Phones Google Pixel 8/8 Pro

[Tig Bitties]

It's funny, I live in the States, and have had zero problem having my iPhone friends + family downloading and installing WhatsApp and Telegram to better communicate with us Android users. Even older folks that are not techies whatsoever were able to.

So iMessage isn't a must have in the U.S. it's just another text app, and there's better options out there.

I certainly wouldn't allow one app ( iMessage ) to make me feel like I must stick with a phone ( iPhone ) hell no. Actually that would make me we want to dump that device just in spite of said company trying to force me to be locked into their system. F that.

In the year 2023 it boggles my mind that some people say that can't leave the iPhone specifically because of fear of losing iMessage. LOL really?

 

[5105973]

It's funny, I live in the States, and have had zero problem having my iPhone friends + family downloading and installing WhatsApp and Telegram to better communicate with us Android users.

Even older folks that are not techies whatsoever were able to. So iMessage isn't a must have in the U.S. it's just another text app, and there's better options out there.

I think it depends where in the States you are. I happen to live in a blue bubble bubble.

 

[edubfromktown]

Here he is. Around this time every year this one comes out the shadows to entertain us all 😂😭🤮

It IS fun and entertaining to consider the different options- Apple and others. We all should have high expectations!

As with OS platforms, I reevaluate periodically which is why I use Chromebooks, Mac systems and Raspberry Pi 4's (also, "tolerate" Windows 11 at work haha).

Good by me if others don't mind dropping $1k or likely more on a glorified/buffed Exynos, Tensor ?, ... that marketing rushed out of the barn with potentially a hot headed or Abinormal horse hehe

Pixel's have had heat issues though not to the same extent as appears to be the case with the two top iPhone 15 models. At that level of investment, I want something reliable that is not beta testing hardware/software for any manufacturer (Apple, Google, etc.) and battery health that lasts for a reasonable amount of time (skeptical that many will make it 5-7 years).

 

[BMox81]

My reason for wanting to change has nothing to do with any sort of animosity towards iOS/Apple-far from it, just that I don’t want to be bound to one type of phone for the rest of my days, regardless of how well it integrates within an ecosystem.

The 8 Pro looks like a lot of fun (especially if you’re able to get that Blue one) so why not give it a go!

 

[Aneres11]

Good by me if others don't mind dropping $1k or likely more on a glorified/buffed Exynos Tensor ? that marketing rushed out of the barn with a hot headed or Abinormal horse hehe

Sorry no idea what you’re on about.

 

[Tig Bitties]

I called my Brother who lives in Spain, asked him again about his Spanish friends there and iPhone usage and iMessage. He said yeah, there actually are a lot of iPhone's here, but says they don't use iMessage, it's WhatsApp and Telegram second, but that iMessage just isn't a thing there, he said people have no problem downloading another text app besides iMessage.

I guess that's my question, why can other countries use an iPhone, but not iMessage, but here in the States it iPhone + iMessage or die. Very strange to me.

 

[danpam12358]

I called my Brother who lives in Spain, asked him again about his Spanish friends there and iPhone usage and iMessage. He said yeah, there actually are a lot of iPhone's here, but says they don't use iMessage, it's WhatsApp and Telegram second, but that iMessage just isn't a thing there, he said people have no problem downloading another text app besides iMessage.

I guess that's my question, why can other countries use an iPhone, but not iMessage, but here in the States it iPhone + iMessage or die. Very strange to me.

People who use WhatsApp do so out of old habit and not because it’s simply a better product.

 

[Aneres11]

I called my Brother who lives in Spain, asked him again about his Spanish friends there and iPhone usage and iMessage. He said yeah, there actually are a lot of iPhone's here, but says they don't use iMessage, it's WhatsApp and Telegram second, but that iMessage just isn't a thing there, he said people have no problem downloading another text app besides iMessage.

I guess that's my question, why can other countries use an iPhone, but not iMessage, but here in the States it iPhone + iMessage or die. Very strange to me.

I think it’s only the Americans that are obsessed with iMessage. In Europe, pretty much everyone uses WhatsApp.

