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I didn't realize anything above 128gb was available for so cheap. I took a look and found that Sandisk makes a 200gb for $89.95 and with 90read and 15write(according to reviewers). Will be getting this one.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ


Thanks for putting that in my mind... :D

Gonna grab this one myself. 90MB/s write and awesome Samsung quality. I've just had one to many Lexar and SanDisk cards fail on me. Never had a single issue with any of my Evo cards.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...hite/4713100.p?id=1219807037153&skuId=4713100
 

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Third party keyboards that don't lag on other phones doesn't show any area where Samsung could improve here? Interesting.

Well I doubt if anyone of knows if a specific third party keyboard or app is lag free on every other phone. Then you have to factor in what's running in the background. I had slight lag on my S6 edge at first, as soon as I disabled the "T-mobile My Account" app, my S6 edge ran completely smooth ever since.
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Gonna grab this one myself. 90MB/s write and awesome Samsung quality. I've just had one to many Lexar and SanDisk cards fail on me. Never had a single issue with any of my Evo cards.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...hite/4713100.p?id=1219807037153&skuId=4713100

I never used a Samsung card before. Might give it a try as I'm looking to get two cards anyways. I probably go for the the 200gb card and also the one you linked. I have several 32gb and 64gb cards, but that storage is just not cutting it anymore.
 
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Re MicroSD & 4K recording.

Class 10 is only the starting point to look for. Class 10/1 is vastly slower than a Class 10/3

So it's the second digit you want to pay attention too.

Some OEM's will label faster cards as x666 or X1000 with each being sequentially faster.

Re : the Amazon link posted.

Sandisk ULTRA has a maximum read speed of 90mb (in testing is often around 40-45) but a write speed averages only around 15-20mb. This is a Class 10/1 card and why it's substantially cheaper than Sandisks pro cards.

Sandisk Extreme Plus and Extreme Pro are the faster Class 10/3+ cards. With Extreme Pro being their fastest X1000 speed card.

You won't get the faster extreme pro or plus in 200gb but here's the 64gb version

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00NU...200_QL40&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+micro+s


These extreme plus and pro versions in my testing allow much more 4K recording without device overheating. Can shoot 3 times the length on my Z5 with one of the faster cards than with internal storage or slower micro SD. Likewise our professional Sony pro cams we only use x666 or x1000 (class 10/3) cards.
 
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How likely are an always on screen and 3D Touch feature?
Always on screen is almost certain. 90% reliability.

3D touch? It has been a while since that rumor cropped up and it hasn't been confirmed since (in anything I have read, that I would consider reliable). I give this a 50/50 split on odds. Only reason anyone mentioned this at all is because Samsung always wants to have parity with Apple features.
 

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I wouldn't be none too sad if the S7 is missing 3D Touch. I still believe it's fairly useless on Android. Maybe apps can take advantage of it, I suppose. I'm fine if Samsung skips on that.
 

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I hope Samsung leaves out that force touch gimmick since I prefer effortless so anything that requires force is a fail. Tried the force touch trackpad on rMB and hated it. Much prefer tap instead of click, double-tap instead of click-hold to drag, long press menu selection instead of force touch, etc. plus it's easier for one-handed use.
 
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Funny situation w/ the S7. Photos show a micro-USB slot in "leaked photos," but I am still resistant to saying it is all but confirmed. I still think USB Type C is possible, especially with the chargers in another photo. Plus, Sunday is so close too.
 

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Funny situation w/ the S7. Photos show a micro-USB slot in "leaked photos," but I am still resistant to saying it is all but confirmed. I still think USB Type C is possible, especially with the chargers in another photo. Plus, Sunday is so close too.
USB-C is doubtful for the S7 variants. One reason: Gear VR. The Gear VR uses micro USB to connect to the phone and I have already seen literature that the S7 is compatible with the Gear VR. The S8 will have a redesign and t!hen move to USB-C. But micro USB is staying for one more generation of Samsung flagship phones.
 
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USB-C is doubtful for the S7 variants. One reason: Gear VR. The Gear VR uses micro USB to connect to the phone and I have already seen literature that the S7 is compatible with the Gear VR. The S8 will have a redesign and t!hen move to USB-C. But micro USB is staying for one more generation of Samsung flagship phones.
I really hope they use USB for the Note 6.
 

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I hope Samsung leaves out that force touch gimmick since I prefer effortless so anything that requires force is a fail. Tried the force touch trackpad on rMB and hated it. Much prefer tap instead of click, double-tap instead of click-hold to drag, long press menu selection instead of force touch, etc. plus it's easier for one-handed use.

