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Bkdodger

macrumors 68040
Jun 6, 2019
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Excellent decision! You all in the US get some mega trade-in deals & offers on Pixel's compared to us in the UK & Europe. Best Buy in particular. Makes it a no-brainer when it comes to an upgrade.
It really was an easy choice and we all know that I don't need much to push me lol.. I do wish you guys on the other side of the pond would get better trade-in values..
 

Heat_Fan89

macrumors 68030
Feb 23, 2016
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As someone who has used both the P6 and P7 Pros a lot of this janky poor hardware stuff is totally overblown to me.
And it’s really starting to aggravate me that people keep throwing Samsung and Apple in as devices that are far far superior when in actual fact it’s just not true.
Pixel phones janky poor hardware stuff does get tend to be overblown but it can appear at times. It's up to the user to look at what the phone does really well vs when hiccups appear. Apple tends to emphasize user experience vs what the software can do. So they put extra effort to make sure their phones look stunning, they use the best hardware bits to make sure that apps run smooth. Apple over-emphasizes smoothness over everything else. So their phones don't really excel at any one thing but they do everything very well, which all adds up to a solid user experience.

Like any talented music band that creates "hooks" in their music to get people to remember their song, Apple does similar stuff, like blue bubbles vs green bubbles or dynamic island and they sell that ad nauseam. So what the iPhone lineup has become every year is, a larger rear camera housing, heavily market a gimmick i.e. "hook". The last several years that "hook" has been colors.

Google, IMO has noticed that the mobile tech industry has matured to the point it has become stale. There are only so many things you can do to a smartphone and they have already been done up to and including folding phones. So instead Google has decided much like Nvidia to target AI and software. No companies really with the exception of Nvidia and Google have built their hardware to create AI experiences. Nvidia uses their graphics cards to produce AI results and Google does the same with their phones. All that said, people gravitate towards brands and Apple is on the top of the list atm.
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
5,517
5,692
I have owned pretty much every Pixel XL / Pro phone, and janky, and laggy is not what I would call them, quite the opposite actually, the main reason I buy a Pixel is because they are smooth and fluid with little to no microstutter. Unlike Samsung Galaxy phones that I just saw yesterday at Best Buy, played with the Samsung reps version, she let me mess around with it, and it clearly had very minor stutter or not totally smooth animations, hard to explain but it had something that my Pixel phones never seem to have.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
30,991
20,172
UK
Definitely will be worth the effort, it's a great real world camera test with the best camera phones. I'd prefer to see yours than the YT 'tech' camera comparisons. The only ones I take notice of are the professional camera guys.
Thanks for your support :) I think since starting these camera comparison tests I've seen plenty of interest which is nice. think i had 180 followers when I started and now i'm on 870 ish so clearly people are seeing value in it.
 

Aneres11

macrumors 601
Oct 2, 2011
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Pixel phones janky poor hardware stuff does get tend to be overblown but it can appear at times. It's up to the user to look at what the phone does really well vs when hiccups appear. Apple tends to emphasize user experience vs what the software can do. So they put extra effort to make sure their phones look stunning, they use the best hardware bits to make sure that apps run smooth. Apple over-emphasizes smoothness over everything else. So their phones don't really excel at any one thing but they do everything very well, which all adds up to a solid user experience.
Interesting. My iPhone 15 PM has restarted 3 times on me in the last week of ownership. Smooth isn’t what I’d call it for now. Thankfully, I’ve used iPhones for years so I know this isn’t necessarily the norm hence why I won’t go into a frenzy about it.
But it underlines my point, there’s no such thing as perfect. But sometimes, Google is made out to be the inferior choice despite the fact other phones (flagship phones that cost way more) have issues themselves.
 

War833

macrumors member
Jul 21, 2021
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I have owned pretty much every Pixel XL / Pro phone, and janky, and laggy is not what I would call them, quite the opposite actually, the main reason I buy a Pixel is because they are smooth and fluid with little to no microstutter. Unlike Samsung Galaxy phones that I just saw yesterday at Best Buy, played with the Samsung reps version, she let me mess around with it, and it clearly had very minor stutter or not totally smooth animations, hard to explain but it had something that my Pixel phones never seem to have.
Completely agree. Every Samsung device I've ever owned has been a laggy, stuttery mess. Quite the opposite of a premium experience. It is truly shocking how despite the latest and greatest hardware, Samsung are incapable of optimising their software to the point that the app -> homescreen transition (just for example) is smooth even most of the time. I think Samsung and Apple both use "overpowered" hardware as a crutch to paper over cracks (inefficiencies) in their cr!p software. On the other hand, all my Pixel phones have buttery smooth animations and transitions every time. It's impressive how Google get so much out of the hardware.
 
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jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,077
19,074
US
My cancel option is gone now. I wonder if Google will ship early?


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psp123

macrumors regular
Mar 10, 2015
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Is anyone keeping their Pixel Watch 2 then or is it just me?
I’m tempted to grab some additional bands.
I will keep mine. Time to retire the AW Series 7.
I had the Pixel Watch 1 for a short while but the performance and battery life wasn't good. Hopefully the Watch 2 will be better. The design is really nice. I prefer round watches.

