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Fernandez21

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So I've been back and forth on this and thought I'd ask your all thoughts so I can decide what I want to do.

So right now AT&T has a bogo with pre-order of the note 7 (actually it's buy one and get $700 credit over 2 years to purchase another Samsung phone) right now I'm looking at 2 options:

Option 1: use the bogo for the S7. The credit would completely cover the price of the S7. I would then sell my Note 5 to help cover the cost of the Note 7, so if I can get around $400 for the note 5 I would be paying around $500 for both the note 7 and s7. And the s7 would offer a change of pace if I want something smaller.

Option 2: use the bogo on an additional note 7 and sell it and keep my Note 5 as backup. Advantages are I should be able to sell and cover the cost of one of the note 7, while the credit will bring the cost of the other to around $200 spread over 2 years. And if something were to happen to my Note 7, I would have my Note 5 to fall back on. But in this case I would never use my Note 5 unless something were to happen to my Note 7, so it would just end up in a drawer, with the S7 I would switch to it once in a while as change of pace (so it wouldn't be sitting in drawer the whole time), but if something were to happen to my Note 7 I would prefer the Note 5 as fallback.

So what are all your thoughts? Thanks.
 

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So I've been back and forth on this and thought I'd ask your all thoughts so I can decide what I want to do.

So right now AT&T has a bogo with pre-order of the note 7 (actually it's buy one and get $700 credit over 2 years to purchase another Samsung phone) right now I'm looking at 2 options:

Option 1: use the bogo for the S7. The credit would completely cover the price of the S7. I would then sell my Note 5 to help cover the cost of the Note 7, so if I can get around $400 for the note 5 I would be paying around $500 for both the note 7 and s7. And the s7 would offer a change of pace if I want something smaller.

Option 2: use the bogo on an additional note 7 and sell it and keep my Note 5 as backup. Advantages are I should be able to sell and cover the cost of one of the note 7, while the credit will bring the cost of the other to around $200 spread over 2 years. And if something were to happen to my Note 7, I would have my Note 5 to fall back on. But in this case I would never use my Note 5 unless something were to happen to my Note 7, so it would just end up in a drawer, with the S7 I would switch to it once in a while as change of pace (so it wouldn't be sitting in drawer the whole time), but if something were to happen to my Note 7 I would prefer the Note 5 as fallback.

So what are all your thoughts? Thanks.

Knowing how you liked to mix it up with your devices, I'd go for option 1. And who knows, having a readily available change of pace might curb future desires to but even more phones. ;)

Ahhh, who are we kidding, that urge isn't going away anything soon. :D
 
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How are phones subsidised in the USA. It seems you have to pay your tarrif/plan and then the extra for the phone is that right ? Here we have different monthly tarrifs and then an initial cost of handset which varies in price dependent on your monthly tarrifs. The S7E for example was €549 initial payment and then €35 for 24 months, alternativly €399-449 initial followed by a €60 tarrifs for 24 months.

The Note 7 will likely be €599 initial and €35 for 24 months on the cheapest Bill pay plan on Vodafone here.
 

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How are phones subsidised in the USA. It seems you have to pay your tarrif/plan and then the extra for the phone is that right ? Here we have different monthly tarrifs and then an initial cost of handset which varies in price dependent on your monthly tarrifs. The S7E for example was €549 initial payment and then €35 for 24 months, alternativly €399-449 initial followed by a €60 tarrifs for 24 months.

The Note 7 will likely be €599 initial and €35 for 24 months on the cheapest Bill pay plan on Vodafone here.
It used to be we just had our plan price which was always the same and then we had to buy our own phone, either full price or subsidized under contract.

Now they give us a discount if we are not under contract on our plan, but phone is no longer subsidized, we either pay full price up front or get an installment plan and pay for the phone over 18-30 months. With the option of trading our phone in for a new one once we've made a certain amount of payments and starting the payment plan again on the new phone.
 
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It used to be we just had our plan price which was always the same and then we had to buy our own phone, either full price or subsidized under contract.

Now they give us a discount if we are not under contract on our plan, but phone is no longer subsidized, we either pay full price up front or get an installment plan and pay for the phone over 18-30 months. With the option of trading our phone in for a new one once we've made a certain amount of payments and starting the payment plan again on the new phone.

Is that trading in your phone the Jump On Demand that folks post about here ? Or is that merely paying off what you owe / financed and getting another ?
 
