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Sowelu

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Aug 15, 2008
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The same misconception as last year: the X series brightness gets capped due to temperature. The display units are warm and cannot be a fair representation what their max brightness really is. You would need to unplug them and let them cool down for a bit before the max brightness kicks in again.

I am pretty sure that this is only true if the brightness slider maxes out at the halfway mark. If the display continues to brighten from the halfway point all the way to max, it’s not overheated and not artificially dimmer to reduce heat.

Not all displays are calibrated exactly the same, and some are just better than others, even from the same manufacturer. I’ve noticed many cool to the touch, morning displayed Apple Store Xs Max’s with varying contrast, brightness and color shifts, all at 100%, auto brightness turned off, and of course with True Tone disabled.

I swapped my Max due to raised sharp edges, and side by side, both from cold boots, the replacement had a way better display. It also had noticeably better contrast, color temperature and was a bit more vibrant and a smidge brighter (not to mention nice and smooth edges, which is why I swapped it). So needless to say, I walked out very happy with my replacement.

Bottom line, if you’re not happy with the display on your $1200 phone, swap it. The variances are not illusion.
 

Waziti

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2018
9
2
Yeah, I’m debating on swapping. But the apple store I went to yesterday said they would not replace my XS Max with the yellow tint problem because “it’s not a known issue yet.” So I walked out without a replacement, but I could get a express replacement shipped to me, but who’s to say I won’t have the same problem with that one? I wanted to just return it to T-Mobile, but none of them around me have anymore XS Max’s in stock. So I’m not sure what to do at this point.
 

davec25

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Sep 26, 2018
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you don't need a reason for returning within 14 days
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Bottom line, if you’re not happy with the display on your $1200 phone, swap it. The variances are not illusion.

I think this is what it comes down to for me. It's annoying me regardless of how it compares to floor models. If I do return it, do I then have 14 days from the exchange date?
 

madKIR

macrumors 6502a
Feb 2, 2010
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NYC
I am pretty sure that this is only true if the brightness slider maxes out at the halfway mark. If the display continues to brighten from the halfway point all the way to max, it’s not overheated and not artificially dimmer to reduce heat.

Not all displays are calibrated exactly the same, and some are just better than others, even from the same manufacturer. I’ve noticed many cool to the touch, morning displayed Apple Store Xs Max’s with varying contrast, brightness and color shifts, all at 100%, auto brightness turned off, and of course with True Tone disabled.

I swapped my Max due to raised sharp edges, and side by side, both from cold boots, the replacement had a way better display. It also had noticeably better contrast, color temperature and was a bit more vibrant and a smidge brighter (not to mention nice and smooth edges, which is why I swapped it). So needless to say, I walked out very happy with my replacement.

Bottom line, if you’re not happy with the display on your $1200 phone, swap it. The variances are not illusion.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. My point is the X series does get capped when it’s too warm. It doesn’t matter where the brightness slider is. The brightness gets capped and you can’t really see the real max brightness until the phone reaches the “safe” temperature. The easiest way to achieve that is by doing something processor intensive on the phone. That way you can experience what I’m talking about. Also possible under the direct sun light, but not as noticeable since it’s outdoors.
The display units have that a lot since they’re constantly charging.
 

davec25

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Sep 26, 2018
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Does anyone have a well-performing new phone without obtrusive tints and / or color shifts? I guess those folks probably aren't on this thread.
 

Frostys

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Sep 24, 2018
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I think I’ve decided, I’m going to return my device with AT&T and repurchase directly from Apple. The color filter distorts other colors too much, and without it the screen has too much shift in color and a warm yellow/Amber in the top/middle and blue on the bottom when looking straight at the screen. Won’t be able to do it until Friday. I’ll keep you guys posted.

Anyone have success exchanging your phone and receiving a better one?
 

Ksanchez2278

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Sep 23, 2018
30
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I think I’ve decided, I’m going to return my device with AT&T and repurchase directly from Apple. The color filter distorts other colors too much, and without it the screen has too much shift in color and a warm yellow/Amber in the top/middle and blue on the bottom when looking straight at the screen. Won’t be able to do it until Friday. I’ll keep you guys posted.