I am in my iPhone right now. The only messages I have in the messages app are voicemail notifications and authorisation code messages for logging in to places 😂.

Last night I played tennis with a few new people and we decided to make it a regular thing. One of the guys instantly said he’d create a WhatsApp group for us. That’s the defacto method here. It would be weird for someone to say “I’ll create us an iMessage group” 😂 just doesn’t happen.

 

[danpam12358]

The difference is Apple is providing an alternative to WhatsApp for people who don’t want to be involved under the Meta umbrella.

Google doesn’t provide any such alternative and their past attempts all stole peoples info.

 

[Tig Bitties]

With RCS, Google Messages between us 4 all on Pixel phones, seems to work just like iMessage to iMessage. It would just be nice if Apple allowed RCS in iMessage.

Funny conversation this morning with my 15 year old daughter. I said there's this topic of discussion on this website forum regarding iMessage, use, and... "Dad, what's iMessage? " I said it's the text app that comes default with the iPhone, and some people say they can't leave the iPhone and go to Android because they're scared of losing iMessage. My daughter said "Why don't those iPhone users just download another text app then?" I asked her, do your friends ever talk about that odd thing with blue bubbles vs green bubbles when texting? She says "Oh that's what that's about, yeah I've heard about that, but I don't care, I like my Pixel phone, and if it shows green bubbles to others, so what" I said well the photos and videos come in lower res between platforms then, she says "Well they need to download another app then that allows both phones to text HD stuff, so that's not on me, and I don't care"

 

[Aneres11]

The Pixels coming out each year really does bring the Apple apologists flocking to these parts. Every damn year. It’s like they feel it’s their duty or something. 😂

 

[Ludatyk]

I guess that's my question, why can other countries use an iPhone, but not iMessage, but here in the States it iPhone + iMessage or die. Very strange to me.

per @tbayrgs

it just happens that iMessage was adopted first and you need most users to all switch en masse, all at once. And in our case, our initial messaging choice was tied to one platform whereas the rest of the world didn’t go that route. Path of least resistance…

It's not hard to understand, if people in your social group... use a certain platform to communicate then that's where you'll go.

 

[Dave245]

The Pixels coming out each year really does bring the Apple apologists flocking to these parts. Every damn year. It’s like they feel it’s their duty or something. 😂

Personally I don’t understand it, I’ve used Apple for years and I’m deep in their ecosystem (iPhone, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch, Mac, HomePod, Apple TV and Apple One subscription) but I appreciate other devices. I appreciate Samsung’s S23 Ultra even if I did return to iPhone. I certainly like the look of the Pixel phone too, that blue Pro 8 looks stunning.

There’s no point having a blinkered view when technology extends beyond just Apple.

 

[BMox81]

Personally I don’t understand it, I’ve used Apple for years and I’m deep in their ecosystem (iPhone, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch, Mac, HomePod, Apple TV and Apple One subscription) but I appreciate other devices. I appreciate Samsung’s S23 Ultra even if I did return to iPhone. I certainly like the look of the Pixel phone too, that blue Pro 8 looks stunning.

There’s no point having a blinkered view when technology extends beyond just Apple.

This is it. I’m in as deep as yourself regarding Apple but that’s not stopping me from having a change. If only because I’m equally invested in Googles services as well including Gmail, YTP and Nest devices around the house.

 

[Aneres11]

Personally I don’t understand it, I’ve used Apple for years and I’m deep in their ecosystem (iPhone, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch, Mac, HomePod, Apple TV and Apple One subscription) but I appreciate other devices. I appreciate Samsung’s S23 Ultra even if I did return to iPhone. I certainly like the look of the Pixel phone too, that blue Pro 8 looks stunning.

There’s no point having a blinkered view when technology extends beyond just Apple.

Totally agree.
That’s why this subsection of these forums is so great, because MOST of us have the same approach. We like tech.
Sure, some of us have our favoured / preferred devices or OS’s, but we can still appreciate what other companies offer and a lot of us have multiple devices to be able to form solid opinions of said devices.