I like force touch on my MBP. The artificial feedback feels like the real thing. I can envision several uses for it on the S7 that would take longer with a long press or double click.
 

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If the only thing missing from the S7 is USB-C, I'll take it!

I would like to see USB-C cause I think I'm ready to transition to it, but I'm also fine without. And it's far from a deal-breaker if everything else comes true.

I think I also read somewhere that USB-C can't be made waterproof with an open port...? Or something regarding staying with micro USB to have an waterproof open-port.

And hey, it saves me the headache of having to switch out all the cables at home, at work, in the car, etc. So I'm okay with it!
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Sounds very promising.

The two Samsung handsets will ship with Android 6.0 Marshmallow with Samsung’s software overlay, now lighter than ever before, facing the user. That’s not surprising at all. But this time things are different because the company has really worked on getting rid of the software features users have no use for unless intentionally seeking them out. It explains why various Samsung apps have made the move to the Play Store or the Galaxy Apps hub. Aside from allowing an easier update process, Samsung can let users pick and choose which apps they want to use.


BUT THIS SUCKS:

In terms of internal storage, Samsung will only be selling a 32GB model in the United States.
 

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Tbh we had exact same pronouncements (many of them in fact) before the S6 launch.

In the end whilst some Samsung apps were removed they were substituted by others like Microsoft's. Indeed the Note 4 had an average of 48 pre-installed apps and then during the hype of the S6 we were told they had removed tons of them and it still launched with up to 52 apps pre-installed and that's excluding carrier apps.

But to be honest that's by the by as it's not the pre-installed apps that are the issue on concern, but the backbone of redundant legacy stuff. That's what we need confirmation has been addressed and i would imagine it won't be until it lands in users hands that we discover if this has happened.

Last year's devices where the heaviest Samsung devices system memory utilisation wise, despite the pre launch proclamations of the media.

It's looking good, but everyone last year were far too eager to count their Samsung chickens well before they hatched.

That being said I'm hopeful, but not willing to throw praises in the air before they have been earned.
 

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Do microSD cards fail often?

Can I set pictures to automatically and always save to a microSD card?
 

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Do microSD cards fail often?

Can I set pictures to automatically and always save to a microSD card?
Cheap ones, yes... More expensive not so much but can still do so. There are a ton of rip off clone MicroSDs. Any shop or store selling them cheaper than the average, the chances are they are bogus ones from China. Buy from a reputable store (rather than marketplace sellers or ebay).. The clones are very convincing ..

Always use a SD Card checker app to verify them. It will tell you if it's genuine or fake.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.humanlogic.sdi
 
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Tbh we had exact same pronouncements (many of them in fact) before the S6 launch. Whilst some Samsung apps were removed they were substituted by others like Microsoft's. Indeed the Note 4 had an average of 48 pre-installed apps and then during the hype of the S6 we were told they had removed tons of them and it still launched with up to 52 apps pre-installed and that's excluding carrier apps.

But to be honest that's by the by as it's not the pre-installed apps that are the issue on concern, but the backbone of redundant legacy stuff. That's what we need confirmation has been addressed and i would imagine it won't be until it lands in users hands that we discover if this has happened.

It's looking good, but everyone last year were far too eager to count their Samsung chickens well before they hatched.

That being said I'm hopeful, but not willing to throw praises in the air before they have been earned.

What do the redundant legacy stuff do exactly that is so harmful?

Last year, Samsung said they toned down TouchWiz, and they did, no? Compared to the S5 Touchwiz? I never owned a Samsung device prior to S6, so I don't know.

I guess I still don't see the big deal about the legacy stuff. TW as is hardly ever lags. A lot of the undesirable apps can be disabled (can the same be said of undesirable iOS apps?). The RAM issue power users have isn't related to the legacy stuff, is it? Like I said, everything I've read about the RAM thing is that it's intentionally designed that way. Nobody really knows why though.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Just trying to understand the issue better.

I'm all for TouchWiz getting even slimmer and optimized even better, but I don't want to see TW stripped of its features. I still wish there was that tilt-to-scroll feature they had once long ago...

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Cheap ones, yes... More expensive not so much but can still do so. There are a ton of rip off clone MicroSDs. Any shop or store selling them cheaper than the average, the chances are they are bogus ones from China. Buy from a reputable store (rather than marketplace sellers or ebay)

Gotcha.

Samsung really should still offer a 64GB option. Hate when OEMs try to pull this crap. Sony does this too.
 
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What do the redundant legacy stuff do exactly that is so harmful?

Last year, Samsung said they toned down TouchWiz, and they did, no? Compared to the S5 Touchwiz? I never owned a Samsung device prior to S6, so I don't know.