Anyone have success exchanging your phone and receiving a better one?
Good luck
 

Waziti

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2018
9
2
I think I’ve decided, I’m going to return my device with AT&T and repurchase directly from Apple. The color filter distorts other colors too much, and without it the screen has too much shift in color and a warm yellow/Amber in the top/middle and blue on the bottom when looking straight at the screen. Won’t be able to do it until Friday. I’ll keep you guys posted.

Anyone have success exchanging your phone and receiving a better one?
You described what exactly mine looks like. Apparently I can replace mine according to the Apple notes that the live chat lady said that was made the day I left my Apple store. So, I’m getting a call tomorrow from a. Support person who’s on a call my local store and make sure everything goes smoothly with the replacement.
 

memo90061

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Jan 2, 2008
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Los Angeles, CA
Always have this dam issue with every apple product, the XS Max is amazing screen size but I turned of True Tone and max brightness and its so yellow as I slightly turn the screen its so white and blueish why does this always happen it toke me ages to find new X last year that I was happy with, the tint issue is worse than X slightly movement its beautiful look straight at it has such a yellow tone
This is EXACTLY what I noticed too! If you move the phone side to side the whites change from yellowish to bluish. Whites don’t look white. I don’t know what to do. I like everything else about the phone.
 

Eli38

macrumors newbie
Sep 26, 2018
5
3
What's is up with a blue tint on Xs Max when viewing under an angle? Is it considered normal?
 

OTACORB

macrumors 68000
Jun 21, 2009
1,546
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Central, Louisiana
My Max was a bit more of a yellow tent when I first got it. 5 days in it’s looking really nice and very even. I was initially concerned, but it’s a keeper! Thank goodness as I did not want to do a return.
 

TheRealAlex

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Sep 2, 2015
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I just checked my Xs Max against a work Colleague's X, both with true tone off and max brightness. My phone was slightly brighter and the whites were nearly identical, phew.
What’s your serial number starts with an FK or an FF.
I am guessing FK
 

bevsb2

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Does anyone have a well-performing new phone without obtrusive tints and / or color shifts? I guess those folks probably aren't on this thread.

I was lucky and got one that performs well, has an even screen without a yellow tint and has a slight blue color shift only - no pink.
 

AdamA9

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Feb 2, 2010
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Does anyone have a well-performing new phone without obtrusive tints and / or color shifts? I guess those folks probably aren't on this thread.

Colour shifts will happen on any OLED screen. You will always see a slight colour shift when viewing the phone off-axis. It's inherent to OLED technology.

My XS Max is white, no off colour when viewing the phone head on, but I have professionally calibrated OLED TVs in my house so I know what white should look like, rather than what I perceive white to look like.
 
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Donnation

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The whole problem with this thread is that its assuming that everyone's vision is the exact same. I see there are people who are posting "I have a pure white one with no color shift." This then leads people to believe that a phone like this exists (which it doesn't, because OLED).

But I would be money that if the people who had the phone showed it to 10 different people in this thread that many of them would say there is a color shift, while some would say there isn't. The hunt for this perfect screen is ridiculous.
 
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Sowelu

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Aug 15, 2008
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. My point is the X series does get capped when it’s too warm. It doesn’t matter where the brightness slider is. The brightness gets capped and you can’t really see the real max brightness until the phone reaches the “safe” temperature. The easiest way to achieve that is by doing something processor intensive on the phone. That way you can experience what I’m talking about. Also possible under the direct sun light, but not as noticeable since it’s outdoors.
The display units have that a lot since they’re constantly charging.

My point is, when an iPhone starts to overheat and reduces the display brightness, the brightness lever in settings will max out brightness at the 50% mark. You’re still able to move the lever to 100%, but there is no difference in brightness from around the halfway mark to maximum when the phone’s display is in overheat mode (not sure what the technical name for this is). This is true for all iPhones and iPads, but the amount of usage/heat to push a device to overheat will vary from device to device, obviously.