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Is that trading in your phone the Jump On Demand that folks post about here ? Or is that merely paying off what you owe / financed and getting another ?
Its paying off what you owe and then financing the new phone, so it's basically you selling your phone for however much you still owe to zero out the balance so you can finance another. I find with android phones it's an ok deal, but with the iPhone your better off selling it to payoff you balance with some left over and then financing the new one.

Jump on demand is only through t-mobile and what you do is pay an additional $10 a month on top of normal financing and they'll allow you to trade your phone in 3 times a year, but every time you trade in your starting your payment plan over, which is 24 months.
 
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New S7 came in, right now had to clean it up a little with a smudge that came with it. The sim slot wasn't put in all the way either. Shipped with a generic cheap charger, so definitely need a quick charger for now and a new car charger.
 
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For those s7 users for months now are there any lag /slowdown or excessive battery drain?

Had the S7 edge since release and just sold it yesterday. It performed just as good and smooth as day one, battery was consistently excellent, especially stand-by.
 
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My S7 has heating issues over the last several hrs. I turn the device off, wipe the cache partition, uninstalled apps I downloaded today, etc. All I had were Night Shift like apps and changed my theme to a Team USA one. I hope the "bug" goes away. I don't think it's a wake lock either. The battery is optimized for each app. I didn't notice anything abnormal about the CPU being occupied via battery history. Any advice?
 

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My S7 has heating issues over the last several hrs. I turn the device off, wipe the cache partition, uninstalled apps I downloaded today, etc. All I had were Night Shift like apps and changed my theme to a Team USA one. I hope the "bug" goes away. I don't think it's a wake lock either. The battery is optimized for each app. I didn't notice anything abnormal about the CPU being occupied via battery history. Any advice?

It does sound like a possible fault, has it began rebooting or shutting itself down ?

When my S6 Edge began doing this it turned out it was the GPU that had a fault and it had to be eventually replaced (they ended up replacing pretty much the entire internals in the end).

The only last shot you have would be a factory restore and if the device is still misbehaving after a clean factory restore, then you need to make a warranty claim.
 

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For those s7 users for months now are there any lag /slowdown or excessive battery drain?

I have two S7 Edge phones and both of them are just as fast as when I bought them in March.

I had one of them rooted . These are the US versions so they have the locked bootloaders. I kept one rooted for about two weeks and finally restored back to stock because the lag and usage times were annoying at times. After restoring, I let the phone sit for 12 hours with no usage and the battery was at 96% whereas when it was rooted, it would easily be at 70-80%. Both phones easily go 2 days on standby with 2-3 hours screen time.

I'm keeping both and skipping the Note 7 this year and will stick with my Note 5 till after the new year.

On a side note, I charged up my old Nexus 4 running KitKat yesterday and was amazed at how fast that phone still is today. It was horrible on Lollipop so I went back to 4.4.4 on it and stayed there.
 

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Mt White S7 arrived today. Haven't had too much time to play yet, i have already flashed it to UK BTU firmware (and thankfully dual sim still works) and have transferred over my apps that were backed up from the S7e, however haven't had too much time to do much else. However I was surprised to find the white Hong Kong model really minimal. Has barely any text on the back or front - just samsung long which almost disappears on the white model.

Feels much better in my hand than the S7e. Will finish setting up email and transfer over some music onto my 64Gb microSD later and report back, but initial impressions are positive :)
 

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It does sound like a possible fault, has it began rebooting or shutting itself down ?

When my S6 Edge began doing this it turned out it was the GPU that had a fault and it had to be eventually replaced (they ended up replacing pretty much the entire internals in the end).

The only last shot you have would be a factory restore and if the device is still misbehaving after a clean factory restore, then you need to make a warranty claim.

It hasn't been rebooting or shutting down, it's just really warm for just using a couple of apps. I have been proactive with a factory data reset right now. I am just thinking either I'll get the carrier to do a warranty replacement or go return it to the seller since I have a 30 day return window and then I'll probably go OP3 if that happens. Rather not though.
 
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Here you go

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How minimal ?

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My 2016 white collection (excluding my my black SE which took the photos). Swapped my 6S+ down to a 6S and enjoying these smaller devices :)
 

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Welp, my worst fear is realized with the S7. Safe Mode, Factory Data resets didn't do anything. What the device does is have heat near the power button from minimal usage and then gets even hotter with extended usage. I stop before it can start having more heat issues. I am returning it to the seller. I can get an exchange, but it turns out that there is no coverage with my carrier, T-Mobile. So time to either get a HTC 10, OP3, or ZTE Axon? I really love the S7, just absolute bad luck. I am considering giving the S7 one last shot though.
 