I guess I still don't see the big deal about the legacy stuff. TW as is hardly ever lags. A lot of the undesirable apps can be disabled (can the same be said of undesirable iOS apps?). The RAM issue power users have isn't related to the legacy stuff, is it? Like I said, everything I've read about the RAM thing is that it's intentionally designed that way. Nobody really knows why though.

I'm not disagreeing with you. Just trying to understand the issue better.

I'm all for TouchWiz getting even slimmer and optimized even better, but I don't want to see TW stripped of its features. I still wish there was that tilt-to-scroll feature they had once long ago...

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Gotcha.

Samsung really should still offer a 64GB option. Hate when OEMs try to pull this crap. Sony does this too.
Biggest impact of that redundant stuff is it made the system memory utilisation far greater than it needs to be.

They toned down the 'launcher' and indeed it's as speedy as it's ever been, but not cleaning out the gutters completely, contributed to the memory management issues.

The annoying thing is most of that stuff can be removed without damaging touchwiz and how it appears to operate. That's the rubbish ROM developers remove to help optimise their ROMs and get greater performance, battery life and memory management. There were reports of some ROM makers removing upto 200+ services and redundant files ... Yet still had TW operating like it does (no sacrifice removing them - only a gain).

So yeah, Samsung need to stop cleaning the room by swiping the old rubbish under the carpet and once and for all remove that stuff.

It's not about what your seeing, it's about what your not with TW currently.

System memory utilisation will instantly be reduced if they do, and net result is only good. No mobile OS should be heavier than a desktop OS, but TW current actually uses more ram for system than Windows 7 ....
 
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Do microSD cards fail often?

Can I set pictures to automatically and always save to a microSD card?
Any Harddrive can fail or have the software corrupted. I always back up to Google Drive or One Drive though, so never a concern.

TBH though, internal storage is no longer a concern with Android 6.0, as long as there is an SD card slot. Using an UHS CLASS 3 SD card will give you expandable storage near equivalent to the internal storage read/write speeds.
 
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Biggest impact of that redundant stuff is it made the system memory utilisation far greater than it needs to be.

They toned down the 'launcher' and indeed it's as speedy as it's ever been, but not cleaning out the gutters completely, contributed to the memory management issues.

The annoying thing is most of that stuff can be removed without damaging touchwiz and how it appears to operate. That's the rubbish ROM developers remove to help optimise their ROMs and get greater performance, battery life and memory management. There were reports of some ROM makers removing upto 200+ services and redundant files ... Yet still had TW operating like it does (no sacrifice removing them - only a gain).

So yeah, Samsung need to stop cleaning the room by swiping the old rubbish under the carpet and once and for all remove that stuff.

It's not about what your seeing, it's about what your not with TW currently.

System memory utilisation will instantly be reduced if they do, and net result is only good. No mobile OS should be heavier than a desktop OS, but TW current actually uses more ram for system than Windows 7 ....

I'm always down for greater performance and battery, so I'm with ya. I guess I don't feel the effect of these legacy issues when I use TW. I'm also not a power user, though.

However, I'll say, I don't foresee Samsung cleaning this up these legacy things time around, either.
 
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Yup, Gear VR made that a certainty until at least the Note 6.

The rest of the changes are pretty compelling to me.

Bigger battery? OK. SD card? Alright then. Better camera? Home run.

The rest of the rumours are just a bonus or not deal breakers. 3D touch I don't care for but I guess someone's going to do it sooner or later. Waterproofing is nice as is a lighter TW but I don't have an issue with the TW Note 5. Do like a curved back à la Note 5, though.

If they step ahead again with the camera, it's gonna leave the iPhone in particular with a lot of catching up to do. I'm gonna be hard pressed to not front up the money on launch day if this all bears true.
 

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Yup, Gear VR made that a certainty until at least the Note 6.

The rest of the changes are pretty compelling to me.

Bigger battery? OK. SD card? Alright then. Better camera? Home run.

The rest of the rumours are just a bonus or not deal breakers. 3D touch I don't care for but I guess someone's going to do it sooner or later. Waterproofing is nice as is a lighter TW but I don't have an issue with the TW Note 5. Do like a curved back à la Note 5, though.

If they step ahead again with the camera, it's gonna leave the iPhone in particular with a lot of catching up to do. I'm gonna be hard pressed to not front up the money on launch day if this all bears true.
A lot of catching up to do is an understatement. The S6's camera is already better than the 6s's, and knowing Apple, they will only slightly improve it in the iPhone 7, since it's not an "S" release.

They really should have had the 6s's camera in the 6, then improve the low-light capabilities in the 6s. It's a shame they don't do meaningful yearly improvements.
 
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