My phone and watch is ready to be shipped!
 

Tig Bitties

macrumors 603
Sep 6, 2012
5,517
5,692
Conclusion:
As we wrap up this, it is evident that the Tensor G3 in the Pixel 8 Pro provides substantial enhancements, addressing previous concerns related to heating and overall performance. The higher brightness capability, improved temperature control, and smoother CPU throttling make the Pixel 8 Pro a compelling option.

 

chad.petree

macrumors 6502a
Feb 2, 2013
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Germany
I'm in 100% agreement with this, people seem to jump on the bandwagon that somehow the Pixel hardware is inferior to both Samsung and Apple and that Google are somehow producing mid-tier phones in comparison. I'll never understand why people think Apple & Samsung are superior products. I had zero hardware issues with my Pixel 4XL and the 4XL was a long time ago.

Let me tell you about my recent Samsung experience...
I've owned my 1TB Z Fold 4 since launch, always kept in a case and carefully looked after it. Loved it. This was due to go to a close friend in Italy this weekend who prior paid for it. However, this week, I opened the main screen only for it to stop opening fully and I noticed the inside screen protector coming away in the middle. I now have the real hassle later this month when I'm back in the UK of filing a Samsung UK Repair to get it collected & repaired under the 24 months warranty. Mega frustrating. About to experience how effective Samsung UK post-sales support are.

A quick Google search and it's a very common hinge problem with Samsung's Z Fold 4. This is 4th generation of their Fold too. So any current Z Fold 4 owners just beware; this issue sounds like not a matter of if it could happen but when.

On the software side, one of the primary reasons I sold my S23 Ultra was the diabolical shutter lag affecting moving shots, particularly in low-light. I've never seen such poor camera shutter control on any Pixel or iPhone. Samsung never fixed this properly.

This all may sound like I have it in for Samsung, I don't and like where they've taken the S series. Their folds are still not yet ready for prime time imo. What I'm saying is, in my ownership experience, Samsung don't always get neither the hardware or software right but this usually gets overlooked by the masses.

To those considering a Pixel, stop basing your views on others judgements, epecially on Reddit, who have likely never owned a Pixel. You're buying into the best software user experience, the best progessive AI and best camera quality on a phone.
I don't think anyone is implying that Samsung and Apple devices are flawless. Samsung's software is a mess, they pretty much invented janky UIs 😹 ... We were just talking about the hardware.

The thing is Google has been charging more and more for their pixel devices and it does use inferior components namely a weaker processor, an inefficient screen that burns through battery and that is dimmer than any flagship screen (up until the pixel 7 pro), slower UFS memory, a slower optical fingerprint reader... The pixel 8 pro costs 1100 eur in Europe, if they want to charge that much money they better deliver! They have made great strides with the pixel 8 pro but still, its hardware is demonstrably worse than both Apple's and Samsung's.
 
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Supersonicc

macrumors 6502a
Sep 7, 2016
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I don't think anyone is implying that Samsung and Apple devices are flawless. Samsung's software is a mess, they pretty much invented janky UIs 😹 ... We were just talking about the hardware.

The thing is Google has been charging more and more for their pixel devices and it does use inferior components namely a weaker processor, an inefficient screen that burns through battery and that is dimmer than any flagship screen (up until the pixel 7 pro), slower UFS memory, a slower optical fingerprint reader... The pixel 8 pro costs 1100 eur in Europe, if they want to charge that much money they better deliver! They have made great strides with the pixel 8 pro but still, its hardware is demonstrably worse than both Apple's and Samsung's.

No sorry, Samsung didn't get the memo on better hardware; my Z Fold 4, previously in great condition, now requires a new hinge and new screen.

So I disagree Google are using inferior hardware vs Samsung & Apple. I previously had a Pixel 4XL, Pixel 5 and Pixel 6 Pro, no issues with 'inefficient screens', no issue using either in sunlight, battery lasted all day etc. Google could change to an ultrasonic FPR but, again, I had no issues using the optical FPR. Face unlock with Soli & the 4XL screen was best in the business, as good as Apple's FaceID, arguably better.

Can you let us all know where you've found the information on how the Pixel 8 Pro hardware components are 'demonstrably worse' than either Samsung or Apple? I've not seen any reports / evidence of this.

Pixel prices have increased, but still cheaper than both Samsung & Apple, including in Europe.

The Tensor 3 is successfully managing heat thermals with the latest reports out, yet you thought not as your in-store demo unit, likely plugged in all day, was hot to hold. I handled 5 iPhone 15PM demo units on launch and guess what? All were very hot to hold. That doesn't make the A17 chip inferior either.

I'm not picking a fight, but not sure why you are here on a dedicated Pixel forum when you always like to contribute negative comments against both Pixel & Google without backing yourself up with actual facts. So based on this, I for one, struggle to take your comments seriously.
 
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