Galaxy S7

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I can't watch the video yet. How many apps does it hold?

If it's 8 as the other poster said, that's more than fine for me.

I don't think that means tw hasn't changed at all. Just that they're keeping their ram management design. Which sounds intentional. Don't know why. But if it can hold 8 that's pretty good. When do you need 8+ apps all fresh and ready?

And even so, isn't the refresh like a split second? That temporary moment as the app refreshes. Isn't that under a second?

Is that a deal breaker?

Well it could be more depending on the app. The last app she opened was a demanding game. After she opened that, other apps started to refresh. Plus it was possibly not final firmware, and limited of apps to test.

Even if a device could keep an unlimited amount of apps open, I usually close them out as I don't like my recents cluttered. I just use my recents to work between what I'm doing at the moment.

My main concern is the percentage of ram used when no apps are open. My S6 edge usually sits around the upper 70s.

 

[epicrayban]

@MRU...

Just curious, Tapatalk only erases partially written messages when you're using TouchWiz?

If it is due to TouchWiz's RAM management, doesn't that mean it'll have to be 8+ apps away for Tapatalk to refresh and lose the partial message? Or does Tapatalk lose the partial message even if you app switch between 1 or 2 other apps, then come back to Tapatalk?

Because if it does refresh (and lose your partial message) under 8 apps, could that just be how Tapatalk is? Could it be on the app's end? Does Tapatalk lose partial messages under 8 apps on other devices? Can you recreate that same thing even after 8+ apps, like 10-12 as you're accustomed to, on another device?

Just very curious because that's a pretty harsh deal-breaker if the condition is that Tapatalk refreshes your partial message if you should switch to 8+ apps away.

If it's doing it under 8 apps, then is it really TouchWiz's fault?

All genuine questions.

 

[MRU]

Never understood the need to keep 12 to 14 apps ready in the background ? I rarely ever use the Multitasking button on my Android phones, if anything I mainly use it close down all those apps running and taking up power in the background. I like zero running processes. Yeah having few ready to go to instantly is nice, but I'd say that's maybe 4 or 5 for me personally, never once ever needing or wanting 12 apps ready in the background. Just for me, nothing I need.

The point surely is though that nearly all other android devices don't have this forced limitation even with less ram.

Whilst it's great that it won't affect you personally and that makes the S7 & Edge perfect, it doesn't negate the impact for others that are affected sadly.

Like I say I routinely have 10-12 apps open from messaging (hangouts, messaging, Facebook messenger) / social media apps (Twitter/Facebook/Google+) / photos & editing (gallery, photos, Snapseed) / calendar and task (to-do) manager and then likes of google play music, YouTube or newsstand and Reddit ... Then factor in standards like contacts, dialler and calculator and you can see my app load is easily 10 apps or more ...

 

[nj-morris]

Massive amount of ads for S7 & S7 edge on UK TV tonight ...

Sammy are just desperate to force people to know that this thing exists and is better than the iPhone.

 

[MRU]

Could be the new "Game Manager" functionality had some impact on that. Hearthstone is a beast for resources. Maybe they system closes apps more aggressively so it runs better. Would be nice to see an app count without a game in the middle.

That would actually be interesting to know and could offer me the lifeline I need. I don't game on mobile so if I could eek out a couple more apps, then it would likely be workable for me.

 

[Tig Bitties]

The point surely is though that nearly all other android devices don't have this forced limitation even with less ram.

Whilst it's great that it won't affect you personally and that makes the S7 & Edge perfect, it doesn't negate the impact for others that are affected sadly.

Like I say I routinely have 10-12 apps open from messaging (hangouts, messaging, Facebook messenger) / social media apps (Twitter/Facebook/Google+) / photos & editing (gallery, photos, Snapseed) / calendar and task (to-do) manager and then likes of google play music, YouTube or newsstand and Reddit ... Then factor in standards like contacts, dialler and calculator and you can see my app load is easily 10 apps or more ...

Good points. Yeah Samsung needs to really work on Touchwiz, and seems like it's pretty much untouched from last year. Not sure why Samsung did not work on this "Recents" issue ? Everyone complained about it last year, and with all these good changes Samsung made to the S7, you'd think that would have been addressed too.

Makes me miss the GPE program, imagine a S7 Edge GPE

 

[epicrayban]

Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge hands on: So good you can almost forgive TouchWiz
The best Samsung phone yet might just be the best Android phone too.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...-are-so-good-you-can-almost-forgive-touchwiz/

Article title is a bit misleading. It makes it sound as if they put TW to its paces and found out it's a nearly dealbreaker. Briefly reading the writeup, it just sounds more like the writer has an aversion to TouchWiz in general -- something that is warranted because it was once true, but now really isn't.

