Google Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL

[5105973]

I believe they called it the Neural core.

Ah, thanks! My memory was mush at that moment.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Confirmed that the embargo ends on Oct 14th.

 

[Carlo Aguilar Castrat]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

 

[Ludatyk]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

We can’t determine the quality of the cameras without actually seeing the results. I think the Pixel 5 camera will be on par with the iPhone 12 mini, however not sure with the iPhone 12 Pro..

 

[Shakeal Huggins]

Have you TRIED it? I haven't, but all indications are that this SoC is absolutely capable of handling the use case of most users (and that is reinforced with the "bare" Android on a Pixel). The 865 "works" for Samsung because of Dex. Google has no such feature, the 765 by all accounts will do everything most people need it to do at the speeds they expect. People get so hung up on specs and don't look at how the device performs for their use day to day. We're not comparing a Core i9 to a Celeron here, we're comparing the 2.3 gHz 8-core i9 (SD 865) to the 2.6 gHz 6-core i7 (SD 765) in the 16" MBP. The i7 will be perfectly suitable for most people, while SOME will have a need for the i9, you buy the device that suits your needs.

Could it have been cheaper? Sure, and it will be in 6 weeks when we get the Black Friday sales. Does it seem overpriced when compared to the S20 FE at the same price? Maybe, but you have to consider that the cost Samsung puts into the add-ons on those phones is spread out over WAY more devices than just the one model AND those add-ons often are the reason Samsung would need the better SoC.

Then you consider people like me. I'm on Google Fi and happy with the plan. In order to make full use of the plan I need to have a Pixel phone or one of TWO Motorola phones (neither of which really "tickles my fancy"). I currently have a Pixel 2XL. The 5 is pretty much my only choice for a comparable replacement unless I want to switch carriers, which HAS crossed my mind but then I think about spending more than $30 a month for my cell phone plan and I come back to the Pixel 5...

Thanks for that well articulated response. Great points!

 

[hallux]

Thanks for that well articulated response. Great points!

Thanks, but with the news this week that there are now Samsung phones marketed (and sold) by Fi as "designed for Fi", my final paragraph no longer applies...

 

[drinkingtea]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

$599 would have been perfect. I definitely think that’s the price we’ll be seeing on BF. Even perhaps $499. If it’s $499, I think I’ll definitely pick one up.

Also:

 

[Aneres11]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

Id be very surprised if the iPhone 12 Mini had better cameras than the Pixel 5...

 

[The Game 161]

Id be very surprised if the iPhone 12 Mini had better cameras than the Pixel 5...

Dunno, rumours are the cameras on the new pixel aren’t much of a difference from last year. Will be interested to see the difference. I know the mini will lack a telephoto but main lens should be similar to the 12 pro at least. Pro max will be the one that’s the clear best camera on the line-up.

 

[alpi123]

We can’t determine the quality of the cameras without actually seeing the results. I think the Pixel 5 camera will be on par with the iPhone 12 mini, however not sure with the iPhone 12 Pro..

The video will most likely again be better on the iPhone (as some early Pixel 5 camera tests suggest), but the Pixel has an astrophotography mode, which can make some dope pictures. But it all depends on which of either things is more important to you (not talking about other differences besides the camera).

 

[Aneres11]

The video will most likely again be better on the iPhone (as some early Pixel 5 camera tests suggest), but the Pixel has an astrophotography mode, which can make some dope pictures. But it all depends on which of either things is more important to you (not talking about other differences besides the camera).

I agree. No video will top iPhone. Samsung is just throwing more tech at it in an attempt to with its gimicky 8k but, even that still isn't as good IMO.

I can't see an iPhone camera being better than Pixel. Even the 4 was better than the 11 Pro in my opinion although the "versatility" card will always get played.

The fact the Pixel has always done portrait mode better with one lens than any phone with 2, or 3, or 4 speaks volumes.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Portrait mode on Pixel's seems nearly impossible to best.