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Welp, my worst fear is realized with the S7. Safe Mode, Factory Data resets didn't do anything. What the device does is have heat near the power button from minimal usage and then gets even hotter with extended usage. I stop before it can start having more heat issues. I am returning it to the seller. I can get an exchange, but it turns out that there is no coverage with my carrier, T-Mobile. So time to either get a HTC 10, OP3, or ZTE Axon? I really love the S7, just absolute bad luck. I am considering giving the S7 one last shot though.
Frig. You are having a streak of bad luck :( Hope you get it sorted one way or the other
 

Fernandez21

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Welp, my worst fear is realized with the S7. Safe Mode, Factory Data resets didn't do anything. What the device does is have heat near the power button from minimal usage and then gets even hotter with extended usage. I stop before it can start having more heat issues. I am returning it to the seller. I can get an exchange, but it turns out that there is no coverage with my carrier, T-Mobile. So time to either get a HTC 10, OP3, or ZTE Axon? I really love the S7, just absolute bad luck. I am considering giving the S7 one last shot though.
That's the exact same thing happening with my S7. What sucks is AT&T says they can't exchange it, only option is to go through warrantee or return for a different phone, but I've really enjoyed this smaller handset. They told me at the warrantee center I could request a new one from their stock, but it's up to them if they replace it with a new one or with a warrantee unit.

Also, I would have to replicate the problem with them and they would have to deem it faulty, which is going to be tough.
 

Fernandez21

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Here you go

feaffc5305c9436acd8b2bbd355ff0b8.jpg

e454d234963a4fa03b7653a17ba1b9c6.jpg


How minimal ?

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My 2016 white collection (excluding my my black SE which took the photos). Swapped my 6S+ down to a 6S and enjoying these smaller devices :)
Looking good. I always like the look of weight handsets, but I always find the weight borders (or any colored border) distracting.

Are you missing having a phablet? I always enjoy using a small phone, but ultimately miss having a larger screen that I end up going back.
 
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Looking good. I always like the look of weight handsets, but I always find the weight borders (or any colored border) distracting.

Are you missing having a phablet? I always enjoy using a small phone, but ultimately miss having a larger screen that I end up going back.
Surprisingly no I'm not missing a phablet at all. Indeed when I've been using my SE the HTC 10 feels ginormous.

Besides I have my iPad Pro 12.9 for massive fixes.
 

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That's the exact same thing happening with my S7. What sucks is AT&T says they can't exchange it, only option is to go through warrantee or return for a different phone, but I've really enjoyed this smaller handset. They told me at the warrantee center I could request a new one from their stock, but it's up to them if they replace it with a new one or with a warrantee unit.

Also, I would have to replicate the problem with them and they would have to deem it faulty, which is going to be tough.

So sgoul
That's the exact same thing happening with my S7. What sucks is AT&T says they can't exchange it, only option is to go through warrantee or return for a different phone, but I've really enjoyed this smaller handset. They told me at the warrantee center I could request a new one from their stock, but it's up to them if they replace it with a new one or with a warrantee unit.

Also, I would have to replicate the problem with them and they would have to deem it faulty, which is going to be tough.

Should I get another S7? It's in like new condition, but only has Samsung warranty and nothing with T-Mobile. Samsung requires repairs all the time. It's another risk again. Prefer the S7, but I can't find a retailer deal for the S7 below $500.
 

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So sgoul


Should I get another S7? It's in like new condition, but only has Samsung warranty and nothing with T-Mobile. Samsung requires repairs all the time. It's another risk again. Prefer the S7, but I can't find a retailer deal for the S7 below $500.
Not sure, at this point I'm not sure if that's normal or not. Haven't heard many complain about over heating and I know my S7 edge never ran that hot. But the guys at AT&T seemed insistent that was normal as long as the phone didn't shut itself down and there was no battery drain, and I also remember Samsung had to use liquid cooling for the phone, so maybe with the smaller form factor it's suppose to run hot?
 

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Not sure, at this point I'm not sure if that's normal or not. Haven't heard many complain about over heating and I know my S7 edge never ran that hot. But the guys at AT&T seemed insistent that was normal as long as the phone didn't shut itself down and there was no battery drain, and I also remember Samsung had to use liquid cooling for the phone, so maybe with the smaller form factor it's suppose to run hot?

Didn't do that with the old S7 I had that I returned due to signal issues.
 
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