Here's all the author had to say about software:

Samsung said little about software during its press conference, because there's simply not much to tell. TouchWiz is still there, whether you like it or not, but it's gotten far less intrusive over the years. The S7 Edge features a larger edge panel—essentially a collection of shortcuts to apps and contacts—that you swipe in from the curved edge of the screen. It works fine, but really it's a case of Samsung trying to find a practical use for the curved screen when in reality it's little more than a flashy bit of bling. Which is fine. Sometimes it's OK to have things that just do a fine job of looking pretty.

 

[nj-morris]

There were rumors that this year's Galaxy S's would be cheaper. Too bad it didn't come true.

These prices, though, are fairly typical. They're not very different from last year's S6 prices when they first came out.

And honestly, for the technology and features you're getting, it doesn't seem outrageous to me. I'd love for it to be more affordable, but it does feel like you're getting a premium handset.

I can't say the same for other premium prices out there (Apple, Sony...).

I would agree, but the S6, which isn't that different, is waaay cheeaper now. Have a look.

 

[MRU]

@MRU...

Just curious, Tapatalk only erases partially written messages when you're using TouchWiz?

If it is due to TouchWiz's RAM management, doesn't that mean it'll have to be 8+ apps away for Tapatalk to refresh and lose the partial message? Or does Tapatalk lose the partial message even if you app switch between 1 or 2 other apps, then come back to Tapatalk?

Because if it does refresh (and lose your partial message) under 8 apps, could that just be how Tapatalk is? Could it be on the app's end? Does Tapatalk lose partial messages under 8 apps on other devices? Can you recreate that same thing even after 8+ apps, like 10-12 as you're accustomed to, on another device?

Just very curious because that's a pretty harsh deal-breaker if the condition is that Tapatalk refreshes your partial message if you should switch to 8+ apps away.

If it's doing it under 8 apps, then is it really TouchWiz's fault?

All genuine questions.

Often the app TW chooses to close isn't necessarily the last one open when you do have a lot of them open. It also gives priority to its own stock apps like S-cal, Dialer, Contacts, Messaging and will close other apps before those. It also seems to choose to refresh apps within timeframes so if you've closed your partial written post for example to go do something else (as life throughs distractions at us daily) and 20 minutes later - refresh, post gone.

On my 6P it will happen but so rarely. I can leave a post half written and leave app closed and do other things, few hours later I'll open tapatalk and the post will still be there ... (Usually I've forgotten at that stage what I was going to write lol).

 

[epicrayban]

I would agree, but the S6, which isn't that different, is waaay cheeaper now. Have a look.

Current owner of the S6. And you're not wrong, the S6 is still very capable and great. In fact, I love my phone and do find it sort of sad/hard to give it up.

But the S7 is shaping up to be the S6 perfected... which is why it's tempting to me. Plus, the S7 Edge is the first time I'm seriously considering a "large" device. So, it'd be a pretty great upgrade even from the S6.

Luckily, I just left the Tmo store able to resist pre-ordering.

 

[nviz22]

If silver was an option I would go for it, sadly not an option for Europe.

I liked my Gold Edge previous more so than the sapphire black Edge + I had, so I know I would be ok with that, but thinking I want to try something different and haven't had a white phone in a while .... choices ....

Go White then. Silver isn't in Europe, what is with all these "exclusive colors" based on geography? Samsung would be better served making colors available worldwide. They even didn't sell the Note 5 in Europe at launch right. Great phones, bad business decisions, lower sales than expectations.

 

[epicrayban]

Often the app TW chooses to close isn't necessarily the last one open when you do have a lot of them open. It also gives priority to its own stock apps like S-cal, Dialer, Contacts, Messaging and will close other apps before those. It also seems to choose to refresh apps within timeframes so if you've closed your partial written post for example to go do something else (as life throughs distractions at us daily) and 20 minutes later - refresh, post gone.

On my 6P it will happen but so rarely. I can leave a post half written and leave app closed and do other things, few hours later I'll open tapatalk and the post will still be there ... (Usually I've forgotten at that stage what I was going to write lol).

Ah, gotcha.

I would not find that to be a deal-breaker. =T Especially not after I consider all the other areas where this device is ranked best or at least top tier.

Such a shame this one issue is robbing us of your feedback.

 

[MRU]

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Makes me miss the GPE program, imagine a S7 Edge GPE

That for would be the ideal scenario.

Give me stock android on it, but give me the option of downloading Samsung camera app and even TW launcher as apps on the play-store...

That would be nirvana

 

[nviz22]

Funny enough, target might have the best deal out there right now:

http://www.target.com/c/cell-phones-electronics/-/N-5xte8#?lnk=ct_menu_04_4&intc=1865090|null

free $100 gift card,
Samsung Gear VR, + $50
Oculus content bundle
when you pre-order the
Galaxy S7 or Galaxy S7
edge in stores or online.*

Almost as good as T-Mobile's free year of Netflix offer.