There’s always a select few who just come out with some utter s***, though, but that’s why the ignore function is so good! 😊

 

[Tig Bitties]

The Pixels coming out each year really does bring the Apple apologists flocking to these parts. Every damn year. It’s like they feel it’s their duty or something. 😂

LOL right

 

[BMox81]

Here's a quick unboxing of the Pixel 8 Pro [Gallery]

New leaked images give us a quick look at an unboxing of the Google Pixel 8 Pro a few days ahead of launch.

9to5google.com

 

[danpam12358]

Here's a quick unboxing of the Pixel 8 Pro [Gallery]

New leaked images give us a quick look at an unboxing of the Google Pixel 8 Pro a few days ahead of launch.

9to5google.com

Hopefully zero curve on the display. It cost $50 for a screen protector that had to UV cure to the curve of the Pixel 7 Pro and I don’t see any benefit.

 

[danpam12358]

iMessage is not that prevalent in certain parts of the world, I live in the Uk and I use WhatsApp on my iPhone and so do a lot of people. iMessage is not the best messaging service, it lags behind by quite a lot.

Does it though? WhatsApp literally only just released HD photo support. The countless times WhatsApp has been down for me the last year is atrocious. It’s unreliable

 

[Dave245]

Does it though? WhatsApp literally only just released HD photo support. The countless times WhatsApp has been down for me the last year is atrocious. It’s unreliable

It hasn’t been down for me, I use it daily. Voice notes are far more reliable than on iMessage. The quality seems better on WhatsApp, I use it on my iPhone 14 Pro Max instead of iMessage.

 

[danpam12358]

It hasn’t been down for me, I use it daily. Voice notes are far more reliable than on iMessage. The quality seems better on WhatsApp, I use it on my iPhone 14 Pro Max instead of iMessage.

The July 19th outage this year was massive. There were at least 2 others earlier in the year.

 

[Dave245]

The July 19th outage this year was massive. There were at least 2 others earlier in the year.

I don’t remember it, WhatsApp as been working for me great. Was there ever any need to disrespect someone’s daughter tho!! You may like iMessage more than anyone else here, but there was no need to make it personal, the second you did that is the second you lost all respect along with the debate.

 

[danpam12358]

I don’t remember it, WhatsApp as been working for me great. Was there ever any need to disrespect someone’s daughter tho!! You may like iMessage more than anyone else here, but there was no need to make it personal, the second you did that is the second you lost all respect along with the debate.

WhatsApp is back online after a massive global outage

Meta’s WhatsApp experienced a major global outage today, but is now back online

www.androidpolice.com

How convenient to forget.

 

[Dave245]

WhatsApp is back online after a massive global outage

Meta’s WhatsApp experienced a major global outage today, but is now back online

www.androidpolice.com

How convenient to forget.

Maybe I was asleep considering I’m in the Uk

 

[tbayrgs]

I called my Brother who lives in Spain, asked him again about his Spanish friends there and iPhone usage and iMessage. He said yeah, there actually are a lot of iPhone's here, but says they don't use iMessage, it's WhatsApp and Telegram second, but that iMessage just isn't a thing there, he said people have no problem downloading another text app besides iMessage.

I guess that's my question, why can other countries use an iPhone, but not iMessage, but here in the States it iPhone + iMessage or die. Very strange to me.

I've explained it adnaseum. You don't understand the dilemma many other US based iPhone users feel because your social circle is not typical for much of the US, especially as you yourself dont use an iPhone. Other countries use WhatsApp with near ubiquity because that's what claimed an early foothold. Undoing that behavior around the rest of the world would be just as difficult as asking iPhone users to stop using iMessage here in the US. If I went and told the dozens of folks I communicate with regularly via iMessage that we need to use something else for our specific communication, I'd probably hear from them a lot less or I'd still just be getting messages via iMessage.

Same situation would exist for @Aneres11 or @Dave245 if you said they need to stop communicating with WhatsApp and instead tell all of their contacts to switch to something else, just for their chats.

per @tbayrgs

It's not hard to understand, if people in your social group... use a certain platform to communicate then that's where you'll go.