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The Game 161

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Why is this exciting? Serious question.

I looked at bestbuy.com and the Galaxy S20 is available for just $750, with true flagship chip, 5G, full set of camera lenses (wide, ultra wide, and telephoto), premium material, 12GB of RAM. And Samsung already promises 3 years of OS updates.
In fairness the only thing truly exciting in tech is foldables

Doesn't mean its not worth talking about lol
 
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alpi123

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Full Pixel 4a 5G and Pixel 5 specs sheet

It's saying that the Pixel 5 will have a full aluminium body
 

ian87w

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In fairness the only thing truly exciting in tech is foldables

Doesn't mean its not worth talking about lol
I don't think I ever said that it's not worth talking about.

There will be a buzz of the Pixel 5 from the usual tech sites. But is it truly worth the buzz? I mean there are really exciting techs being done by other OEMs like gimbal-equipped camera unit, under display front camera, auto-focus front camera, etc, yet the Pixel 5 somehow demands the excitement/buzz despite the ho-hum hardware. I guess that's my point/rant.
 
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Cryates

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I don't think I ever said that it's not worth talking about.

There will be a buzz of the Pixel 5 from the usual tech sites. But is it truly worth the buzz? I mean there are really exciting techs being done by other OEMs like gimbal-equipped camera unit, under display front camera, auto-focus front camera, etc, yet the Pixel 5 somehow demands the excitement/buzz despite the ho-hum hardware. I guess that's my point/rant.
The Pixel line has never been heralded for it's hardware though, and if anything it's been discredited because of it's hardware. It's been heralded because of the camera and software experience. And it looks like this version will finally add good hardware design and a reasonable price to those terrific camera and software experiences.
 
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jamezr

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The Pixel line has never been heralded for it's hardware though, and if anything it's been discredited because of it's hardware. It's been heralded because of the camera and software experience. And it looks like this version will finally add good hardware design and a reasonable price to those terrific camera and software experiences.
^^^^THIS^^^^ the Pixel line has never been about hardware. It has always been about the software and user experience.
 

Dmunjal

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^^^^THIS^^^^ the Pixel line has never been about hardware. It has always been about the software and user experience.
Then it should be a lot cheaper like the Nexus was. Pixel 4 was not cheap and had unnecessary hardware.
 

Awesomesince86

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The Pixel line has never been heralded for it's hardware though, and if anything it's been discredited because of it's hardware. It's been heralded because of the camera and software experience. And it looks like this version will finally add good hardware design and a reasonable price to those terrific camera and software experiences.

Agreed. But the issue now is that theres competition in the mid range market. When Nexus devices were popular, they were undercutting the flagship phones and even though specs werent top notch, there was nothing in the mid range market that could compete.
 

Cryates

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Agreed. But the issue now is that theres competition in the mid range market. When Nexus devices were popular, they were undercutting the flagship phones and even though specs werent top notch, there was nothing in the mid range market that could compete.
Yeah for sure. I think the ship has sailed on Google really having a larger chunk of the market than they already have, since they spent a few years trying to be a flagship maker, but they'll continue to have their spot with a group that values what they deliver with the camera and software experience.
 
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jamezr

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Then it should be a lot cheaper like the Nexus was. Pixel 4 was not cheap and had unnecessary hardware.
Disagree.....It has a leading camera and Face unlock that worked better than FaceID. Then above all it has a great user experience .All the hardware specs in the world mean nothing if there isn't a great use experience to pair with.
 
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Dmunjal

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Disagree.....It has a leading camera and Face unlock that worked better than FaceID. Then above all it has a great user experience .All the hardware specs in the world mean nothing if there isn't a great use experience to pair with.
That's mostly software, right? Camera hardware is subpar.
 

jamezr

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That's mostly software, right? Camera hardware is subpar.
you're wrong...Faceunlock is hardware.....then the camera is industry leading and is hardware.....double wrong....
Sounds like you might have to do some research so you know what you're talking about
 
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Dmunjal

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you're wrong...Faceunlock is hardware.....then the camera is industry leading and is hardware.....double wrong....
Sounds like you might have to do some research so you know what you're talking about
And the camera?
 

Cryates

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It's 2020, and hardware specs don't matter near as much as it did five years ago. Google has proven that you can use the same sensor for three years running, and paired with incredible software image processing, get the best all-around image quality. That's proven in the fact that using the same sensor for three years (when we scream for various hardware updates yearly) hasn't even been a talking point.

In reality, I'm not paying dollars to Google specifically for the model of lens they use, but what the end result image looks like. I could care less how they get there, as long as they get there.
 
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jamezr

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2016 is industry leading?
I am not sure is it? The results are industry leading.... FaceUnlock is industry leading Soli is industry leading....
What else you got? I don't care about specs...they are meaningless. Results are what matters. User experience is what matters.
 

Dmunjal

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I am not sure is it? The results are industry leading.... FaceUnlock is industry leading Soli is industry leading....
What else you got? I don't care about specs...they are meaningless. Results are what matters. User experience is what matters.
Agreed. But that's software and not hardware so they should lower the price.
 

jamezr

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Agreed. But that's software and not hardware so they should lower the price.
Not at all.....the AI built into the Pixel is unmatched in the smartphone space. Then the post processing algorithm is the best in the business. You don't have that kind of intellectual IP without spending big $$$ to develop it.
Then again FaceUnlock and Soli are hardware.....You don't know what those 2 things are do you?
 
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