 

[Dominican]

Funny enough, target might have the best deal out there right now:

http://www.target.com/c/cell-phones-electronics/-/N-5xte8#?lnk=ct_menu_04_4&intc=1865090|null

free $100 gift card,
Samsung Gear VR, + $50
Oculus content bundle
when you pre-order the
Galaxy S7 or Galaxy S7
edge in stores or online.*

is near same as tmobile get full year netflix.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Almost as good as T-Mobile's free year of Netflix offer.

Target gives out gift cards like candy.

 

[MRU]

Ah, gotcha.

Such a shame this one issue is robbing us of your feedback.

The ray of hope is the fact it was a game that sent it over the edge, if I could get a couple more regular apps open (not a heavy game as I don't game on mobile) it would be enough to be very workable and not frustrate my experience / usage.

So I'm not giving up yet. It's too nice a looking device to give up

But I also wish it wasn't an issue that I even have to consider ...

 

[Surf Donkey]

Almost as good as T-Mobile's free year of Netflix offer.

Ah, didn't see that year of Netflix. I'd rather deal with T-mo for returns and stuff then. Target never has any clue what is going on.

Speaking of carriers, I just remembered all the tests we are seeing are likely without carrier bloat if you are buying on Jump or whatever. That has to be a consideration.

 

[nj-morris]

Wow, my dream come true: No Samsung logo on the front !!!! Unfortunately only in S Korea and maybe China. Sigh, one can dream. It looks STUNNING without the logo, wow.

http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/23...-edge-to-come-without-front-samsung-branding/

Wow, that makes the phone look super sleek and attractive. PLEASE do this on future phones Samsung.

Current owner of the S6. And you're not wrong, the S6 is still very capable and great. In fact, I love my phone and do find it sort of sad/hard to give it up.

But the S7 is shaping up to be the S6 perfected... which is why it's tempting to me. Plus, the S7 Edge is the first time I'm seriously considering a "large" device. So, it'd be a pretty great upgrade even from the S6.

Luckily, I just left the Tmo store able to resist pre-ordering.

Feel for you. I could have bought a Moto X or a Nexus 6P last October, but instead decided to go with the pricier S6 Edge+, because it was the one that fitted my needs the most. And I don't regret it. Fortunately I'm not one who desitres the extra bits and bobs of the S7, so I'll be sticking to my Edge+.

 

[nviz22]

Ok looks like Ram performance hasn't improved over the current Note 5 / Edge + and certainly quite far behind like G4/Z5/6P/X Force which can routinely hold 12-14 apps in memory (with less ram) etc ... So essentially it looks like Touchwiz hasn't been changed at all, which leaves me very very conflicted

At the same token, how much intense work do you do on your phone? I hardly clear out my RAM on my iPhone. But I am fine with 8-10 apps in the background. Gaming will be tough, but curious to see the day 1 firmware update having some changes. I mean you could try to get the GS7E risk free on a return period of 14 days or 30 days.

 

[AppleRobert]

Did not get to see one today but I was assured they would be on display tomorrow morning at Best Buy.

Tick tock.

 

[nviz22]

Target gives out gift cards like candy.

That's because people hardly consider them as the first place for electronics. When I go to a physical store, I go to Best Buy first and foremost. That was even before I worked for Best Buy Mobile too. They may have shoddy service, but that price match policy + live demos have been great as a consumer.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Ah, didn't see that year of Netflix. I'd rather deal with T-mo for returns and stuff then. Target never has any clue what is going on.

Speaking of carriers, I just remembered all the tests we are seeing are likely without carrier bloat if you are buying on Jump or whatever. That has to be a consideration.

I used the Package disabler app to disable the T-mobile account app. It's a memory hog. There are several other Tmobile apps to, like caller ID, Voicemail, and TV. But I disabled those to cause I never use them.

However, the Lookout app is excellent and not a resource hog at all.

 

[nviz22]

Did not get to see one today but I was assured they would be on display tomorrow morning at Best Buy.

Tick tock.

I was told by next week by a store further from me. I might call around to get an idea though. I remember hearing the 24th somewhere too. I want to test out the RAM management.
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Ah, didn't see that year of Netflix. I'd rather deal with T-mo for returns and stuff then. Target never has any clue what is going on.

Speaking of carriers, I just remembered all the tests we are seeing are likely without carrier bloat if you are buying on Jump or whatever. That has to be a consideration.

Haven't had issues with Target returns before. I might return my Apple Watch since I don't think it would be much of us once I sell my 6S+.

 

[billy the fish]

Sammy are just desperate to force people to know that this thing exists and is better than the iPhone.

Are you mocking a business for advertising a product? Jeez. .