones have ALWAYS smoked Androids as far as the GPU power goes.....does that make the iPhone better? No.....instead of buying the device based on how many gHZ it has, buy it because you like the design, UI and feature set.....

 

[Beeplance]

According to some post about the different countries getting two different models of the S4, specifically one carrying the octa-core exynos chip while the other carrying the quad-core qualcomm chip, just want to ask from experienced users, will the difference in processing speed of the two models be significant/great?

 

[roxxette]

According to some post about the different countries getting two different models of the S4, specifically one carrying the octa-core exynos chip while the other carrying the quad-core qualcomm chip, just want to ask from experienced users, will the difference in processing speed of the two models be significant/great?

You can upgrade or "downgrade" the processor in the future when its available so either model is fine.

 

[Beeplance]

You can upgrade or "downgrade" the processor in the future when its available so either model is fine.

I don't get what you mean.... -.-

 

[Tinmania]

I don't get what you mean.... -.-

Makes two of us....



Michael

 

[roxxette]

Makes two of us....



Michael

It was a joke guys but im sure in the not so distant future whe will have that option

 

[sentinelsx]

Thats the fault of JB software not the phone though.

I equate it to the cost of opening up my phone to be more flexible.

I figure i might as well just buy an android/blackberry phone instead. Never a fan of stupid locks to protect the rest of the babies around.

 

[Marco123]

Just sold my iphone5 and pre-ordered the SGS4 in black.
Really looking forward to an android phone but although it was hard to walk away from all of the apps and games I purchased on ios, I hardly used most of them.
I hope one day that all apps and games will release same day as ios but the iphone and ios just became stale to me.