 

[Jason2000]

I agree. No video will top iPhone. Samsung is just throwing more tech at it in an attempt to with its gimicky 8k but, even that still isn't as good IMO.

I can't see an iPhone camera being better than Pixel. Even the 4 was better than the 11 Pro in my opinion although the "versatility" card will always get played.

The fact the Pixel has always done portrait mode better with one lens than any phone with 2, or 3, or 4 speaks volumes.

It is honestly a toss up on which is better. I had both (returned the Pixel 4). One minute I thought the Pixel was the best and then the next I thought the iPhone was. I did a side by side with my wife and she never consistently picked one phone as taking the better shots. As far as portraits to me the iPhone is more natural looking. The Pixel has a cut-out look to it. It is too defined on the edges with people. That of course is my opinion. Both cameras are really good and you can't go wrong with either one.

 

[Aneres11]

It is honestly a toss up on which is better. I had both (returned the Pixel 4). One minute I thought the Pixel was the best and then the next I thought the iPhone was. I did a side by side with my wife and she never consistently picked one phone as taking the better shots. As far as portraits to me the iPhone is more natural looking. The Pixel has a cut-out look to it. It is too defined on the edges with people. That of course is my opinion. Both cameras are really good and you can't go wrong with either one.

Yeah, both are pretty damn good, as you say.
iPhone portrait is painful. For people it isn't too bad, but you put something in your hand at arms length away from you and try to take it and welcome too "you're too close" error messages whilst it tries to focus constantly. A mess.

I personally prefer software doing the job instead. That's why I preferred the XR's portrait mode over the XS models.

 

[Tig Bitties]

I'm still kinda upset Google didn't try to compete this year with the Samsung Galaxy S20's and iPhone 12 Pro's of the world. I never expect Google to beat and be better than those two phones, but at least close or on par.

- Flagship processor
- 8GB RAM
- 6.5" screen ( flat ) not curved
- Display as bright and high quality as the S20 and 12 Pro
- Huge battery, 5,000mAh
- 120hz refresh screen
- High quality build, like the 4 XL, and cool design.
- Best in class camera

Make those above specs the Pixel 5 XL, and charge like $900 just a hair under the big guys flagship pricing. I wish we were getting that this year.

 

[Ludatyk]

But it all depends on which of either things is more important to you (not talking about other differences besides the camera).

That's what I meant by it being on par with the 12 mini. With video give an edge to the iPhone, however point & shoot could favor the Pixel 5. It would then be more of a toss up! But I think in the end, can't go wrong with anyone of them.

On the side note... I had a feeling Apple was going to price the 12 mini at $699. Rumors were speculating $649, but it would definitely be a game changer if Apple could get it at that price point.

I'm still kinda upset Google didn't try to compete this year with the Samsung Galaxy S20's and iPhone 12 Pro's of the world. I never expect Google to beat and be better than those two phones, but at least close or on par.

- Flagship processor
- 8GB RAM
- 6.5" screen ( flat ) not curved
- Display as bright and high quality as the S20 and 12 Pro
- Huge battery, 5,000mAh
- 120hz refresh screen
- High quality build, like the 4 XL, and cool design.
- Best in class camera

Make those above specs the Pixel 5 XL, and charge like $900 just a hair under the big guys flagship pricing. I wish we were getting that this year.

I honestly don't think Google can afford to that, obviously they are a billion dollar company. But they don't sell as much Pixels in hopes to pull out specs with thin margins.

 

[Awesomesince86]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

Agree that Pixel 5 is still overpriced, but disagree on the cameras. Pixels will still be better. Their post processing is just so much better than everyone else.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Also kind of find it weird that iphone people are commenting on specs vs price regarding the Pixel. iPhones are notorious for being underspec'ed and overpriced. But because the user experience was so polished it didn't matter. If the 765 does everything just as fast as the 865 plus besides gaming, then most people won't really care.