It takes quite a bit of heat, CPU activity, sitting out in the sun, etc., for an iPhone to overheat, which isn’t typical with display phones at the Apple Store, but I am sure that it does happen at stores with very heavy traffic.

So with this in mind, when I want to compare screens with display phones, if the brightness lever continues to normally brighten from the 50% level all the way to 100%, I know that the display is not in overheat mode and I can make a fair comparison. So I wouldn't advise anyone to assume that display iPhones have dimmer screens due to heavy usage unless you confirm that it is indeed in overheat mode, and brightness is maxing out at around the halfway mark (and stays put even though you push the lever to max).
 
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Harthag

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Jun 20, 2009
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Does anyone have a well-performing new phone without obtrusive tints and / or color shifts? I guess those folks probably aren't on this thread.
Mine looks comparable to most of the display models I looked at. I can't tell if mine shifts to pink first then blue, but the viewing angles are fantastic on mine and it does appear brighter than most display models. Not sure how annoyed I am. My ideal screen is just some slight blue shift, I can't stand any pink anywhere. My Pixel 2 XL has less color shift, which I still can't believe.
 
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MyMacintosh

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Aug 10, 2012
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This is EXACTLY what I noticed too! If you move the phone side to side the whites change from yellowish to bluish. Whites don’t look white. I don’t know what to do. I like everything else about the phone.

Just return it. I was hesitant too because I hate being a problematic customer but I’m so glad I did. This new one is leagues better. When I tilt off axis it still goes cooler but the warmth when I tilt back on is a lot lighter than my original one to the point it’s almost not noticeable. I’m way happier with this one as it’s manageable.
 

madKIR

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Feb 2, 2010
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My point is, when an iPhone starts to overheat and reduces the display brightness, the brightness lever in settings will max out brightness at the 50% mark. You’re still able to move the lever to 100%, but there is no difference in brightness from around the halfway mark to maximum when the phone’s display is in overheat mode (not sure what the technical name for this is). This is true for all iPhones and iPads, but the amount of usage/heat to push a device to overheat will vary from device to device, obviously.

It takes quite a bit of heat, CPU activity, sitting out in the sun, etc., for an iPhone to overheat, which isn’t typical with display phones at the Apple Store, but I am sure that it does happen at stores with very heavy traffic.

So with this in mind, when I want to compare screens with display phones, if the brightness lever continues to normally brighten from the 50% level all the way to 100%, I know that the display is not in overheat mode and I can make a fair comparison. So I wouldn't advise anyone to assume that display iPhones have dimmer screens due to heavy usage unless you confirm that it is indeed in overheat mode, and brightness is maxing out at around the halfway mark (and stays put even though you push the lever to max).
I see what you mean. However, what I’ve noticed sometimes when it’s in this “safe dim” mode, the slider is at max you can’t really adjust brightness anymore until the phone is cooled down.
 

Waziti

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2018
9
2
Just return it. I was hesitant too because I hate being a problematic customer but I’m so glad I did. This new one is leagues better. When I tilt off axis it still goes cooler but the warmth when I tilt back on is a lot lighter than my original one to the point it’s almost not noticeable. I’m way happier with this one as it’s manageable.
I’m worried if I return this that the one I get could be worse. But I’d be getting it from my apple store and not the TMobile store I originally got it at.
 

lancastor

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Jun 25, 2011
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I think there is only one chance to get rid off pixel shifting: iPhone XR with LCD.

I‘m hopefully awaiting the first reviews.

But I think the display of the XR is much beztee then the horrible OLED crap in all X and XS models.
 

rdillon2008

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Aug 23, 2018
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Bahamas
I tried everything last night to look for a pink tint but I do not see any. I am now using true tone and it is fine. I guess there are some defective units out there. I guess i can leave this thread now because I am not facing these issues.
 
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davec25

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Sep 26, 2018
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My ideal screen is just some slight blue shift, I can't stand any pink anywhere.

^ this is all I want. The in between pink shift makes the multiple shifts too frequent, every time I slightly move my phone it is a different color. I'm just nervous that if I exchange it I will get a less desirable screen.
 
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