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Slight concern adding to the lag concern.

At 15:20 in the review he goes into the memory management section and he is nearly full up memory wise !!!!

On the HTC One I hovered around 600mb used with 9 apps open / backgrounded. HTC Sense shows 1.5gb available (I assume the missing 500 is isolated for operating system and such) so I used less than half of the available ram to me, hence I assume one of the reasons there was NEVER a trace of lag or stutter,

Whereas here in the video he is using 1.5-6gb of the 1.7 available ? What on earth is using so much ram on the Galaxy S4 ?? And if it's all samsung's extra bells and whistles hogging the memory that surely is a bad thing ??

Can anyone with an S4 please check and see how much memory you are using generally. Thanks.

1.08GB/1.78GB with nothing running. It went up to 1.58GB earlier when I had about 5 apps open but it's very inconsistent. Last night it was around 900MB with nothing open and now I've just opened up 7 random apps and it's 1.33GB.

Samsung really have loaded it up with **** though, on my 16GB model I've only got 9.25GB to play around with, is there a way I can just put stock Jelly Bean on it?
 
1.08GB/1.78GB with nothing running. It went up to 1.58GB earlier when I had about 5 apps open but it's very inconsistent. Last night it was around 900MB with nothing open and now I've just opened up 7 random apps and it's 1.33GB.

Samsung really have loaded it up with **** though, on my 16GB model I've only got 9.25GB to play around with, is there a way I can just put stock Jelly Bean on it?

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That is not good news :( :(

And a dramatic difference when Sense on HTC One hovered around 500-600 with 9 random apps.

I really really don't want to micro-manage my memory usage. I thought in 2013 we would have ended the need for folks to get Android OCD ....

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Yep.
 
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:eek::eek:
I really really don't want to micro-manage my memory usage. I thought in 2013 we would have ended the need for folks to get Android OCD

You don't need to.

Just like in any modern OS - be it mobile or larger devices - recently used apps are kept in memory in case you need them again. This doesn't mean that the memory is 'spent' or that you can only load, say 50MB more, before everything blows up.

As soon as other active apps approaches the memory limit of the device, inactive apps are removed from memory.

I have never ever run out of memory on any android device, and of course the same will be the case for the S4.

Using task-killers and other humbug software just slows the device down since it has to reload the app you killed 15 minutes ago from scratch instead of just 'waking' it in its previous state from RAM.
 
To those who have experience with touchwiz, is there any way to clean up the notification panel? Without rooting the phone.

I was watching detroitborg's review (excellent BTW) and one of the things that I noticed was you have very little room for your actual notifications. The "ongoing notifications" section seems particularly unnecessary. Why would I need a static notification that I am on WiFi?!

Anyway trying to figure out if I can live with a phone without stock android. I really like the gs4 hardware and I don't mind how touch wiz looks, but not being able to see my expanded notifications due to everything else going on would probably start to bother me.

Besides disabling the brightness slider (I like that feature a lot) is there any other way to make more room for notifications or is this not as much of a problem as it seemed from the video?
 
You don't need to.

Just like in any modern OS - be it mobile or larger devices - recently used apps are kept in memory in case you need them again. This doesn't mean that the memory is 'spent' or that you can only load, say 50MB more, before everything blows up.

As soon as other active apps approaches the memory limit of the device, inactive apps are removed from memory.

I have never ever run out of memory on any android device, and of course the same will be the case for the S4.

Using task-killers and other humbug software just slows the device down since it has to reload the app you killed 15 minutes ago from scratch instead of just 'waking' it in its previous state from RAM.

However maxing out the ram like it seemingly is doing would indeed increase the chances of lag and app drawer having to redraw etc.
 
:eek::eek:

That is not good news :( :(

And a dramatic difference when Sense on HTC One hovered around 500-600 with 9 random apps.

I really really don't want to micro-manage my memory usage. I thought in 2013 we would have ended the need for folks to get Android OCD ....

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Yep.

If it helps there is a note in the RAM manager that says that when the phone detects it's low on memory, it will clear the least recently used processes.
 
If it helps there is a note in the RAM manager that says that when the phone detects it's low on memory, it will clear the least recently used processes.

I'll be happier if it simply doesn't lag when I get it making me want to check ram usage in the first instance ;) :)

Monday is D-Day or should that be S-Day for me :)
 
I'll be happier if it simply doesn't lag when I get it making me want to check ram usage in the first instance ;) :)

Monday is D-Day or should that be S-Day for me :)

Do you know of any browsers that allow you to go full screen browsing like safari does?
 
Just left best buy and played with both the one and s4. The screens on both are amazing. Personally I felt like the one was smoother. I use a nexus 4 and left like the pop of the screens and the cameras on the s4 and one are the only thing they have on it. Also, i know some others have mentioned a lot of "noise " with the ones camera. I noticed this right away. If I were looking to buy, I would probably go with the s4. The weight and balance of the phone was great. That coupled with a phenomenal camera make it a great phone.
 
Just left best buy and played with both the one and s4. The screens on both are amazing. Personally I felt like the one was smoother. I use a nexus 4 and left like the pop of the screens and the cameras on the s4 and one are the only thing they have on it. Also, i know some others have mentioned a lot of "noise " with the ones camera. I noticed this right away. If I were looking to buy, I would probably go with the s4. The weight and balance of the phone was great. That coupled with a phenomenal camera make it a great phone.

screen alot better than the iphone 5 then?
 

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sweet root is out for s4. time for de-bloat :) the s4 at at&t was ridiculously laggy compared to my international s3 on stock rom.
 
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