 

[Vegastouch]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

The Pixel camera is said to be one of the best in the phone industry. It takes great pics. I dont know how much better a camera can be. They just add more features like telephoto and wide angle. You want a camera with tons of features go get a Sony Xperia 5 II.

I dont know how big the iPhone mini is going to be but the name Mini dont interest me anyways.

 

[drinkingtea]

I'm still kinda upset Google didn't try to compete this year with the Samsung Galaxy S20's and iPhone 12 Pro's of the world. I never expect Google to beat and be better than those two phones, but at least close or on par.

- Flagship processor
- 8GB RAM
- 6.5" screen ( flat ) not curved
- Display as bright and high quality as the S20 and 12 Pro
- Huge battery, 5,000mAh
- 120hz refresh screen
- High quality build, like the 4 XL, and cool design.
- Best in class camera

Make those above specs the Pixel 5 XL, and charge like $900 just a hair under the big guys flagship pricing. I wish we were getting that this year.

I honestly can’t see Google going back to producing flagship phones. I think they were burned pretty badly with the sales of the 3’s and 4’s (Google’s own fault).

I can see them sticking to just midrange devices; I think they suit Google’s laziness better.

 

[The Game 161]

It is honestly a toss up on which is better. I had both (returned the Pixel 4). One minute I thought the Pixel was the best and then the next I thought the iPhone was. I did a side by side with my wife and she never consistently picked one phone as taking the better shots. As far as portraits to me the iPhone is more natural looking. The Pixel has a cut-out look to it. It is too defined on the edges with people. That of course is my opinion. Both cameras are really good and you can't go wrong with either one.

I think a fair few said 11 pro max for one was better than pixel 4. I know verge said it was the best at one point. Certain areas the pixel was better though but with the 12 pro max said to be even better camera wise i have to think that will be the best camera or top 2-3 out there seeing as pixel don’t seem that bothered by improving the camera (granted it doesn’t need to) but we will see.

 

[Vegastouch]

I'm still kinda upset Google didn't try to compete this year with the Samsung Galaxy S20's and iPhone 12 Pro's of the world. I never expect Google to beat and be better than those two phones, but at least close or on par.

- Flagship processor
- 8GB RAM
- 6.5" screen ( flat ) not curved
- Display as bright and high quality as the S20 and 12 Pro
- Huge battery, 5,000mAh
- 120hz refresh screen
- High quality build, like the 4 XL, and cool design.
- Best in class camera

Make those above specs the Pixel 5 XL, and charge like $900 just a hair under the big guys flagship pricing. I wish we were getting that this year.

So you want to spend 1k on a Pixel?
Hec I'm fine with them.
The 4a has been a great cheaper phone.
I'm actually loving these mid range spec phones. I don't need top of the line and high pricing.

 

[Tig Bitties]

So you want to spend 1k on a Pixel?
Hec I'm fine with them.
The 4a has been a great cheaper phone.
I'm actually loving these mid range spec phones. I don't need top of the line and high pricing.

Not $1,000. If the iPhone 12 Pro Max will be $1,000 to start, Google could sell a Pixel 5 XL for like $899, but make it a flagship every bit as good as a Samsung Galaxy or very close.

Google should have the two lines, like they have been, but keep the high end XL still. So you have the "a" model for the cheaper and affordable phone in that $349/$399 range, and then make a flagship XL in the $899 range.

 

[michael9891]

So the Pixel 5 costs 699 with a a snapdragon 756 and the iPhone 12 mini will cost the same with an A14 and probably better cameras. I feel like the pixel 5 should be 649 at most

Why are you comparing a 5.4" phone running iOS to a 6" phone running Android? Pointless when they're running a different OS which most people don't tend to switch between.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Google Pixel 5 Hands-on: A Premium Design in a Compact Package

The Google Pixel 5 was officially announced last week, and we can now show off the design of the Just Black variant. Here are some photos!

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